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    Land und Leute

    Erinnerungen an den Zakład Ubezpieczen Spolecznych

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    Erinnerungen an den Zakład Ubezpieczen Spolecznych

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    Guten Tag. Ich kann leider gar kein Polnisch, bin aber über diese amerikanische Zeitungskolumne gestolpert und dachte, es könnte jemand von euch interessieren. (-:

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    Memories of a Social Security Trip to Poland ...
    Sometime in early 1994, while I was working at the SSA's headquarters in Baltimore, Maryland, where I was the chief editor of all the publications the agency produced for the public, I was asked to make a presentation to a group of visiting Social Security officials from Poland. ...
    Almost every country on the planet has a social insurance system in place for its citizens. And many of those countries, especially in Europe, had such programs long before we ever got around to setting up our Social Security system in 1935. In fact, the first Polish Social Security laws were established in 1927. ...
    When lunchtime rolled around, I got to chatting with one of the Polish visitors. On a whim, I asked him if he'd like to take a drive to see the "Little Poland" neighborhood of Baltimore. ...
    The first place that caught our eye was a small neighborhood meat market. We went in.
    The butcher and my Polish Social Security official (his name was Jan) were talking to each other in Polish. After a minute or two, they were hugging each other and crying. It was very emotional. Jan explained to me that it turned out both of them came from the same small town in Poland — and they had so many memories to share. (I mean, how serendipitous was that?)
    Well, the butcher closed up the shop and got in my car with Jan and me and took us on a tour of the Little Poland area. We stopped at a couple homes, a Polish church and a few other small businesses. And most memorably, we ended up at the neighborhood meeting place — a Polish bar. Jan and all his newfound friends started doing some serious drinking of Polish vodka!
    Jan was having a really good time. I kept telling him that we had to get back to the Social Security headquarters complex and to our meetings. But Jan and his friends just kept on drinking and talking (all in Polish) and hugging each other. Eventually, about 3 p.m. or so, I finally talked a rather tipsy Jan into going back to work.
    When we got there, I was pulled aside by some of my superiors and got chewed out. "Where the heck were you?" they asked. "Do you know who you were with?" I had just assumed Jan was some midlevel management type like me. But it turns out he was the head of the Polish Social Security system, and actually was a top official in the Polish government. And I brought him back to the conference drunk!
    Long story short, for a while, I thought I was going to be in some serious trouble. But a few months later, the SSA got an invitation from the Polish government to send a representative to Poland to conduct training. Because of my friendship with Jan, they specifically asked for me. So, my trip to Poland came about all because I took a guy out drinking in Baltimore!
    Anyway, a few months later I was in a small town outside of Warsaw at a Zakład Ubezpieczen Spolecznych training facility. ZUS is the name of their Social Security agency. I was there to teach their public affairs officials about how we promoted our Social Security system to American citizens. This was new stuff to ZUS staff because Poland was just coming out from under decades of Soviet domination. They had to teach Polish citizens how their recently revamped social insurance system would work. ...
    ... because at the time, the Polish banking system was essentially non-existent, Polish seniors didn't get checks. They got cash. So once each month, Polish mail carriers, with armed guards accompanying them, would walk around cities and towns throughout Poland with literally trillions of złoty notes in their mailbags. They would knock on doors and hand seniors their ZUS benefits in cash! I'm sure that today, all these decades later, the Polish economy is back to normal and Polish seniors probably get their ZUS benefits via direct deposit just as we get Social Security benefits in our country.

    Tom Margenau worked for 32 years in a variety of positions for the Social Security Administration before retiring in 2005. For many years, he was the director of SSA's public information office at the agency’s headquarters in Baltimore, Md.
    thomas.margenau (at) comcast.net
    https://www.creators.com/read/your-social-sec...

    Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 06 Dez. 21, 09:30
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    Ich hab' dazu noch das hier auf Polnisch und auf Deutsch gefunden :


    https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zak%C5%82ad_Ube...

     Zakład Ubezpieczeń Społecznych (ZUS) – państwowa jednostka organizacyjna posiadająca osobowość prawną realizująca zadania z zakresu ubezpieczeń społecznych w Polsce. Jest jednostką sektora finansów publicznych.

    Zakres działania, zadania i funkcjonowanie Zakładu Ubezpieczeń Społecznych określają art. 66-72 ustawy z dnia 13 października 1998 roku o systemie ubezpieczeń społecznych (Dz.U. z 2021 r. poz. 423) oraz statut ZUS (Dz.U. z 2011 r. nr 18, poz. 93). ...


    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zak%C5%82ad_Ube...

     Zakład Ubezpieczeń Społecznych (ZUS; deutsch Soziale Versicherungsanstalt[1]) ist die staatliche Sozialversicherung in Polen mit 45.600 Beschäftigten, die die Beiträge für Sozial- und Krankenversicherung von 15 Mio. Arbeitnehmern (Stand: August 2013) sammelt und Leistungen auszahlt, z. B. für Rente, Berufsunfall, Krankheit, Mutterschaft und Tod. ...


    #1Verfasser no me bré (700807) 07 Dez. 21, 17:57
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    Dass die Rentner ihre Bezüge bar ausgezahlt bekommen haben hatte nichts mit einem Zusammenbruch des Bankensystems zu tun. Mindestens bis in die Mitte der 90er Jahre war in Polen es auch ganz normal, dass sich Angestellte am Monatsende in einer Schlange an der Betriebskasse angestellt haben, um sich ihr Gehalt abzuholen. Geld wurde dann entweder bar gehalten oder was übrig blieb auf ein Sparbuch eingezahlt. Girokonten und Schecks waren eher unbekannt.

    Übrigens erst in diesem Jahr hat die PiS-Regierung die Rentner zu unbaren Zahlungen, sprich zur Eröffnung eines Bankkontos gezwungen.

    #2Verfasser Wilder Verband (1086561) 07 Dez. 21, 20:20
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    Danke sehr für die Rückmeldung. Ich wusste nicht mal, wieviel Aktivität es im polnischen Forum gibt. (-:

    Danke auch für die Information. Der Kolumnist hat anscheinend keinen Kontakt mehr zu irgendjemand in Polen und hat wohl nur spekuliert.

    In der Kolumne heißt es, er schreibe an seinen Lebenserinnerungen, für seine Kinder und Enkel.

    #3Verfasser hm -- us (236141)  08 Dez. 21, 04:32
     
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