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    Crossover Chat 157

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    This isn't just another chat room. We're here to improve our language skills, German or English, and to encourage a spirit of community. Everyone is welcome who shares those aims.

    In the immortal words of our founder, odondon irl:
    «ein Faden, in dem Deutschsprechende auf Englisch und Englischsprechende auf Deutsch schreiben können, um zu üben, um Korrekturen zu ergattern, um des Spaßes Willen.»

    Sorry, no Hochlichter.

    We welcome the new snails RMA (UK), Flowerstar, Silvapunkt and paper-clip.

    The last CC is here
    Verfasser bluesky (236159) 22 Mai 08, 22:52
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    Thank you for this nice new snailshell, bluesky!
    I take this occasion to wish everyone Shubh ratri! Sleep well!
    #1Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 22 Mai 08, 23:01
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    Hello! Still a little bit early to sleep.
    #2Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 22 Mai 08, 23:25
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    Thank you bluesky!
    Beautiful weather this morning, so here is judex' Morgenlied:



    Oh, what a beautiful mornin'


    There's a bright golden haze on the meadow,
    There's a bright golden haze on the meadow,
    The corn is as high as an elephant's eye,
    An' it looks like it's climbin' clear up to the sky.

    Oh, what a beautiful mornin',
    Oh, what a beautiful day.
    I got a beautiful feelin'
    Ev'rything's goin' my way.

    All the cattle are standin' like statues,
    All the cattle are standin' like statues,
    They don't turn their heads as they see me ride by,
    But a little brown mav'rick is winkin' her eye.

    Oh, what a beautiful mornin',
    Oh, what a beautiful day.
    I got a beautiful feelin'
    Ev'rything's goin' my way.

    All the sounds of the earth are like music,
    All the sounds of the earth are like music,
    The breeze is so busy it don't miss a tree,
    And a ol' weepin' willer is laughin' at me!

    Oh, what a beautiful mornin',
    Oh, what a beautiful day,
    I got a beautiful feelin'
    Ev'rything's goin' my way.
    Oh, what a beautiful day.



    Lyrics by OSCAR HAMMERSTEIN II
    Music by RICHARD RODGERS
    #3Verfasser judex (239096) 23 Mai 08, 07:44
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    Hi judex!
    Thanks for the morning song - I'm just listening to a YouTube version - very nice indeed.
    When the temperature rises a little more, it will be a very nice day indeed.
    #4Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 23 Mai 08, 07:57
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    Good morning everyone!

    I hope all of you who live in the 'good' federal states had a nice Corpus Christi holiday?

    We went on a bicycle tour yesterday so today I have sore muscles all over my body and I can bearly sit. I hope the day goes past very quickly.

    What did you all do on the holiday yesterday?

    Have a nice bridge day...
    #5VerfasserBronchipret (236310) 23 Mai 08, 08:51
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    *slimingthrough* What a nice new shell.

    Bronchi, I went climbing at Landschaftspark Duisburg: They've built a climbing park in the old coal scuttles (after having cleaned them a bit, I suppose), it's nearly as good as rocks. Now I suffer from thin skin on my fingertips, because the concrete is quite rough there... not a good day for typing, though.
    #6Verfasser tigger (236106) 23 Mai 08, 12:27
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    Hello there, to all those I've already met, and to those I haven't yet been talking to; and thanks for the thread bricolage, bluesky.

    I just noticed that I don't know whether Fronleichnam is a holiday in Germany, and, since I'm living in a protestant canton, we don't celebrate it here. So, no holiday in sight for a long time, next will be 1st of august in CH.
    But then, there will be the foot championship in June, not quite holiday but a bit of change in the rhythm of the year. People already start getting busy preparing the public viewing areas and roadsigns and all that.

    It is really a lovely day here, it's like work was flowing all by itself; finished my tax declaration and brought it over to the Steuermensch this morning, so I'm in a perfect mood.
    If you are in need of some good humour today, just tell me and I'll post some to download for you.

    tigger: you could type with your whiskers?




    #7VerfasserSilvapunkt (444726) 23 Mai 08, 14:37
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    Oh, that offer came in just the right moment, Silva, I am in terrible need of good mood! Still working my way through this damn Italian book, the only one I could find on my next paper's topic. Takes me about half an hour per page to read, even with the new LEO dictionary's help.

    Embarrassing as it is, I had to think for a moment: What a foot championship? Is this some weird show where they all show their feet, and the most pretty ones get a price? Then I realised you had just left the "ball" out ...

    Bronchi, I did not do much. Actually wanted to get a bit further with my paper, but you know how it is, could not get myself to work. I enjoyed spening a whole day with wi-chan-San, however.
    #8Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 23 Mai 08, 14:56
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    bluesky good houseconstructing job!!

    hm thanks a lot, with such a big snail support I am almost not afraid anymore. (o:

    judex very nice romantic song.

    Bronch no Corpus Christi holiday for us, the protestants and the pagans. )o:

    wupper haven't seen you for a while, everything okay in the capital?

    Hello to all the new snails that slimed in here.
    #9Verfasser Steve53 (329426) 23 Mai 08, 15:07
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    shalom wi-chan
    #10Verfasser Steve53 (329426) 23 Mai 08, 15:10
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    *lol* Oh dear... no, Silvapunkt, whiskers are far too sensible to climb on them. We tend to use the claws... and mine are a bit worn today. *polish*
    #11Verfasser tigger (236106) 23 Mai 08, 15:10
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    @Silvapunkt
    #7
    August ... not august.
    Too important a date for us to write it with a small letter. ;-)
    #12VerfasserWilliB (336037) 23 Mai 08, 15:16
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    *slimes through*

    Tigger, Silviapunkt suggested you could type with your whiskers, not climb with them ;).

    wi-chan, colour me confused - you spent time with yourself in third person honorific? Or is wi-chan-san a Mr. wi-chan?

    Unluckily, there was no (going into 6-th gear :p) Happy Cadaver Day (or Zombie Jesus Day? Oh no, that's Easter) in France, as well ... The next holiday is the 14th July here which feels like ages away. I need to get my friend to visit me before, otherwise I'll die. Okay, no, I won't.

    Another hour and then I'm finally free for this week! And this time I won't take any work home for the weekend.
    #13VerfasserFlowerstar (351182) 23 Mai 08, 15:39
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    *uploading inner sunshine for wi-chan*
    *adding a pinch of whattheheckIdontneedtoknowwhatthatitalianwordmeans*

    Wi-chan, of course it's foot championship, followed by the notorious Miss Toenail contest and Heel Star on Pro7.

    Hello Steve!

    WilliB: Good shot!

    Tigger: I thought of typing. That would require considerably less muscular power than climbing. (Mummy, why is the tiger hanging on the wall over there? - Oh, it is just doing whisker workout.)
    #14VerfasserSilvapunkt (444726) 23 Mai 08, 15:44
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    Strange... I thought of typing, too. Why did I change my imagination and wrote about climbing and whiskers instead?
    Anyway, whiskers are too sensible for typing, too. I don't think I'd get up to 350 characters per minute on whiskers... and then the nose is always im Weg.
    #15Verfasser tigger (236106) 23 Mai 08, 17:52
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    @bluesky: Danke fürs gemütliche Häuschen.

    Danke, judex, fürs Morgenlied. Als ich das erste Mal an der Uni war, spielte ein Radiosender oft frühmorgens um die Zeit, die ich aufwachte, dieses Lied. Damals hörte ich das Lied nicht gern, da es so ausgesprochen glücklich ist und ich ein ziemlicher Morgenmuffel bin. Aber inzwischen bin ich ein bisschen älter geworden (ob es daran liegt?), und wenn ich aufstehe und die erste Tasse Tee ausgetrunken habe und munter werde, singe ich das Lied manchmal Herrn MiMi.

    Auch ich dachte, dass die Schweizer sich auf ein Fußfest schon vorbereiten würden. Ich stellte mir vor, dass sie sich die Fußnägel schön lackierten und Kuhglocken von den Zehenspitzen hingen.

    Happy Corpse Take Day ist hier kein Feiertag, aber ich nehme an, wenn ich noch in einer katholischen Privatschule unterrichten würde, dass ich in die Messe gegangen wäre.

    WilliB outet sich als Fußballfan? Hast du eine Lieblingsmannschaft?

    @tigger: Sind deine Schnurrhaare vernünftig oder empfindlich? Aber ich stimme dir zu, lieber mit den Krallen tippen.

    Korrekturito für wi-chan: Der schönste Fuß bekommt ein prize. Viel Glück mit dem Referat. Ich musste einmal in Deutschland für ein Referat mühsam auf Französisch lesen. Das hat auch lange gedauert. Ich musste extra ein Wörterbuch kaufen (Französisch-Deutsch!).

    *steve wink*
    #16Verfasser Amy-MiMi (236989) 23 Mai 08, 18:03
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    *zu mir* Oh, Tigger und Silvapunkt sind vielleicht da. *heftig wink*

    Heute fängt ein langes Wochenende an. Ich habe mich ausgeschlafen und frühstückte um 11 Uhr! *breit grins*
    #17Verfasser Amy-MiMi (236989) 23 Mai 08, 18:06
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    Danke, Bluesky *kofferauspack*

    @Tigger: "a coal scuttle" ist ein rundlicher Metalleimer, in dem Kohle neben der Feuerstelle oder dem Ofen hält. Entweder haben wir ein Fall von "Help! Someone shrunk our tigger" oder du hast dich in dem Wort vertan ;-)

    Heute - trotz Krankheit - waren wir mit den Kindern kulturell unterwegs. In Ffm gibt es ein tolles Museum mit optischen Illusionen - und wie war die Reaktion zum Schluss? "Gehen wir zu Meggers?" *frust*

    Hi WilliB...lange nicht gelesen aber jetzt hast du noch mehr Schweizer Gesellschaft :-)
    #18Verfasser suziq (315879) 23 Mai 08, 18:34
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    suzi tell me more about Meggers???
    #19Verfasser Steve53 (329426) 23 Mai 08, 18:54
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    @Steve: "Meggers" ist "Teenspeak" für McD :-)
    #20Verfasser suziq (315879) 23 Mai 08, 19:05
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    *waving at Amy-MiMi*
    Amy, WilliB was referring to Swiss Nationalfeiertag on 1st of August, the day we remember the year of 1291, when William Tell stepped very hard on the toes of the Austrian occupying forces. (No offense meant, tigger! Some of our best friends come from Austria.) After that the three core cantons swore an oath to eternally leave their toe nails unpainted.
    But let's skip those Swiss topics before I get seriously silly. Have a nice weekend, Amy!

