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    Sprichwort zu "no apples without biter sorrel"

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    Sprichwort zu "no apples without biter sorrel"

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    Gibst es ein englisches Sprichwort, welches ausdrückt dass jedes Ding auch sein schlechtes hat so wie "every cloud has a silver line" nur umgekehrt???
    VerfasserLora09 Sep. 06, 19:07
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    You mean every cloud has a silver lining?

    I'm stumped at the moment; maybe: Pride comes before a fall, though I don't think that's quite what you mean.
    #1VerfasserThinking09 Sep. 06, 19:15
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    No I think she means something else....
    #2VerfasserMadonna09 Sep. 06, 19:36
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    How about "You can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs."?

    Or what is the relationship between the apples and the (bitter?) sorrel? That you can't have something good (apples) without also accepting something bad?
    #3Verfassergirly-girl<us>09 Sep. 06, 20:42
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    Yes, you're right, girly-girl!
    #4VerfasserLora09 Sep. 06, 20:52
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    Hat noch jemand eine Idee???
    #5VerfasserLora10 Sep. 06, 12:27
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    Was ist mit The brighter the light, the deeper the shadow ?
    sagt ein bisschen mehr als nur alles Gute hat seinen Haken, also kommts auf den Kontext an, ob es passt.
    #6Verfasserlisbet10 Sep. 06, 13:05
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    you have to take the bad with the good. Not the same as "there is no silver lining without a cloud."
    #7VerfasserSelkie 10 Sep. 06, 13:07
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    There are two that I can think of: "You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs", as already mentioned, and "You have to take the rough with the smooth", which is perhaps what Selkie was thinking of.
    #8VerfasserJoe W11 Sep. 06, 09:17
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    vielleicht ein bisschen weit weg: with every wish, there comes a curse
    #9VerfasserMrMojo11 Sep. 06, 09:39
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    I remember my Ma once getting a piece of turf from Mike MacTavish from across the road, because my Dad had been drinking in Portree and apparently forgot to buy some turf for the oven. My Ma was real grateful, and Mike just said: "It's alright, bonny lass!", but later he was wanting some eggs, and my Ma only had two, but he demanded them nevertheless. That's when my Ma told me:
    "Gregg, even a golden babygoat will have to shite!"

    I think that fits quite well for what you're looking for.

    By the way, I also like "There's no such thing as a free meal!"
    #10VerfasserGregg11 Sep. 06, 09:49
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    Gregg, you are making these up, aren't you?
    #11Verfassertanja111 Sep. 06, 10:06
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    @tanja1: I can confirm "There's no such thing as a free meal!", but I am not sure that it fits what Lora is looking for.
    The babygoat thing just sounds plain weird to me...
    #12Verfasser.BE Native11 Sep. 06, 10:17
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    Shouldn't it be "there's no such thing as a free lunch"? That expression was coined or at least popularised by Milton Friedman.

    http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q="there's+no+such+thing+as+a+free+lunch"&meta=
    #13VerfasserJalapeno11 Sep. 06, 10:20
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    Ach ja, und das trifft meiner Meinung nach nicht genau, was Lora sucht, sondern sagt eher es, dass nichts umsonst ist. Es gibt keine Geschenke ...
    #14VerfasserJalapeno11 Sep. 06, 10:22
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    BE native, I was referring to the golden goat, not the free lunch. Gregg always comes up with highly amusing tales from Ochtermochty or whatever the tiny Scottish village is that he comes from, and things the residents thereof would say.
    #15Verfassertanja111 Sep. 06, 10:26
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    @tanja1: It's "Lauhbin", my dear. And no, I'm not making these up. I just like to relay to the world what people in wee Scottish villages tend to say. Whether you want to use these phrases then is totally up to you.
    #16VerfasserGregg11 Sep. 06, 10:36
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    Gregg, hey, no offence. And please do keep them coming, genuine or made up, they're all priceless. Linguistic Four Yorkshiremen, if the metaphor isn't too mixed.
    OT: is Laubhin the mythical place where "och aye the noo" originates? The phrase that all non-Scots come up with when pushed to say something Scottish and that nobody in Scotland ever seems to say?
    #17Verfassertanja111 Sep. 06, 10:43
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    @tanja1: As you said "Gregg, you are making THESE up, aren't you? " I assumed you were referring to both of Gregg's ...uh... suggestions. Sorry, I shall say no more.
    #18Verfasser.BE Native 11 Sep. 06, 10:47
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    @tanja1: Well, I'm glad my linguistic heritage amuses you so. And sorry, I'm not familiar with the phrase you mentioned. Lauhbin's not a mythical place really, it's just really, really tiny!
    #19VerfasserGregg11 Sep. 06, 10:58
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    How about "No rose without a thorn" ?
    #20Verfasserargus11 Sep. 06, 15:16
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    To take the bitter with the sweet.
    #21Verfasserjill12 Sep. 06, 06:43
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    @ Lora

    I guess argus comes the closest to what you are looking for. Its like every basket has a bad apple, and you don't know which is it. So have to buy the entire basket!
    #22Verfasserminu12 Sep. 06, 20:28
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    Every rose has it's thorn?
    #23VerfasserLara Chu (AmE)12 Sep. 06, 20:46
     
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