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Continent cut off by Hard Brexit

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UK newspapers today have relayed the Chancellor of the Exchequer's warning that Europe may be isolated if a Hard Brexit cannot be avoided ;>(
Eg (Daily Telegraph): Philip Hammond has said it is "theoretically conceivable" that all flights between the EU and the UK could be suspended on the day Britain leaves the EU. The Chancellor said that while highly unlikely there is a possibility that if the UK leaves without a deal there could be no "air traffic" on March 29, 2019.

AuthorEcgberht (469528) 12 Oct 17, 00:16
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Die Frage ist, wer da mehr isoliert ist und große Nachteile hat: EU oder UK?
Britische Fluggesellschaften wie easyjet oder oder BA haben sich schon Ausweichgesellschaften auf dem Kontinent aufgebaut, damit sie weiterhin unter EU-Status fliegen können.
#1Authordrkimble (463961) 12 Oct 17, 07:37
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Ich mag britischen Humor. :-)
#2AuthorMasu (613197) 12 Oct 17, 07:45
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»Nebel im Ärmelkanal – der Kontinent ist abgeschnitten.«
#3Authorjo-SR (238182) 12 Oct 17, 08:07
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Deswegen haben wir ja auch den Tunnel unter dem Ärmelkanal verhindert. Sonst hätte auf dem Kontinent der Linksverkehr eingeführt werden müssen.

Wenn das ganze nicht so traurig wäre, könnte man drüber lachen.
#4AuthorB.L.Z. Bubb (601295) 12 Oct 17, 09:04
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Da müssen die Briten, die am Mittelmeer überwintern, wohl ein paar Jahre dort bleiben...
#5Authorunnaix (769252) 12 Oct 17, 11:54
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Soll'n se eben loofen un' schwümm ...
#6AuthorB.L.Z. Bubb (601295) 12 Oct 17, 11:57
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For a fairly clear exposition, see:


The problem is that the Brexiteers think that by leaving the EU, we will just return to the status quo ante of 1972. Unlike them, the world has moved on. Not least the world of aviation.
#7Authorescoville (237761) 12 Oct 17, 13:09
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Brexiteers think that by leaving the EU, we will just return to the status quo ante of 1972.

Mir drängt sich der Eindruck auf, daß eine Auferstehung des 19. Jahrhunderts  erwartet wird.
#8Authorjo-SR (238182) 12 Oct 17, 13:28
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Kriegen wir dann Sansibar zurück?

Und tschüß, Helgoland?!
#9Authormbshu (874725) 13 Oct 17, 14:52
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Wieso zurück? Wir haben's ja nie gehabt: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertrag_zwische...
#10AuthorJanZ (805098) 13 Oct 17, 15:01
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Dann gibt es endlich wieder Himmel ohne Kondensstreifen!
#11AuthorCuauhtlehuanitzin (1009442) 15 Oct 17, 11:13
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@ #8

Emotionally there's certainly a nostalgia for the 19th century. But no one honestly thinks that is a realistic prospect. However, I really do think that many Brexiteers sincerely believe that by withdrawing from the EU, the UK is simply reverting to the pre-1972 situation. They say: 'Why negotiate? Why can't we just leave?' One reason (one of many) is that there could no longer be any flights into or out of the UK. The open-skies agreement (like much else) is with the EU as a signatory, not the UK*. The pre-1972 situation simply doesn't exist any longer and cannot be recreated any more than the pre-1914 situation.

*the EU Withdrawal Bill provides for the incorporation of EU law into UK law. But international treaties cannot be unilaterally incorporated into a single country's law. And the EU is the signatory to dozens of international treaties.
#12Authorescoville (237761) 15 Oct 17, 13:08
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What? The mainland being "cut off" from an island? I always thought it was the other way around. What's that German saying again...anders rum wird ein Schuh daraus... ;-)
#13Authorwupper (354075) 15 Oct 17, 13:21
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#4: Tunnel unter dem Ärmelkanal verhindert? Durch den bin ich aber doch vergangenes Jahr gefahren und will das im Dezember wieder tun? Aber ja, wenigstens Autoverkehr ist nicht möglich.

#13: Wupper, ähm ... Die Ironie verstehst du aber schon, oder?
#14AuthorRaudona (255425) 15 Oct 17, 17:07
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Noch kannst Du durch den Tunnel ... aber wenn es mit dem Brexit soweit ist, dann wird nicht nur der Nebel zur Dauereinrichtung über dem Kanal ... dann wird auch den Zügen untendrunter ganz einfach der Strom abgeschaltet ... und schon ist Good Old Europe von der Außenwelt komplett abgeschnitten ...
#15Authorno me bré (700807) 15 Oct 17, 17:18
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@13

The allusion is to an alleged headline in the 1950s: 'Fog in Channel; continent cut off'. Whether this headline ever appeared, I don't know. But it is much quoted whenever the question of British insularity crops up.
#16Authorescoville (237761) 15 Oct 17, 18:01
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'Fog in Channel - Continent Cut Off' is supposed once to have appeared as a headline in The Times. See here for details:

https://www.quora.com/Is-the-famous-headline-...
#17Authoramw (532814) 15 Oct 17, 19:45
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