    (f5)
    hi suziq! Did you fight the germ?
    #21VerfasserSilvapunkt (444726) 23 Mai 08, 19:15
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    @Silvapunkt - Danke für's Nachfragen...ich kämpfe (Dauerkopofschmerzen) noch aber ich kann das Chaos nicht leiden, das dann entsteht, wenn ich aber gar nichts mache. Ausruhen ist nicht wirklich meine Stärke - eher Verdrängung durch anderen Aktivitäten! Aber jetzt zwinge ich mich dazu, mich hinzulegen.
    #22Verfasser suziq (315879) 23 Mai 08, 19:25
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    Silvapunkt: They will never win the foot contest, then, with their unpainted toenails! *gg* You see, your "inner sunshine" has already worked, I am in quite good mood again. Probably because I closed the f***ing book and went swimming with wi-chan-San. And yes, Flower, that is indeed my pseudonym for Mr wi-chan (though I occasionally call him Mr Chan, too).

    Amy: Thanks for your good wishes. It is no presentation, but a paper (the presentation for that seminar I have already done, on more or less none or "improvised" data, but the paper needs a bit more thorough research).
    Your translation of "Fronleichnam" reminds me of my father, who, in his youth, confused people he met on that day by saying "Einen froh'n Leichnam wünsch' ich Ihnen!"

    Meggers? That was "Mäckes" to me at that age! Or is that a regional thing? Does McDonald's have other colloquial names in other regions? The linguist in me awakes ...

    You should really force yourself to get some rest, suzi. The chaos outside is still less bad than the chaos inside you if you don't. Get well soon!
    #23Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 23 Mai 08, 20:22
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    We call it Mäck. (ck something between Mäck and Mägg).
    Toenails is the only place where I'm really creative with nailpolish, because nobody see's it anyway, especially not in winter.

    (wi-chan, you've email.)
    #24Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 23 Mai 08, 20:35
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    @suziq and wi-chan + annexe :-)
    If it is getting warmer next week, how about an evening on our terrace? Not a big thing, just a glass of whatsoever and some dry bread. I am a Strohwitwer :-)
    #25Verfasser judex (239096) 23 Mai 08, 20:44
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    I bet he needs some females to tell him how to use the clothes washer :P
    #26Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 23 Mai 08, 20:48
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    Frailty, thy name is woman :-)
    Snowflake and household? Doesn't that suck ? :-))
    #27Verfasser judex (239096) 23 Mai 08, 20:59
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    Snowflake and household? Doesn't that suck ?
    Depends on what side you are.
    The "Ruum ez sofort dini Büächer us minere Stube!!!" side or the "*dropbook* *dropshoe* *dropanything*" side :D

    And my cooking's not that bad. If you like it salty and strange.

    Frailty, thy name is woman
    It's "Beauty, thy name is woman." :P
    #28Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 23 Mai 08, 21:14
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    Bah, I'm forced to watch "Knanal Fatal" from Bayern.
    That's almost child abuse.
    The only funny thing is their dialect.

    I had better go upstairs and read Kafka.
    #29Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 23 Mai 08, 22:31
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    Kafka, that's child abuse for me. I could never really "gain access" to Kafka, to put it mildly. I always imagined him sitting in his room, writing that stuff and thinking: "Wonder what they will interpret into that rubbish this time!" (Apologies to all Kafka-lovers.)

    Next week sounds good, judex, if the weather is playing along, would be really nice! A shame, though, that you will be a Strohwitwer then, I was so looking forward to getting to know judica at last!

    Seen the mail, Flöckeli, thanks!
    #30Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 23 Mai 08, 23:34
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    @Steve53: Alles paletti! Mai ist vielleicht der schönste Monat. Alles blüht. Sogar die hässlichen Ecken sehen schön aus. ;-)

    @Goldammer: Mohrli ist einfach ein hochintelligenter Kater. Er weiß wenn Herrchen bzw. Frauchen verreist ist, und sucht sich das Abenteuer woanders. Wenn ihr wieder da seid, taucht er brav wieder auf. Sonst wär es ihm wahrscheinlich zu langweilig.

    *amyundsuziqzuwink*

    @judex: Das Morgenlied (von gestern) kenne ich gut. Bin mit den Herrn Rogers und Hammerstein groß geworden. ;-)
    #31Verfasser wupper (354075) 24 Mai 08, 01:23
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    Quick hello from the "Ruhr"! It's well past my bed-time. Hence, just a quick 'hello' and bye-bye.
    #32Verfasser Wolfman (236211) 24 Mai 08, 01:32
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    mini-correcturito for wupper:
    bin mit den Herren Rogers und Hammerstein...

    You are quite right about Mohrli, and as I said, he only mixes in the best society: the area where he roamed about is a very posh one here in town. I am quite glad that he came back by himself, so I know he knows the way back home, and I know he wants to be here when we are.

    @Wolfman
    Hi nightwolf - how's hay fever these days? I hope you are coping ok.
    #33Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 24 Mai 08, 10:17
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    Argh. I thought about "sensible" and "sensitive" and chose the wrong one...
    And then I looked up "Kohlenschütte" in LEO. I'm quite disappointed that the lion just sells Kohleneimer. So how would you call the area for coal storing in a big steel factory?
    #34Verfasser tigger (236106) 24 Mai 08, 13:12
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    suziq and wi chan have mail!
    #35Verfasser judex (239096) 24 Mai 08, 13:30
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    suziq and wi chan have mail!
    Neid!
    #36Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 24 Mai 08, 13:52
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    @Goldammer: Soll ich dir eine E-Mail schicken, oder willst du nur eine von dem Herrn Richter erhalten?

    @tigger: So what would you call the area for coal storing in a big steel factory? Ähm. Ich würde einen großen Haufen Kohle sagen. Aber Herr MiMi schlägt "coal yard" vor. Er kennt sich ein bisschen besser in Fabriken aus als ich.

    *wupper wink* Du warst ein Star in einem Gedicht das ich schrieb. Es fing mit "wupper war in Kuddeldaddeldu an"

    Was lest ihr so? Ich lese gerade Fahrenheit 451. Ich weiß nicht, ob ich es in der Schule gelesen habe und prompt vergessen, oder ob das eine echte Wissenslücke ist. Der Roman wird oft in der High School gelesen, also hole ich das nach.

    @wi-chan: Ich dachte, ein Referat könnte sowohl schriftlich als mündlich sein? *verwirrt sei* Wie würdest du dein Paper auf Deutsch nennen?

    #37Verfasser Amy-MiMi (236989) 24 Mai 08, 17:10
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    I would call my research paper a "Hausarbeit". It ocasionally causes confusion with the chores, which I also call "Hausarbeit". So it can happen that I neglect my Hausarbeit because of my Hausarbeit, and still nobody will know if I spent the day at my desk or in the kitchen.

    Apart from my Italian book, I just started reading "Tender Bar", which has been lying around here for some time, hidden under large piles of other books. I finished your book lately, Suzi, by the way, so you will get it back at our upcoming meeting!

    I have read Fahrenheit 451 several times, the last time was last semester for a course on book burnings.
    #38Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 24 Mai 08, 17:18
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    @Amy-MiMi
    I would love an email from you, although what I really envy is the fact that suziq, judex and wi-chan are planning another get-together soon!

    re reading: I have just finished "The Kite Runner" by Khaled Hosseini, a brilliant, if somewhat depressing book. Does anybody else know it? I have now started a much more harmless book, "Die Lauscherin im Beichtstuhl" by Andrea Schacht, a crime story in which a cat is the leading character.
    #39Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 24 Mai 08, 17:41
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    Judex, the mail's back!
    #40Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 24 Mai 08, 18:45
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    Amy I just finished Gogol "Die toten Seelen" and now I started
    Turgenjew "Aufzeichnungen eines Jägers". Why I suddenly like the 19th. century
    Russians I could tell in German but not in English, lack of vocabulary. )o:
    #41Verfasser Steve53 (329426) 24 Mai 08, 20:29
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    This evening, I tried something new since I have lived on pasta for the last 4 days.
    I tried "Aufbach-Pizza" Prosciuto with a fried egg.

    First of all, one shouldn't have put the ham on the pizza before the bakening because I haven't really read the manual.
    The ham startet to sublimate, looked rather funny.

    But the egg just wouldn't want to get fried in that ofen, so I thought about taking it down of the pizza again and putting into the pan, but then I simply elapsed (verstreichen) it on the pizza and it finally got fried.
    #42Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 24 Mai 08, 21:59
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    @Snowflake
    *chuckle*
    #43Verfasser judex (239096) 24 Mai 08, 22:12
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    *g* Wow, sounds truly delicious...
    BTW, I think LEO fooled you, that's only deadlines which elapse. Butter, eggs, whatever, get spreaded afaik.
    #44Verfasser tigger (236106) 24 Mai 08, 22:38
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    Hello! In Switzerland one should be able to get decent ingredients to produce pizzas, I would think. Why do you prepare such strange dishes, Snowflake?
    #45Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 24 Mai 08, 22:46
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    @Amy: Ich kann bis heute dieses Wort nicht aussprechen. ;-) Not if my life depended on it!(anyone?)

    @Goldammer: Ein Krimi mit einem Kater als Hauptfigur? Wie soll das denn gehen? Kann er auch sprechen? Und was wird geklaut? Mäuse natürlich? ;-)

    @Snowflake: ein bisschen Hilfe mit dem letzten Satz:
    But that egg just didn't want to get fried in that oven, so I thought about taking it off of the pizza again and putting it into the pan, but then I simply spread it (out) over the pizza and it finally got fried. (Obwohl "cooked" hier besser passt. "Fried" ist fast immer auf dem Herd, nicht im Ofen.)
    Naja, Hauptsache es hat geschmeckt. *neugierigaufeineantwortwart*

    @Steve: anspruchsvolle Literatur. Hat das vielleicht etwas mit der DDR zu tun(, dass du diese Autoren jetzt liest)?

