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    Eselsbrücke

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    I know what Eselsbrücken means, but what's a good translation for the word Eselbrücken itself... or if not an exact translation, a word or phrase which corresponds to it?

    Mnemonic, memory aid, aide memoire, ....? I see the phrase "memory hook" in LEO, but it's not familiar to me - maybe it's more common in BE.

    Anything more colorful?

    (No one would say donkey bridge or jackass bridge, or at least no one would know what it means. And no one would say ass bridge because for the word ass, the donkey meaning has pretty much been pushed aside by the semi-vulgar meaning "bottom" (Arsch).)

    Author eric (new york) (63613) 08 Jun 07, 09:17
    Ergebnisse aus dem Wörterbuch
    mnemonicdie Eselsbrücke  pl.: die Eselsbrücken
    cribdie Eselsbrücke  pl.: die Eselsbrücken
    memory hookdie Eselsbrücke  pl.: die Eselsbrücken
    mnemonic trickdie Eselsbrücke  pl.: die Eselsbrücken
    mnemonic rhymedie Eselsbrücke  pl.: die Eselsbrücken [fig.]
    Suggestionmemory hook
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    habe ich mal so gehört
    #1AuthorMarki08 Jun 07, 09:23
    SuggestionMnemonic
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    That's what wikipedia says...
    #2AuthorLullamaus97 (325577) 08 Jun 07, 09:24
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    Eselsbrücke {f}
    jingle
    mnemonic rhyme
    Eselsbrücke {f} [ugs.]
    mnemonic
    device to aid memory
    #3Author AMS (247184) 08 Jun 07, 09:27
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    Eric, bei einigen der archivierten Diskussionen zum Thema "Eselsbrücke" ging es um die Übersetzung - Hast Du da mal geschaut?
    #4AuthorMerl08 Jun 07, 09:28
    Suggestionmnemonic aid; mnemotechnics
    #5AuthorDer coole René08 Jun 07, 09:28
    Suggestionmnemonic
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    At uni they used the term "mnemonic" when talking about teaching methods
    #6Authormelissoula (331518) 08 Jun 07, 09:29
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    Merl, welche der "archivierten Diskussionen" - ich hab keine einzige in der Forumssuche gefunden - obwohl ich 150%ig weiß, daß es welche gibt ...
    #7AuthorBacon [de] (264333) 08 Jun 07, 09:29
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    @eric - Perhaps: something that jogs/triggers your memory.
    #8Author Carly-AE (237428) 08 Jun 07, 09:34
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    @Bacon: Das ist verrückt! Die Forumsuche findet die Eselsbrücken nur, wenn man nach "Esel" sucht.

    Sucht man nach "Esels", kommen nur noch 4 Fäden zu Eselsmilch, Eselsdistel Eselshaut u. Eselsgebrüll
    Wenn weitere Buchstaben dazu kommen ("Eselsb" etc.), findet die Suche rein gar nix mehr.
    *augenroll*
    #9AuthorMerl08 Jun 07, 09:45
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    #10AuthorMerl (235685) 08 Jun 07, 09:53
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    Thanks to all for the suggestions and explanations.

    Here's a follow-up question. I'm still confused. Even in German, what does the image or metaphor "ass's bridge" mean? Why would a memory aid be called "ass's bridge"? How does a donkey crossing a bridge suggest an aid for the memory?

    Thanks.
    #11Author eric (new york) (63613) 09 Jun 07, 06:10
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    AFAIK it's from the Latin, pons asinorum. But where that comes from, well, you can Google as well as I can. I assume dim schoolboys must have been called donkeys in Euclid's day. (-:

    The only reasonable English translation I know of is just 'mnemonic,' even though the diction levels don't quite match.
    #12Author hm -- us (236141) 09 Jun 07, 06:18
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    Esel sind sehr wasserscheu und weigern sich beharrlich, auch kleinste Wasserläufe zu durchwaten, auch wenn sie diese physisch leicht bewältigen könnten („sturer Esel“). Daher baute man ihnen in Furten kleine Brücken, die sogenannten „Eselsbrücken“.

    Analog dazu ist eine sprichwörtliche Eselsbrücke ein Umweg oder besonderer Aufwand, der dennoch schneller, oder überhaupt erst, zum Ziel führt.

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    Good morning, Eric.

    The above definition is from Wikipedia, but my Brockhaus has it as well.

    Donkeys hate to wade through water, so little bridges were built for them
    #13Author penguin (236245) 09 Jun 07, 06:20
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    That is, I've never heard of 'memory hook' at all, 'aide-memoire' I thought was more like a notebook or a written note, and 'memory aid' strikes me as more an explanation than a translation.
    #14Author hm -- us (236141) 09 Jun 07, 06:23
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    hm -- us: I've just looked up pons asinorum. Here's one explanation: http://planetmath.org/encyclopedia/PonsAsinor... . Literally translated, it's the same as Eselsbrücke. However, the meaning really doesn't match.
    #15Author eric (new york) (63613) 22 Jun 07, 19:34
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    I always thought you call it crib in BE.
    #16AuthorSteffB (242743) 22 Jun 07, 21:06
    Suggestionmnemonic device
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    here's a mnemonic device to help you remember the colors of the rainbow: Roy G. Biv (red orange yellow green blue indigo violet)
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    just calling it a 'mnemonic' sounds incomplete to me.
    #17Authormkh1322 Jun 07, 21:12
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    We were taught in school that only 'Esel' need these bridges, pupils who are more clever don't. Therefore they are called 'Eselsbrücken'.
    Just my 2 cents'
    #18AuthorMiM (339570) 22 Jun 07, 21:40
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    Relatives from London
    #19Author Alexia_Gamperl (737393) 20 Oct 10, 12:27
     
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