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    impressive

    Kommentar
    Siehe auch: impressive oder impressing?

    In oben genanntem Faden heißt es (bekanntlich), dass das deutsche Adjektiv 'beeindruckend' gewöhnlich mit 'impressive' übersetzt wird. Der letzte User hat eingeräumt, dass 'impressing' (Partizip) in manchen Kontexten auch verwendet werden kann. Wer kann Beispiele nennen?

    Danke!
    Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 01 Apr. 14, 12:22
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    Moment - der letzte User im Faden hat behauptet, 'impressing' sei ein VERB. Genau genommen ist es ein PARTIZIP.

    Es geht darum: Kann ich das Partizip 'impressing' in manchen Fällen wie ein Adjektiv verwenden und wenn ja, dann wann bzw. wie? (Damit meine ich jetzt keine Verlaufsform wie 'she/ he is impressing us with her/ his ability to...')
    #1Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 01 Apr. 14, 12:34
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    "Impressing is not right. It must be used with a direct object (meaning the verb has to be done TO something.)
    Example: This concert is impressing me. (I am the direct object.)
    Another example (past tense): The concert was impressing me.

    Impressive, on the other hand, can be used to describe something in progress OR in the past. It doesn't require a direct object.
    Example: This concert is impressive. (Notice that there is no direct object; the concert isn't impressing anyone in particular.)
    Another Example (past tense): That concert was impressive."


    Source: http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=163...
    #2Verfasser Himalia (970475) 01 Apr. 14, 12:35
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    Danke, Himalia. Wahrscheinlich hast du getippt, während ich meine Anfrage modifiziert habe.
    Die Frage lautet, ob 'impressing' auch als Adjektiv verwendet werden kann, oder ob es IMMER nur als Partizip wie in deinen Konzert-Beispielen verwendet werden kann/ darf. Falls nein, wäre ich für entsprechende Beispiele dankbar.

    P.S.:
    Bin mal für ein paar Stunden weg.
    #3Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 01 Apr. 14, 12:39
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    I'm not sure I've understood, but if you're asking whether one can say for instance
    *That concert was impressing, or *That was an impressing concert, then, no, you can't.
    #4Verfasser amw (532814) 01 Apr. 14, 15:10
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    Amw, es tut mir leid, dass meine Anfrage aufgrund von Zeitdruck verwirrend bzw. ungenau ausgefallen ist. Ich denke, du hast mich richtig verstanden - das present participle von 'to impress' kann also nicht adjektivisch verwendet werden.

    => Was man z.B. mit dem Verb 'to bore' anstellen kann, ist mit 'to impress' nur eingeschränkt möglich.
    Beispiel:
    'to bore'
    a) The concert is boring. (boring: adj.)
    b) The concert is boring me. (boring: present participle)
    c) I'm bored (by the concert). (bored: past participle)
    => Verwendung a) mit 'to impress' nicht möglich. (Genau dies war höchstwahrscheinlich mit der letzten Antwort in obigem Faden gemeint.)
    #5Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 01 Apr. 14, 16:32
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    There are certain contexts or situations where "impressing" is indeed viable and used, such as in a headline, or incorporated in a certain writing style. Examples:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/nationals...
    Blake Treinen impressing in Nationals camp

    http://www.lazygamer.net/video/the-divisions-...
    The Division’s “Snowdrop engine” keeps impressing

    http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=2014...
    Backstop Plawecki impressing with Mets

    Having said that, I probably wouldn't use it in "normal" writing. :-)
    #6Verfasser dude (253248) 01 Apr. 14, 18:34
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    Re #6

    dude's second example is (I fear) a red herring, it's not an adjective.

    The other two are relevant, because in both cases you could substitute 'impressive'. But given that dude thinks this is not 'normal' writing, I think we can safely advise learners not to do this.
    #7Verfasser escoville (237761) 02 Apr. 14, 08:10
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    Re #6.

    Though this will be obvious to some, it might nevertheless be helpful to cookie.

    The terse sentences in #6 look odd because they are truncated. Each of them would be fine if (appropriately) completed:


    Blake Treinen is impressing observers in Nationals camp.

    The Division’s “Snowdrop engine” keeps impressing us.

    Backstop Plawecki was impressing coaches by his play with the Mets.

     
    I would not object to such usage at all.
    #8VerfasserHappyWarrior (964133) 02 Apr. 14, 17:13
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    @escoville: I don't think #2 was a red herring at all since "impressing" is used intransitively here and not transitively, they way it would normally be used: to impress someone.

    @HappyWarrior: I'm not sure what you are trying to say. They are headlines, which I have pointed out, and as such meant to be truncated. I don't think there's any need to "appropriately complete" them. German headlines are frequently no different, and I think cookie crumbler is smart enough to realize that.

    Edit: having said that, I almost forgot to mention that M-W does indeed list an intransitive entry for "impress" as well:

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/impress
    intransitive verb
    : to produce an impression

    But I also think that's a fairly rare usage.
    #9Verfasser dude (253248) 02 Apr. 14, 17:44
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    dude, I'm saying there need be nothing wrong with using "impressing"--which is in contrast to what you apparently meant when you wrote, "Having said that, I probably wouldn't use it in 'normal' writing."
    #10VerfasserHappyWarrior (964133) 02 Apr. 14, 17:55
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    so how would you use "impressing" then intransitively in "normal" (and non-headline or truncated) writing?
    #11Verfasser dude (253248) 02 Apr. 14, 17:56
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    The sentences in #8 stand on their own, without reference to headline-writing.
    #12VerfasserHappyWarrior (964133) 02 Apr. 14, 18:04
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    No, they don't. They are headlines and recognizable as such. No one (except maybe you) would write an article/essay/book this way. IMO.
    #13Verfasser dude (253248) 02 Apr. 14, 18:06
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    An entire book that way? Who's talking about an entire book? But sentences like those of #8 would be appropriate in any book that I can presently imagine.
    #14VerfasserHappyWarrior (964133) 02 Apr. 14, 18:10
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    My bad, I overlooked the "#8" in your post. But that's not even the point since the OP is talking about "impressing" all by itself and without any object. You are moving the goalposts in #8. I was actually referring to #6.
    #15Verfasser dude (253248) 02 Apr. 14, 18:13
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    Hi!

    Ich würde sogar noch weiter als escoville gehen, indem ich behaupte, dass es sich in #6 bei keinem der Beispiele um ein Adjektiv handelt und danach hatte ich ursprünglich gesucht. Es tut mir leid, dass dies nicht klar aus meiner ursprünglichen Anfrage hervorging.

    Jedenfalls vielen Dank, dass ihr meinetwegen einen 'happy war' geführt habt. Das hat mich auf alle Fälle weitergebracht.
    #16Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 02 Apr. 14, 19:25
     
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