    #46Verfasser wupper (354075) 24 Mai 08, 22:46
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    Hallo, Wachtelkönig. Ich glaube, Snowflake möchte nur kreativ sein. Neue Sachen ausprobieren und so.
    #47Verfasser wupper (354075) 24 Mai 08, 22:50
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    judex' Nachtgesang heute etwas ganz Anderes:


    Erinna an Sappho

    Vielfach sind zum Hades die Pfade", heisst ein
    Altes Liedchen - "und einen gehst du selber,
    Zweifle nicht!" Wer, suesseste Sappho, zweifelt?
    Sagt es nicht jeglicher Tag?
    Doch den Lebenden haftet nur leicht im Busen
    Solch ein Wort, und dem Meer anwohnend ein Fischer von Kind auf
    Hoert im stumpferen Ohr der Wogen Geraeusch nicht mehr.
    - Wundersam aber erschrak mir heute das Herz. Vernimm!
    Sonniger Morgenglanz im Garten,
    Ergossen um der Baeume Wipfel,
    Lockte die Langschlaeferin (denn so schaltest du juengst Erinna!)
    Frueh vom schwueligen Lager hinweg.
    Stille war mein Gemuet; in den Adern aber
    Unstet klopfte das Blut bei der Wangen Blaesse.
    Als ich am Putztisch jetzo die Flechten loes'te,
    Dann mit nardeduftendem Kamm vor der Stirn den Haar-
    Schleier teilte, - seltsam betraf mich im Spiegel Blick in Blick.
    Augen, sagt ich, ihr Augen, was wollt ihr?
    Du, mein Geist, heute noch sicher behaus't da drinne,
    Lebendigen Sinnen traulich vermaehlt,
    Wie mit fremdendem Ernst, laechelnd halb, ein Daemon,
    Nickst du mich an, Tod weissagend!
    - Ha, da mit eins durchzuckt' es mich
    Wie Wetterschein! wie wenn schwarzgefiedert ein toedlicher Pfeil
    Streifte die Schlaefe hart vorbei,
    Dass ich, die Haende gedeckt aufs Antlitz, lange
    Staunend blieb, in die nachtschaurige Kluft schwindelnd hinab.
    Und das eigene Todesgeschick erwog ich;
    Trockenen Augs noch erst,
    Bis da ich dein, o Sappho, dachte,
    Und der Freundinnen all,
    Und anmutiger Musenkunst,
    Gleich da quollen die Traenen mir.
    Und dort blinkte vom Tisch das, schoene Kopfnetz, dein Geschenk,
    Koestliches Byssosgeweb, von goldnen Bienlein schwaermend.
    Dieses, wenn wir demnaechst das blumige Fest
    Feiern der herrlichen Tochter Demeters,
    Moecht ich _ihr_ weihn, fuer meinen Teil und deinen;
    Dass sie hold uns bleibe (denn viel vermag sie),
    Dass du zu frueh dir nicht die braune Locke moegest
    Fuer Erinna vom lieben Haupte trennen.


    Eduard Mörike

    #48Verfasser judex (239096) 24 Mai 08, 23:01
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    It's all Greek to me!!! Den Nachtgesang zum Lesen mitnehme.

    Gute Nacht!
    #49VerfasserMOTHER (383672) 24 Mai 08, 23:15
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    @wupper: cat crimis? Look for Akif Pirinci. Exciting!

    @mother: don't worry. It's also difficult for Germans.
    #50Verfasser bluesky (236159) 24 Mai 08, 23:22
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    @wupper
    The cat - a she-cat btw - is the first-person narrator. She is living in a monastery, and at the moment just sharing her thoughts and experiences with the reader, not speaking to the humans in the book, though. No crime has happened yet, so I can't tell you yet how she will go about that.
    #51Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 24 Mai 08, 23:39
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    Hello everybody

    @Amy-MiMi
    Never ever am I a football fan. (I wonder whether that’s grammatically correct. Sounds weird.) On the other hand, there is the European football championship in Swizerland (and Austria) starting next month. I don’t think there will be way to avoid it completely. And perhaps the Swiss national football team will become champion. And then of course I’ll be a fan. ;-)

    @Silvapunkt
    Funny way to narrate the story of our national hero. Never heard it in less words. That’s the way it should be taught in school.

    @suzig
    Yes I know. I think my last post was in Dezember or even November, except the pushing of the deadman’s pedal a few days ago. ;-)
    I have had a hard time since the end of last year. A lot of work. Not a single free day even during Christmas time, New Year an Easter. But finally the new software is implemented und it’s getting less stressfull. there was virtually no time to read the yellow boxes not to mention write a post. I think I just managed to avoid the so-called burnout. But what am I telling about. I’m trying to read all the posts since Dezember and I’ve just read about Steve53’s heart pace maker and his other health problems. So, I think I’m well ... and hope Steve will be, too.
    Steve, I wonder whether the number in your nick is your year of birth. (Don’t answer if you don’t want to, of course.)

    I got it that Silvapunkt is Swiss - what else with this nick, I’ve got still one of these landscape books - and I know from last year that Snowflake is Swiss. Anyone else willing to admit?

    @Schneeflocke
    Why by ingredients and put it on a piece of dough manualy when Migro has it allready done for you. I would do the same. Perhaps Coop instead of Migro.


    And welcome to all the new snails I have never met before and those who have forgotten me in the meantime.
    #52VerfasserWilliB (336037) 24 Mai 08, 23:40
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    @suziq
    I just looked it up. My last post before pushing the deadman's pedal on 11th May was on 19th October. Unbeliefable. At least it evidences ... I’m not addicted. ;-)
    #53VerfasserWilliB (336037) 24 Mai 08, 23:52
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    Schönes, interessantes Gedicht. Ich hätte da auch ein paar Fragen, wenn wir mal eine Literaturstunde veranstalten wollten. Vielleicht in einem anderen Faden, falls es genug Interesse gibt.

    Gute Nacht, Mother. (Na, wenn das sich nicht komisch anhört. Das mit den ganzen Eltern-Nicks ist so eine Sache. Gibt es nicht so ein Kinderbuch, das auf Englisch heißt: 'You are not my mother'?)

    bluesky, gerade wollte ich auch Pirinçci vorschlagen, musste ihn aber zuerst auf dem Regal finden, um die Schreibweise zu prüfen. (-;

    Ich habe weder Gogol noch Turgenjew (engl.: Turgenev, glaube ich, vielleicht manchmal auch Turgenyev) gelesen. Sogar Dostojewski (Dostoyevsky) war mir eine harte Nuss. Tolstoi (Tolstoy) dagegen habe ich aus irgendeinem Grund mit 13 oder 14 geschlungen. Keine Ahnung, warum, ich mag ihn jetzt nicht mehr. Vielleicht muss man Russisch besser können bzw. Russland besser kennen.

    Steve53, ich würde auch etwas mehr über deine Gedanken zur russischen Literatur lernen, wenn du erzählen magst. Auch wenn du hier auf Deutsch schreiben musst. Wir müssen nicht immer konsequent sein.

    Ich habe das Gefühl, dass Snowflake einfach nicht einkaufen gehen wollte. Das kann ich auch verstehen, aber mit Eiern und Prosciutto hätte ich vielleicht ein Omelette versucht.

    'Sublimate' macht man übrigens nur in der Psychologie (vielleicht auch der Chemie), nicht üblicherweise in der Küche.



    #54Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 25 Mai 08, 00:00
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    Quick hello!
    #55Verfasser Wolfman (236211) 25 Mai 08, 00:01
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    Hi hm--us

    ich würde auch etwas mehr über deine Gedanken zur russischen Literatur ERFAHREN. I think that's a so-called false friend.

    If not sublimate, what's the correct verb for making a ready made (?) pizza better? Refine?
    #56VerfasserWilliB (336037) 25 Mai 08, 00:09
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    *f5* Ein schnelles Hallo und gute Nacht zurück an Wolfman.

    @WilliB: Hallo und willkommen zurück (wenn das mal nicht 6gängig ist). Ich vermisse auch willi winzig (unter vielen anderen Verschollenen). Ich glaube, ich hatte die ganzen Willis nicht ganz klar auseinander gehalten, aber danke, dass du dich wieder vorgestellt hast. (-:

    Ein Problem mit der Coop-Lösung ist, dass sie am Wochenende nicht immer sehr spät auf bleiben, oder? In Europa hat man oft Pech, wenn man sich nicht rechtzeitig daran erinnert hat einzukaufen. Versuch mal, ein einfaches Sandwich am Samstag nach 18:00 in Wien aufzutreiben. Oder vielleicht ist das eher ein Touristenproblem, weil die Märkte in der Mitte früher schließen als die in den Vororten?
    #57Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 25 Mai 08, 00:12
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    I know what you mean. But these gas station shops are getting more and more common even here in Switzerland. I live in a small village with about 1000 inhanbitants. And even here is such a shop which ist open till 11 pm. Great achievement when you get hungry and feel like a pizza before bed time. ;-)
    #58VerfasserWilliB (336037) 25 Mai 08, 00:20
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    Hi, hm--us and WilliB.

    Please, don't expect me to be for long.

    What's the problem concerning shop opening hours? If I know that a shop will close at 8pm I make an effort to get there in time.
    #59Verfasser Wolfman (236211) 25 Mai 08, 00:33
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    Danke für die Korrektur, das hätte ich schon wissen sollen, grrr. Ich habe auch ein wichtiges Wort ausgelassen: Ich würde eigentlich gerne mehr über Steves Gedanken erfahren.

    Amy hat gefragt, was wir zur Zeit so alles lesen. Ich habe in letzter Zeit kaum richtige Bücher gelesen, eher Magazinen und Kurzgeschichten, wenn überhaupt. Ich versuche gerade, Cranford (von Elizabeth Gaskell, die mir früher sehr gefallen hat) wieder zu lesen, nachdem es kürzlich auf PBS war und ich es meist verpasst habe, komme aber nicht sehr weit voran.

    Fahrenheit 451 habe ich auch noch nie gelesen, glaube ich.

    Ein Pizza aufpeppen könnte man, by spicing it up? Pep up geht auch. Aber ich dachte, dass Snowflakes Schinken etwas anderes im Ofen gemacht hatte, irgendeine chemische Reaktion oder so. Kann mir das eigentlich nicht sehr gut vorstellen.
    #60Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 25 Mai 08, 00:33
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    ... please don't expect me to be here for long.
    #61Verfasser Wolfman (236211) 25 Mai 08, 00:34
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    Okay, Wolfman, ich habe schon 'Gute Nacht' gesagt, was willst du mehr? Gute Nacht nochmal. Schlaf gut. (-:

    Der Haken daran ist, dass man nicht immer weiß, wie lange sie auf haben. Ich hätte z.B. erwartet, dass alle Supermärkte grundsätzlich bis, sagen wir mal, 22 Uhr auf bleiben, aber in D/CH/Ö eben nicht.
    #62Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 25 Mai 08, 00:38
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    @hm--us: I was just correcting my initial posting (and adding my comment to the follwing one).

    I, for one, know that in my town center shops close at 8pm (in one central shopping mall).
    #63Verfasser Wolfman (236211) 25 Mai 08, 00:51
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    I'm really off now, goodnight, hm--us and everybody else! Sleep tight!
    #64Verfasser Wolfman (236211) 25 Mai 08, 00:56
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    Hi Wolfmann

    Of course we could discuss about the sense of that American 24/7 thing. But I like it when I can get whatever I like at all times. It prevents me from thinking. I admit to be a bit lazy at times. However, most of the time I'm in Europe and so I have to make the effort to get there in time.

    To relax a bit after hard times at work I went to a 10-day cruise through the Caribbean (amazing) an durng these ten days I read World Without End by Ken Follet. That's the stuff I like. Over a thousend pages an thrilling from the first to the last page. I like also novels by Grisham. I've raed every single book written by Dan Brown. I've never read those standard works like War and Peace and that things. I don't know why. Perhaps I should just buy one an try it.

    and currently, as the motorbike season starts again, I read a lot of mororbike magazines. Just to learn about new trends and interesting routes.
    #65VerfasserWilliB (336037) 25 Mai 08, 00:57
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    1 am. That's time for me, too. good night hm--us and Wolfman and everybody else.
    #66VerfasserWilliB (336037) 25 Mai 08, 01:00
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    Good night, Wolfman! Good night, WilliB!

    *waving_at_hm-us*

    I am not reading anything at the moment, I mostly just browse :-) I received two used books from Germany this week: "Luftbildatlas Niedersachsen" and "Luftbildatlas Mecklenburg-Vorpommern". These are part of a series covering many German states. Sadly they are long out of print, and I have to acquire them one by one through Abebooks. They are somewhat similar to the "Over ..." or "... From the Air" books, but with a stronger educational slant. While browsing, I am listening to a boxed set of 10 CDs that arrived today (Thomas Tallis, The Complete Works; Chapelle du Roi, Alistair Dixon).
    #67Verfasser Norbert Juffa (236158) 25 Mai 08, 01:13
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    Hi Norbert Juffa,
    (Yes I know, still not in bed even I said good night.)

    You received the books FROM Germany? That implies that you are not from Germany.. oder at least not in Germany right now. May I ask where you are from? (only if you want to tell)

    So, and now it's really time. I'm off.
    #68VerfasserWilliB (336037) 25 Mai 08, 01:39
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    @WilliB: I am from Germany originally. I live in California now (San Jose).
    #69Verfasser Norbert Juffa (236158) 25 Mai 08, 01:43
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    Schoenen guten Morgen,

    war wohl gestern zu müde und habe vergessen, mich bei bluesky für den neuen Faden und bei Judex für den Nachtgesang zu bedanken! Einen Danke an Beiden!

    Hallo hm--us! Eine Literaturstunde wäre toll! Habe gestern beim Lesen eines sehr interessanten Etymologiefadens (eigentlich zwei) im Französischforum an dich gedacht (wahrscheinlich, weil da auch viele schöne Rätsel drin sind)
    Siehe auch: [fr-de] 2. Etymologie-Faden
    https://dict.leo.org/forum/viewGeneraldiscuss...
    idThread=504148&idForum=&lp=frde&lang=de

    A propos russische Literatur: ich habe bis jetzt nur paar Kurzgeschichen von Chekhov und War and Peace (auf Englisich) gelesen. Ansonsten habe ich vorgestern einige Stücke von Oscar Wilde zu Ende gelesen und gestern habe ich angefangen mit L'Alchemiste (vor vielen Jahren auf Englisch gelesen) und versuche dabei mein Französisch aufzufrischen. Geht aber echt super langsam! Und da ich jetzt seit wirkich langem nichts auf Deutsch gelesen habe, habe ich gestern mit 'Deutsche Literatur' angefangen und beabsichtige damit auch die viel zu vielen Wissenslücken zu beseitigen. Geht aber noch langsamer. Manchmal verstehe ich einfache Sätze nicht. Hoffe sehr, dass ich nicht aufgebe.

    snowflake, mein Bruder war auch immer sehr 'abenteuerlich' und 'unconventional' beim Kochen und kocht jetzt viel besser als ich und kocht wirklich gut! :-)

    Einen schönen Sonntag wünsche ich Euch!
    #70VerfasserMOTHER (383672) 25 Mai 08, 08:38
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    einen Dank (und nicht danke) an Beiden!!!
    #71VerfasserMOTHER (383672) 25 Mai 08, 08:40
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    @Mother

    danke euch beiden

    or

    einen Dank an euch beide

    (I am not totally sure about writing "beide" with small letters, could have been changed in the new spelling rules; I have become very unconfident in my language feeling of upper and lower case)
    #72Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 25 Mai 08, 09:25
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    Hi there, snails! Had to poke in a tentacle to see what's going on.

    I hope I did not fall on your nerves with my being silly on friday. I don't know why I was being in high spirits, but I definitely was, and so I decided to quit smoking yesterday. Bought me a big box of nicotine chewing gum for the cravings. They taste not really nice and burn your mouth, but anyway: It was my first day without smoking in more than 15 years. I wonder how long I can stand it, for the moment I feel fine. Must be some strange endorphines in the air.

    I'm off, work is calling.
    #73VerfasserSilvapunkt (444726) 25 Mai 08, 13:33
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    Maybe I haven't described my newest cooking thing clearly enough.

    I didn’t make the Pizza myself, it was a deep frozen pizza which you had to put in the oven. (We call it Aufbach-pizza).
    There was a pizza and some ham in the package.
    It was written that one shouldn’t put the ham on the pizza before the bakening, of course I haven’t read it.
    So I put the ham on the pizza and the egg on the ham.

    The ham indeed started to sublimate, which is a chemical reaction.
    (water goes from frozen into gas without becoming liquid)
    I haven’t seen this before, so I was rather amazed.

    Yes, it tasted quite okay.
    I guess I’m not (yet) a too skilled cook.
    I guess I needed a good beginners cooking book.

    Another problem is, that there’s hardly anything that I like, that is easy to prepare, that one can cook at all in our fridge.

    Well, I'll go for another round of cooking adventure today.
    But what shall I cook? There's a lot of cheese, some raw ham, and variuos canned things in the fridge. Some fruits, some eggs.
    No vegetables but some tomatoes, no bread.


    Thanks for the corrections.

    @ Silva
    Try some chocolate.

    #74Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 25 Mai 08, 14:26
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    @ snowflake: You have some strange pizzas in Switzerland ;-). (Are you sure it's called "Aufbach-" not "Aufbackpizza" BTW?) The products of Fertig-Pizza I know all have the ham on it already (and you don't have to take it off to put it into the oven either)

    @ wi-chan: How do you like Tender-Bar? I read it a couple of weeks ago and would like to know what you think about it.

    I just finished reading "Drei Minuten mit der Wirklichkeit" by Wolfram Fleischhauer. I really loved it.
    #75Verfasserbabs (31738) 25 Mai 08, 15:12
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    Ach ja: Nice to read you again WilliB and a big welcome to all the new snails.
    #76Verfasserbabs (31738) 25 Mai 08, 15:13
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    @Silva: Sounds like a good idea. Chances are probably higher to quit smoking if you are in a good mood than when you feel frustrated, or stressed. Good luck to you! And if you feel you need encouragement, please remember that you can always get it in the CC!

    Chocolate is always a good thing, not only if you want to give up smoking! Which reminds me that there is a little package in Suzi's fridge that we can look forward to next week ...

    babs, I have just come to p. 14, thus I do not have much of an opinion yet. But I will certainly let you know. Not much time for reading at the moment, though.
    #77Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 25 Mai 08, 15:21
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    Why strange?
    There are pizzas with "egg and garlic" in Italy, too.

    Yeah, Aufbackpizza.
    It's because we say bachen instead of backen.

    Usually the ham's already on the Fertigpizza, too, but this time it wasn't.


    Now I've got to put Kafka away and read Molière, it suddenly came to my mind, that I've got a literture test on Molière next week, and I haven't even read the preface.

    @wi-chan
    I do fully understand you concerning kafka.
    But me and literature is mostly a quetion of wanting.
    Do I really want to think about the topic?
    Do I want to go deeper?
    #78Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 25 Mai 08, 15:33
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    danke dir fuer die Korrektur Goldammer!
    einen Dank an dich Goldammer fuer die Korrektur! :-)

    Selbstkorrektur "Deutsche Literaturgeschichte' soll es heissen und nicht Deutsche Literatur.



    #79VerfasserMOTHER (383672) 25 Mai 08, 17:10
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    Viel Glück Silvapunkt!! (re: Rauchen)

    *judexundwichansagen,dasssieposthabenabernurumgoldammerneidischzumachen* ;-)

    Heute sprach mein Sohn mit Schweizer Akzent - als Jux...da sagte wrdl: "Ach ja, ich gehe jetzt zu Snowflake" (sprich zu leo!!)
    Die Symptome sind endlich alle weg und mir geht es wieder gut :-)

    @Flöckli - Schocki vergesse ich nicht...existiert noch und wird schön brüderlich/schwesterlich mit den anderen geteilt :-)
    #80Verfasser suziq (315879) 25 Mai 08, 17:18
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    @suziq
    You are a mean girl, aren't you??

    I had a mixed Sunday today: slept long, looked for a missed cat (once again; Tom this time), found him, cooked a nice meal with asparagus, had a reading and napping unit on my garden recliner, but did some housework and other work, too. Not too bad.
    I wish the holidays were continuing for another week - the coming week all regular dates, lessons with my English students etc, are starting again...
    #81Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 25 Mai 08, 17:40
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    Talking of chocolate, I need some.
    I guess I'll have to go down to the gas station to get some.
    #82Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 25 Mai 08, 18:15
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    @goldammer: moi? gemein? *ummichguck*...übrigens...ich hoffe, die Mahlzeit mit Spargel nicht in direkter Zusammenhang zur gefundenen Katze zu setzen ist. ;-) yumyum würde suzitochter sagen!
    #83Verfasser suziq (315879) 25 Mai 08, 18:26
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    You mean something like
    "cooked cat on a bed of asparagus"? No,no,no!!!
    #84Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 25 Mai 08, 18:38
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    But no! Cats are steamed, not cooked...

    Just kidding! Really! I would never do that! (I would probably have a food allergy against cats, as well ...)

    My first thought when I read your sentence, Goldammer, was "She cooked asparagus for the cat?" But the real meaning got clear on second reading. You seem to have adventurous cats, but they always come back to you. I guess that means you treat them well.
    #85Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 25 Mai 08, 18:47
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    Wasn't there once a discussion about cats in microwaves in CC?


    @suziq
    You can bring 'ehm the letter, too.
    #86Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 25 Mai 08, 18:50
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    @Flöckli - aber klar...ich würde ihnen deine Schreibfehler auf Deutsch doch nicht vorenthalten wollen ;-)
    #87Verfasser suziq (315879) 25 Mai 08, 22:34
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    wrdl sagte, ich sollte das schreiben - er hat mich praktisch gezwungen...ich musste es tun...sonst gibt er mir keinen Wein mehr ;-)
    #88Verfasser suziq (315879) 25 Mai 08, 22:36
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    Manno, seid Ihr fies :-))
    #89Verfasser judex (239096) 25 Mai 08, 22:38
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    Streck ihm die Zunge raus von mir :P.

    Why, do you think am I often given a 3 in orthography when writing essaies;-)?
    And ss/ß doesn't count as a mistake.

    (Just to say, that's about the average in this class.)
    #90Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 25 Mai 08, 22:40
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    @judex - Mail!
    Ich bringe den Rotstift mit, damit du auch was zu tun hast ;-)
    Fies? Das ist doch Britischer Humor...außerdem...das Flöckchenkind weiß, dass ich sie lieb hab' :-)...und Wibke hat jetzt das Handbuch für Deutsche, wie man Engländer einzuschätzen hat, schon gelesen...der Abend verspricht lustig zu sein!
    #91Verfasser suziq (315879) 25 Mai 08, 23:01
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    No, of course ß does not count. You are from Switzerland, you are excused on that behalf.

    Still, I am afraid I will have to restrain myself. That's the Lektorin-to-be inside me, noting every little mistake, having to fight down the urge to take out the red ink ... Nothing personal.

    F5: Sue and judex - Mail again! And I will have red ink, capital.
    #92Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 25 Mai 08, 23:04
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    judex' Nachtgesang :-)

    Strawberries cherries and an angel's kiss in spring
    My summer wine is really made from all these things

    I walked in town on silver spurs that jingled too
    A song that I had only sang to just a few
    She saw my silver spurs and said let pass some time
    And I will give to you summer wine
     

    Strawberries cherries and an angel's kiss in spring
    My summer wine is really made from all these things
    Take off your silver spurs and help me pass the time
    And I will give to you summer wine


    My eyes grew heavy and my lips they could not speak
    I tried to get up but I couldn't find my feet
    She reassured me with an unfamilliar line
    And then she gave to me more summer wine
    [ Summer Wine lyrics found on http://www.completealbumlyrics.com ]


    Strawberries cherries and an angel's kiss in spring
    My summer wine is really made from all these things
    Take off your silver spurs and help me pass the time
    And I will give to you summer wine


    When I woke up the sun was shining in my eyes
    My silver spurs were gone my head felt twice its size
    She took my silver spurs a dollar and a dime
    And left me cravin' for more summer wine


    Strawberries cherries and an angel's kiss in spring
    My summer wine is really made from all these things
    Take off those silver spurs and help me pass the time
    And I will give to you my summer wine

    Oohh-oh summer wine

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQiDs9tKZv4&fe...
    #93Verfasser judex (239096) 25 Mai 08, 23:06
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    "cooked cat on a bed of asparagus"?
    LOL Was für eine Soße würde am besten dazu passen?
    SCNR
    #94Verfasser wupper (354075) 25 Mai 08, 23:11
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    @sue
    Fehlt der Wein, dann wird es noch lustiger;-)

    In case I'm snowing in any of your houses this summer *menacing*, I'd like to see the corrected version :-)
    #95Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 25 Mai 08, 23:12
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    Siehe auch: Brat mir einer nen Storch! - Somebody fry a s...

    @wupper - hier sind bestimmt einige Ideen, die sich auf Katzenrezepte übertragen lassen ;-)

    Danke judex für den Nachtgesang (und Sommerwein ;-))
    #96Verfasser suziq (315879) 25 Mai 08, 23:17
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    Hi!
    #97Verfasser Wolfman (236211) 25 Mai 08, 23:18
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    Ach...den Wolfie treffen wir auch mal wieder :-)
    #98Verfasser suziq (315879) 25 Mai 08, 23:23
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    Yes, suziq, every now and then ... Hope you're ok!
    #99Verfasser Wolfman (236211) 25 Mai 08, 23:24
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    ... and if wupper and Snowflake are still aroun - hello to you, too.
    #100Verfasser Wolfman (236211) 25 Mai 08, 23:26
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    Yes.
    But not for long anymore.

    Hey wolf!
    #101Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 25 Mai 08, 23:28
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    Sodele...wir machen jetzt auch Schluss für heute. Das war ein kurzes Treffen Wolfie aber so ist das Leben ;-)

    Gute Nacht alle!
    #102Verfasser suziq (315879) 25 Mai 08, 23:30
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    RE #94
    Cat-alan sauce
    #103Verfasser judex (239096) 25 Mai 08, 23:30
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    I'm leaving, too.

    Bye wolfs and wupper!
    #104Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 25 Mai 08, 23:32
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    Good night, suziq!

    Ah, judex the southern joker ... ;-)
    #105Verfasser Wolfman (236211) 25 Mai 08, 23:32
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    ... and good night, Snowflake!
    #106Verfasser Wolfman (236211) 25 Mai 08, 23:33
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    Pfff... That's alright, Wolf, don't greet me if you don't feel like it ... ;-)

    Good night Suziq, regards to the Konsonantenhäufle! And sleep well, Snowflake!

    @95: Ach was, wir können auch Alkohol trinken, ohne Spaß zu haben!
    #107Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 25 Mai 08, 23:34
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    Sorry, wi-chan! Didn't know you were still around ...
    #108Verfasser Wolfman (236211) 25 Mai 08, 23:35
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    I'm not too sure myself whether I am. Admittedly, I am starting to get tired, too. Well, it is late, I think I'd better call it a day. Sleep very well, all of you!
    #109Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 25 Mai 08, 23:40
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    Bed-time for me, too! Good night, wi-chan.

    *quickwavearound*
    #110Verfasser Wolfman (236211) 25 Mai 08, 23:43
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    ♪Kein Alkohol ist auch keine Lösung♫
    gell, wi-chan :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGOtethL28w&fe...

    *SNCR*
    #111Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 25 Mai 08, 23:46
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    Hello! Now probably everybody has crept into their beds, at least the rightpondians. Or is Snowflake still around?
    #112Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 26 Mai 08, 00:10
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    The CC sunk to the second page!!
    This can't be tolerated, can it?
    Found it very difficult this morning to get up at 6.15 to get the boys off to school...we had all got so used to sleeping longish. Baah. But, on the other hand, it means that I don't have to cook today. Mr Goldammer is making a "Schöne Melusine" - smells very promising already.
    Everybody too busy to post, or what?
    #113Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 26 Mai 08, 12:15
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    Everybody too busy to post, or what?
    Well, yes.
    And I'm worried about the afternoon :S
    I hope my worries will not be confirmed.
    #114Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 26 Mai 08, 12:55
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    What's so worrying about this afternoon? Or is it the Molière test today?
    #115Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 26 Mai 08, 14:45
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    Man, was ist denn hier los! Da kommt man von einem ruhigen Wochenende zurück, und der neue Faden ist schon ein drittel voll!

    @Goldammer, "Everybody too busy to post, or what?", Ja!

    Scön Gruß an alle!
    #116VerfasserRMA (UK) (394831) 26 Mai 08, 17:51
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    Nope, still a few days to Molière.
    I've only had a not so nice rendezvous.
    But I survived it quite well.
    #117Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 26 Mai 08, 18:11
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    School or dactari :-)
    #118Verfasser judex (239096) 26 Mai 08, 18:12
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    dactus?
    #119Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 26 Mai 08, 18:15
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    What's that?
    #120Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 26 Mai 08, 18:17
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    Sorry : daktari
    Der Name „Daktari“ ist das Suaheli-Wort für „Doktor“. Der amerikanische Tierarzt Dr. Marsh Tracy (Marshall Thompson - „Daktari“) arbeitet in Afrika und unterhält die Wameru-Tierstation. Dabei helfen ihm seine Tochter Paula (Cheryl Miller) und die Amerikaner Jack Dane (Yale Summers) und Mike (Hari Rhodes). Unterstützung erhalten sie von dem englischen Wildhüter Hedley (Hedley Mattingly).
    #121Verfasser judex (239096) 26 Mai 08, 18:22
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    @Goldammer: Herr Goldammer kocht eine Schöne Melusine? Esst ihr dann heute Abend eine Schlangenfrau oder was? Der Dame bin ich erst in einem (übrigens guten) Roman von AS Byatt begegnet. Laut Wikipedia gibt es aber auch ein Stück von Mendelssohn mit demselben Namen ...
    #122Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 26 Mai 08, 18:24
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    I have to admit I had never heard of a Melusine until now. I had to look it up in Wikipedia. "LEO bildet" :-) Now I am curious what kind of dish a "Schöne Melusine" may be. Nothing in Wikipedia about that, best I can tell.
    #123Verfasser Norbert Juffa (236158) 26 Mai 08, 18:53
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    school;-)



    Believe it or not, when I was young(er) I used to watch Daktari at my Grandmother's.

    #124Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 26 Mai 08, 18:58
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    Guten Abend! Auch ich war zu beschäftigt, um hier oder sonstwo zu schreiben. Ein abgehetzter Tag und Suzitochter sollte sich heute entscheiden, welches Instrument sie ab August in der Schule spielen möchte. Ich hatte mich heimlich auf die Klarinette eingestellt und dann kam sie freudestrahlend herein, und erzählte wie faszinierend, sie die Geige gefunden hätte. Ich muss kurz extrem schockiert ausgesehen haben, weil etliche Eltern in der Nähe lachten! Die Geige ist ein schönes Instrument...später...wenn man es beherrscht. Wenigstens hat sie keine Trompete gewählt! An diesem "Elternabend" haben alle Eltern und Kinder es geschafft ruhig zuzuhören - leider keine Selbstverständlichkeit heutzutage.
    #125Verfasser suziq (315879) 26 Mai 08, 19:00
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    Hallo, Norbert. Tut mir leid, ich dachte, ich hatte einen Link gemacht, aber er war blau aber nicht anklickbar. Komisch. Oh well.

    Noch einmal fürs Protokoll:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melusine
    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melusine

    Wir könnten das im Baby-Namenfaden vorschlagen ...

    *f5* Hallo, suziq. Wenn sie gerne singt und den Ton (die Note?) genau treffen und gut (be? an?)halten kann, dann ist sie bei der Geige richtig. (Auch wenn es, ja, erst nach ein paar Jahren wie Musik klingen wird. *g*) Ansonsten wäre ein Blasinstrument vielleicht tatsächlich eine gute Idee.

    #126Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 26 Mai 08, 19:10
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    @hm-us: Tja...das Kind hat sich entschieden und in der Schule sagen sie, dass die Kinder eine Treffquote von 98% hätten. Vielleicht haben wir Glück und das Kind ist außerordentlich talentiert *hoffnungnichtaufgib* und die Töne werden bald wie Musik und nicht wie goldammers katze klingen *g*
    #127Verfasser suziq (315879) 26 Mai 08, 19:18
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    I would always recommend the keyboard; at least there are no fractions smaller than a semitone :-) and it is a real allrounder. Even if you play the fiddle fairly well, you can't entertain people alone, with a keyboard you can -as long as there is an outlet somwhere near.
    #128Verfasser judex (239096) 26 Mai 08, 19:52
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    @judex - Keyboard wird aber nicht angeboten :-(
    #129Verfasser suziq (315879) 26 Mai 08, 20:11
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    *Splash!*
    hello judex, suziq, hm-us, Norbert, Snowflake and all those I forgot to mention

    Suziq, most instruments are a torture to the listener if played by a beginner. It probably does not make any difference whether it's the clarinet or the violin. Don't they teach the bagpipes at your daughter's school? Now that would be the real thing to listen to.

    Judex, according to the statistics, children prefer learning the keyboard to all other instruments by far. But even if you are highly gifted - for a child it's a long way until you can entertain someone with your music (and not with your involuntarily funny attempts).

    Goldammer, like everybody else I haven't got a clue what a "Schöne Melusine" is. If I had to make a guess I'd say it sounds like a Bowle (what's that in English?).
    #130VerfasserSilvapunkt (444726) 26 Mai 08, 20:22
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    Auja silvapunkt...Bagpipes...das wäre wahrscheinlich DIE Gelegenheit, dankbar zu sein, dass man in der Flugschneise wohnt ;-)
    #131Verfasser suziq (315879) 26 Mai 08, 20:28
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    Here you are:

    http://www.uni-giessen.de/~gc85/mp0410/melu_e...

    Mr Goldammer's version was delicious, btw. We put the tomatoes not underneath the mince meat but on top. Looks very nice and tastes nicer, too, I think.
    #132Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 26 Mai 08, 20:35
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    @silva.
    Well, didn't really mean entertain solo, more like having fun singing together like playing the chords on a guitar.
    #133Verfasser judex (239096) 26 Mai 08, 20:36
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    suziq: :))
    I could send you an old tape of my brother and me playing the recorder on christmas eve - you'd go for the pipes and the planes together.

    Goldammer: It makes my stomach grumble. In dialect, we would describe it as "chüschtig", I don't even have a German word for that, let alone English. Dinner's not yet in sight here. (sigh)

    Judex, right you are. The violin is not the best choice for accompanying, and the piano is rather good for starting to make music.
    #134VerfasserSilvapunkt (444726) 26 Mai 08, 21:12
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    oh, music.

    Hm, when I was six I was sent to Music class, too.
    I played the flute.

    I had to practise this every day, but I wasn't that skilled at all. Once I had to play the scale, but somehow I didn't manage.
    I couldn't even hear that it was wrong.
    My mother told me so and we had arguements EVERY day about my flute playing, in the end she had to go to the flute teacher to proove that she was right (of course she was, she's very good at music but I somehow didn't inherit this.)
    We then gave up the flute playing.

    Nevertheless, when it came to choosing between music and drawing, I chose the choir, because I thought it funnier.
    #135Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 26 Mai 08, 21:15
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    And beware, there is a catch, at least when the teacher is paid per person. He always will tell you that your child is highly talented, another Bach or like, because as long as you believe in his words he gets the money.
    #136Verfasser judex (239096) 26 Mai 08, 21:22
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    @silvapunkt, I would say "Dô hôb i jetz an Gluscht drauf." But this works only in Swabian dialect.
    #137Verfasser bluesky (236159) 26 Mai 08, 21:59
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    bluesky, Gluscht (Swabian) is like Gluscht (Swiss). You might say something is "gluschtig", but that's not the same thing as "chüschtig". Maybe Snowflake can help out with a proper translation.
    Anyway, I'm going to have a nice plate of tortelloni with artichoke and thyme now. Dasch au gluschtig!
    Bye, all!




    #138VerfasserSilvapunkt (444726) 26 Mai 08, 22:15
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    @Silvapunkt
    My Wuerttembergian version would be:
    "Dô hett i jetz grad a Glüschtle druff!"
    #139Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 26 Mai 08, 22:17
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    ok, should have f5ed.
    I'm curious what Snowflake might suggest as a proper translation of "chüschtig".
    #140Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 26 Mai 08, 22:19
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    mhm.
    To be honest, I don't use that word.

    http://www.dialektwoerter.ch/de/e.html
    (ergiebig)

    http://www.korrekturen.de/forum/index.cgi/rea...
    (herzhaft)

    We'd say "Es fueret" ~es stopft, lädt voll.
    #141Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 26 Mai 08, 22:33
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    Hello! This is not fair. Happy conversation when decent snails work, and nothing when they work more slowly at night and would like to exchange some pale yellowish thoughts. Just sent off some important stuff and will head to some flooded fields west of town. Interesting migratory shorebirds the last two weeks. Memorial Day after all. Unfortunately not warm enough to spend some time at the pool, which they reopened on last Friday.
    #142Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 26 Mai 08, 22:34
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    Hi Wachtelkönig,
    good morning over there!
    What on earth might "pale yellowish thoughts" be?
    Ah, you are referring to the new leo-layout, aren't you, just came to my mind.
    Will you share what birds you saw later, maybe in the birder thread?
    Anyway, I wish you a nice day!
    #143Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 26 Mai 08, 22:40
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    Good evening, good morning to right and left pondians respectively ...
    #144Verfasser Wolfman (236211) 26 Mai 08, 22:42
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    @sawehe: Thanks for solving the riddle surrounding the cooked Melusine. What a fanciful name for what seems to be essentially cauliflower au gratin: http://www.jupiterimages.com/popup2.aspx?navi...

    I assume "pale yellowish thoughts" are words uttered on these very pages.
    #145Verfasser Norbert Juffa (236158) 26 Mai 08, 22:44
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    due to my cookbook, the recipe was created by the first German TV cook, and the special thing about it is that the cauliflower is used as a whole, not cut up in Röschen. It really looks very nice when it is done.
    #146Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 26 Mai 08, 22:49
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    May I offer a Krombacher for decent working snails as compensation?
    #147Verfasser bluesky (236159) 26 Mai 08, 22:53
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    hey wolfie (I'm sure you're around), bluesky and Mr King!
    #148Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 26 Mai 08, 23:53
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    *downloadingtheKrombacher* Thanks, I returned pretty thirsty from my short excursion.

    Hi Snowflake, are you still around!
    #149Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 27 Mai 08, 02:19
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    Yes, I am.
    No Krombacher for me, though.
    I don't really like beer, its taste reminds me of cornflakes.
    #150Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 27 Mai 08, 02:28
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    Cornflakes? So I better open the Californian Cabernet Sauvignon instead of offering you my last bottle of Corona Light. But shouldn't you be seeping by now?
    #151Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 27 Mai 08, 02:34
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    A little Sauvignon will make me sleep like a baby;-)

    Yes I should. An I guess it's good that you tell me, otherwise my nocturneness will completely get out of hand.
    I think I had better get used to a normal daily routine.
    I'll try to get some more sleep the next night.
    #152Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 27 Mai 08, 02:41
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    Then go ahead and download a sip.
    #153Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 27 Mai 08, 02:49
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    *downloadingasipofSauvignon*
    *wavingatWachtelkönig*

    *creepingout*
    #154Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 27 Mai 08, 02:53
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    Good morning everybody!

    I'm back at my desk. I hope I didn't miss importants things in the last threads. I doubt that I'll get to read it all.

    We spent a few days in my favorite part of Italy the Tuscany. We had an apartment about 30 km south of Livorno. It's a good starting point for tours and a nice place to stay because of the Pine forest along the coast. We had wonderful relaxing days.
    Unfortunately we had only 2 really sunny beach-days, which was disappointing for my son. His main intention was to get a good tan. We visited Florence, Volterra, Siena, Pisa and San Giminiano but the fun is very limited when it's raining all day. We even left earlier because of the bad weather forecast.
    #155Verfasseruke (236845) 27 Mai 08, 08:04
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    Moin uke

    creeping through very fast, this morning I will get the the new American "Wunderwaffe" in nasty wound treatmen. I am hopeful but a little skeptic! The "experts" will be here in a moment.
    #156Verfasser Steve53 (329426) 27 Mai 08, 08:13
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    Guten Morgen uke und steva :-)

    @silva: Blockflöte konnte ich ganz gut spielen, (meinte ich damals)aber als meine große Tochter Blockflöte lernte, musste sie zum Supermarktparkplatz ca. 300m von hier gehen. ;-) Wir haben eine recht musikalische Nachbarschaft und im Sommer, wenn die Fenster offen sind, kann man Akkordian, Flöte, Klavier und irgendein Blasinstrument hören. Das ist der Vorteil von einer Siedlung, die sich über die Jahren einlebt und entwickelt - die musikalischen Darbietungen werden auch besser!
    #157Verfasser suziq (315879) 27 Mai 08, 10:13
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    Puh, jetzt habe ich euch schon suchen müssen!

    @ Snowi: salty and strange... LOL!
    @ suziq: sei froh, dass niemand in deiner Nachbarschaft Schlagzeug spielt. Ein Alptraum, kann ich nur sagen... Meine Tochter spielt Harfe, das geniessen die Nachbarn schon eher, denke ich... ;-)
    @ Steve: warum brauchst du eine Wunderwaffe, hast du eine Infektion? Passt du auf dich zu wenig auf?? *schimpf* (ich schimpfe immer, wenn ich mir Sorgen mache...)
    #158Verfasser the kat (387522) 27 Mai 08, 10:58
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    @kat no, no, the foot is okay so far, no infection. It is only that this wound does not heal, for about 13 month now. So, and now I get a two shell cast that keeps the foot up in the air so that there is no load on the foot. That is the idea and I am glad that my new doc (very pretty BTW) is going to try something new.

    @suzi it's wonderful that your daughter wants to learn an instrument. One thing to consider is, if she also likes to sing she should pick an instrument to accompany herself,
    like guitar, piano or keyboard and not a woodwind or brass instrument.
    Maybe an ukelele :o)

    Some posts before there were some requests on me to say something about the Russian literature that I am reading at the time but my english vocabulary is not good enough to describe my thought about this. Maybe my German isn't either.
    Also diese Autoren sind allesamt aus der Zeit vor den Revolutionen in Russland.
    Sie beschreiben eine Zeit in der es noch die Leibeigenschaft und somit auch noch den Adel (Beamte, Gutsbesitzer, Militär) gab. Es war also eine über mehrere hundert jahre gewachsene Gesellschaft in der sich typische Merkmale in den einzelnen Bevölkerubgs schichten, besonders auch der Leibeigenen entwickelt haben, die wir heute allgemein als die "Russische Seele" bezeichnen. In der Zeit der Revolutionen und danach hat sich
    unsere Sicht darauf verändert, die Menschen sicherlich auch und es sind einfach nur Klischees entstanden, die von allen Seiten kräftig bedient werden.

    Phuu, langes Vorwort...
    Die Darstellung, die Beschreibung der einzelnen Charaktere, Adel wie Bauern,
    ist bei allen so excellent gelungen, man kann sich jeden Einzelnen richtig vorstellen,
    kennt seine Gefühle und Gedanken.
    Die Eindrücke von Jahres-und Tageszeiten, Wetterstimmungen, Landschaft sind, vieleicht etwas romantisierend, aber niemals kitchig beschrieben.
    Die Bücher lassen sich fließend durchlesen ohne lange zähe Passagen die man oft in anderen Büchern hat.
    Für mich sind es eine Art "impressionistische Gemälde" in literaischer Form.
    Zu sagen wäre noch, dass ich in jungen Jahren mehrmals damit begonnen hatte diese Bücher zu lesen, ich aber absolut keinen Zugang finden konnte.

    Okay, I hope that will do and maybe now you have a slight idea what I mean.

    #159Verfasser Steve53 (329426) 27 Mai 08, 14:42
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    @ steve: I hope the new treatment will be succesful.
    Thank you for your report about Russian literature. It made me curious and I am already bidding for an edition.

    But I just missed bidding for Fahrenheit 451 :(
    #160Verfasserbabs (31738) 27 Mai 08, 16:04
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    @steve: Get well soon! The proposal to keep the foot up and quiet was made a few time in the yellow boxes AFAIR, I hope it works out the way the doctor expects.

    Suziq: Choice of instrument is one of the hardest. Violin is a wonderful instrument but I was very glad my daughter picked the clarinette instead. The teacher where all my kids went to learn playing recorder also teaches violin and I asked her one day how she could stand the beginners again and again. She answered that she sees more of the advances from week to week and that she considers the parents fate harder. :))
    To state the piano as a music beginners instrument seems strange to me. I would encourage my kids rather to play an orchestra instrument that they can carry with them the day they move out. I only learned piano and could not take it along when I left my parents house. So I don't play any more even though I bought a piano 18 years ago. It's very hard to keep up the skill to say nothing of advancing.
    Suziq is your daughter participating in this NRW initiative JEKI (Jedem Kind ein Instrument)? I think this is a great opportunity and the kids hopefully will spur each other to better themselves.
    #161Verfasseruke (236845) 27 Mai 08, 16:04
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    Wenn man von unten nach oben scrollt, um das Verpasstes zu lesen, führt das zu Missverständnisse. Ich dachte, der Wachtelkönig würde vorschlagen, welches Bier Snowy zu Cornflakes trinken sollte. Igitt!

    @babs: Mach dir keine Sorgen. Fahrenheit 451 hat mir nicht sonderlich gefallen. Bradbury sagte, er habe den Roman in 9 Tage geschrieben, und das glaube ich ihm. Meiner Meinung nach sind seine Sätze zu kurz und hastig. Wenn du willst, bringe ich dir eine Kopie aus den USA. Sicherlich kann ich eine Kopie in einem Second-Hand-Laden finden.

    @Steve: Ich hoffe, dass die Wunderwaffe für dich Wunder schafft. Was du geschrieben hast, klingt sehr interessant. Sind die Bücher lang?

    Gitarre ist sehr schön, finde ich. Das man nicht gleichzeitig spielen und singen kann, hat mir immer an Blasinstrumenten nicht gefallen. Eine einzige Trompete ist nicht viel wert, es sei denn man will Taps spielen. Ein einziger Waldhorn? Das ist schön aber alleine ein bisschen dumm. Eine Gitarre, eine Violine, ein Klavier? Das sind praktische Instrumente, finde ich. Aber Haupsache ist, dass das Instrument dem Kind gefällt. Ich hätte Musik sehr schnell aufgegeben, glaube ich, hätte ich mit der Flöte anfangen müssen. Die Blasinstrumente waren das Richtige für mich.
    #162Verfasser Amy-MiMi (236989) 27 Mai 08, 16:36
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    *zu mir* Das war nicht freundlich, vielleicht sind uke und babs noch da. *zu mir aus*

    Hallo, uke und babs. Schön euch hier zu sehen.

    #163Verfasser Amy-MiMi (236989) 27 Mai 08, 16:40
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    Hi Amy and babs!

    @uke - Nein, wir sind noch in Hessen - auch wenn ich bis zur NRW Grenze spucken könnte (was ich natürlich niemals machen würde ;-)). Ihre neue Schule (und meine "alte") hat aber seit 10 Jahren eine Musikklasse und dieses Jahr sogar zwei. Sie haben sehr gute Erfahrungen mit den "Musikkindern" gemacht und haben mehr als 70 aktive Musiker (mehr als 10% der Schüler) an der Schule. Meine Mutter wollte immer, dass ich Klavier lerne, und versuchte mich zu bestechen, indem sie mir versprach, mir "a baby grand" zu kaufen: Druck nutzte auch damals bei mir nichts!
    #164Verfasser suziq (315879) 27 Mai 08, 18:07
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    @uke: Korr. (ich bin manchmal abgelenkt oder doof...wähle dir eine aus!) ich wohne gar nicht in der Nähe von NRW sonder RP...ich soll aufhören in Buchstaben zu denken!!
    #165Verfasser suziq (315879) 27 Mai 08, 19:23
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    *cleaningupmymess*
    *listeningtomusic*

    Hey everysnail!
    #166Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 27 Mai 08, 21:14
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    You are all so musical! Did every one of you play an instrument once? Frankly, I myself am about as musical as a tapeworm. Well, almost as musical, that is. I inherited that from my father. He once bought a set of two cordless telephones for his wife and himself, and wanted to set them to different tunes, so that they could always hear at once whose was ringing. It did not work, the tunes seemed to sound exactly the same no matter which number we dialed ... It turned out that they were the same. He had set them both on the same tune, firmly believing to have chosen different ones. He could not even hear it. So cute. (Funny, though, that his wife is a piano teacher, played the flute in her youth and is, all in all, quite musical.)

    Thanks, Suzi, for not spitting into RP! And if you do, I'll spit back into Hesse!

    And it's so true, uke, when you say it is really hard to keep up the skill. Wi-chan-Mann was such a talented keyboard player once! But he's played hardly a note since he knows me (he puts it like that, making it sound like it's all my fault). Now his keyboard is used as an item of decoration. Dusted once a week.
    #167Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 27 Mai 08, 22:51
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    *silently-creeping-along*
    #168Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 28 Mai 08, 03:44
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    Guten Morgen meine schleimigen Freunde!

    @Amy "Oblomow" is quite long but you will read so fast that you will be sad that the book is finish.

    @suzi I know a lot of people who learned to play guitar and they still play it more or less. I also know many people learning the violine and now the instrument is somewere in the attic or it is "nailed" as an artful decoration on a wall.
    I know you are rich and you can affort a "Steinway" for your dear little one. HAHA
    But you never know how long this "art attack" lasts.
    And listening all day to a wrong played guitar is nothing to a wrong played sax or clarinette. (o:

    My (step)sister came for a short visit on Sunday and as a little present she gave me a book written by Bill Bryson "Mein Amerika, Erinnerungen an eine ganz normale Kindheit."
    In English, "The life and times of the Thunderbolt Kid".
    Does anybody know Bill Bryson, does anybody know the book?
    #169Verfasser Steve53 (329426) 28 Mai 08, 09:39
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    I know Bill Bryson, he has (among other things) written many humorous books about different countries in the world, for example
    "Notes from a small island" about Great Britain where he lived for 20 years.
    Some people like him, some don't find his humor funny. Mr Goldammer has read "Picknick mit Bären", where he describes a hiking tour along the Appalachian trail which stretches over several thousand km and liked that one.
    I myself am at the moment reading "A short history of nearly everything", a book about the history of natural sciences, a very pleasant and understandable mixture of popular science and anecdotes about famous scientists.

    BTW, after what you wrote about Russian literature, I (who never thought that was something I might enjoy) am thinking about trying some. What would you recommend for a "beginner" in Russian literature? "Oblomow"?
    #170Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 28 Mai 08, 11:00
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    *tossing up a comma* (guess where?)
    *missing an editing function once again*
    #171Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 28 Mai 08, 11:01
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    Goldammer yes Oblomow is good to start with, I think. I am really not an expert on that subject. I started reading these books a few moth ago and I found that maybe I have missed something not reading them. My friend gave me the books, he studied slavistic and he was teacher for Russian language.

    #172Verfasser Steve53 (329426) 28 Mai 08, 11:24
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    Hi Steve! Ich gehöre zu denen, die Bill Bryson mögen. Viel Spaß beim lesen. Viele Bücher von ihm habe ich schon gelesen und oft gelacht. Es gab letztens eine Diskussion hier, dass er irgendwas Beleidigendes angeblich geschrieben hätte, aber selbst habe ich nie etwas entdeckt. So...heute Abend werde ich ein paar Weinbergschnecken genießen ;-) (mit Schocki dank Flöckli!)
    #173Verfasser suziq (315879) 28 Mai 08, 17:20
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    *envy suziq, judex and wi-chan for meeting and Snowflake-Schoki*, as I said before...
    Have fun!
    #174Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 28 Mai 08, 17:40
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    ;-)

    Have fun!
    #175Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 28 Mai 08, 18:23
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    *dropping a postcard*
    Dear snails,
    We are having a great time in Workaholia
    Please push the key for me

    Lots of sunshine,
    S.
    #176VerfasserSilvapunkt (444726) 28 Mai 08, 19:27
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    Poor Silva.

    Our cat's couching for two crows.
    What shall I do if she brings one of them home?
    They're huge, normally we throw her prey in the forest nearby, the fox then eats the sparrows and the mice, but we can't throw such a huge body into the woods, can we?

    (I could now ask for a recipe for crows *fiesgrins*)
    #177Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 28 Mai 08, 19:36
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    @sue, wichan judex
    Korrigiert schön und sagt mir das Resultat.
    Damit das aus meinem Hauchdeutsch dann mal was wird.
    *gg*
    #178Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 28 Mai 08, 19:54
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    @snowy make them with brown gavy, mashed potatoes and green peas. Those black birdies can be delicious if you don't spoil them.
    #179Verfasser Steve53 (329426) 28 Mai 08, 21:15
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    take an r for the gravy
    #180Verfasser Steve53 (329426) 28 Mai 08, 21:16
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    @suzi I started the book, it is really very funny and it brings back a lot of memories.
    #181Verfasser Steve53 (329426) 28 Mai 08, 21:18
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    @snowy if the cat messed up the crow to much, you can make fricassee. yumm
    #182Verfasser Steve53 (329426) 28 Mai 08, 21:21
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    *totschnecketaste drück*

    @Steve: Ich bin eine, die Bryson nicht mag. Ich weiß, dass viele meine Meinung nicht teilen.
    #183Verfasser Amy-MiMi (236989) 28 Mai 08, 21:32
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    Does that mean that Snowflake wants to eat crow? (-:

    Hier mein Rezeptvorschlag (mit Musik):

    http://eclipse.rutgers.edu/goose/rhymes/sass/...
    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/25418/25418-h/...
    #184Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 28 Mai 08, 21:53
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    The thirteen-lined ground squirrel did survive!
    #185Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 28 Mai 08, 22:10
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    Thanks for the recipes.
    Maybe I'll just put a little ketchup on it let the cat have it.
    Bah I hope it'll be already dead, no need to slaughter (notschlachten?) a perishing crow.

    The crow recipe song:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNVitnZCZ7s

    @wachtelkönig
    ?
    Why should the thirteen-lined ground squirrel not survive?
    #186Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 28 Mai 08, 22:36
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    Yay. Ein kleines positives Zeichen.

    Auch wenn es nicht unbedingt dasselbe Zieselchen wie letztes Jahr sein muss, oder (er)kennst du es etwa persönlich? (-;
    #187Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 28 Mai 08, 22:40
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    *f5* Rupfen soll auch Spaß machen. Ich habe es noch nie ausprobiert, aber ich wette, du wärst gut im Rupfen.

    Aber zuerst muss die Katze die anderen 23 schwarze Vögel fangen.

    Vielleicht würde Wachtelkönig dir eine Gans schicken, um inzwischen das Rupfen zu üben.
    #188Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 28 Mai 08, 22:47
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    Hello! Snowflake, after this miserably cold and way too long winter I would not have thought so. And hm -- us, it was looking out of the very same hole where it was last year.
    #189Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 28 Mai 08, 23:36
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    Hallo hm, Wachtelkönig! *lebenszeichenvonmirgib*
    it was looking out of the very same hole where it was last year.
    Also, ihr kennt euch fast per Du, sozusagen. ;-)

    @suziQ: Suzitochter hat sich das schwerste Instrument ausgesucht. Ihr musst euch jetzt auf das Gekreische gefasst machen. ;-)

    @Snowflake: Bon Appetit! Sei es Krähe oder komische Pizzas oder was auch immer...
    because I thought it funnier #135 because I thought it was more fun
    Ja, Eltern sollten ihre Kinder nicht dazu zwingen, ein Instrument zu spielen. Das klappt nicht. Es klappt nur, wenn das Kind es selbst will.

    *lichtausmach*
    *schnarch*
    #190Verfasserwpr (236109) 29 Mai 08, 01:11
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    Gute Nacht
    #191VerfasserNingün (448437) 29 Mai 08, 01:16
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    And I thought decent snails were rather nocturnal. But really time to creep into bed. Good night!
    #192Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 29 Mai 08, 06:47
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    *durechrüch*

    *wavingatwachtelkönig*

    Do I really have to get up now? :-(
    At such inhumane times?
    #193Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 29 Mai 08, 07:08
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    On the contrary - good morning :p. *not nocturnal at all*

    @ Steve: I had a peek into "The life and times of Thunderbolt kid" in a bookstore and found it amusing - I liked "Notes from a small island", too. However, recently I read "A short history of nearly everything and while it was clearly very educational, other than that I only could say: "It wasn't as boring as it could have been." :-/ So I guess it depends on the topic a bit, too, if he's funny.

    On recommendations for funny books: If you (all of you) haven't read "The Know-it-all" (German: "Britannica und ich") by A.J. Jacobs, read that! Sooo funny, and I read it in very short time (if not as short as normal because spending time with my best friend was more important ;)).

    Right now I'm reading "A Storm of Swords", part three of A Song of Ice and Fire. It's going a bit slow because I'm too tired to read much in the evening ...
    #194VerfasserFlowerstar (351182) 29 Mai 08, 07:08
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    Good morning / night everybody,
    and
    Welcome Ningün!
    You are new here, aren't you? I had a look at your profile and saw that none of the given languages seems to be your mothertongue. I'm very curious - may I ask where you are from? (answer only if you like, of course!)
    #195Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 29 Mai 08, 07:34
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    na, ihr seid aber faul heute!
    #196Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 29 Mai 08, 15:16
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    hm-us war mit den "four and twenty blackbirds baked in a pie" etwas schneller...das ist mir auch sofort zum Thema "Rezept" eingefallen!! "Blackbirds" sind zwar etwas netter als "crows" aber schwarz trotzdem.

    Wir, judex ausgenommen, hatten gestern (nach den regionalen Köstlichkeiten)einen regelrechten "Schocki-Tasting"Abend gemacht. Fazit: Schocki von Flöckli war lecker und die mit Limette und grünem Pfeffer gefüllte von Lindt muss man ein zweites Mal nicht kaufen; die mit Maracuja und Chili oder so aber durchaus annehmbar wäre.

    Heute gab es "Hitzefrei"!!! :-)
    #197Verfasser suziq (315879) 29 Mai 08, 16:52
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    I’m a new soul
    I came to this strange world
    hoping I could learn a bit 'bout
    how to give and take.

    But since I came here
    felt the joy and the fear
    finding myself making every possible mistake...

    I truly hope it´s not a mistake to hijack this conversation...? :-)
    #198Verfasser candice (447114) 29 Mai 08, 17:39
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    Hi Ningün und candice :-)

    candice...hast du vor dich immer mit Liedtexten mitzuteilen?? Willkommen...noch hast du nichts gekapert :-)
    #199Verfasser suziq (315879) 29 Mai 08, 17:54
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    Hi suziq,
    the song just came to my mind when I thought about a good way to introduce myself...
    Lucky you, that you had "Hitzefrei" - this is something that Bavarian principals would never dream of doing :-( (except maybe towards the end of July)
    Since you seem to be interested in recipes and yummy things to eat, here´s "The final word on nutrition" (I just came across this one today and I think it´s hilarious :-)

    THE FINAL WORD ON NUTRITION

    After an exhaustive review of the research literature, here's the
    final word on nutrition and health in the United States:


    1. Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

    2. Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

    3. Chinese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks
    than us.

    4. Italians drink excessive amounts of red wine and suffer fewer
    heart attacks than us.

    5. Germans drink beer and eat lots of sausages and fats and suffer
    fewer heart attacks than us.


    6. Pakastanis drink no beer and don't know what sausage is
    and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

    CONCLUSION:

    Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what
    kills you.

    #200Verfasser candice (447114) 29 Mai 08, 18:09
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    Hi candice! What a nice way of introducing yourself! Don't be afraid of making mistakes - everybody does it here, that's part of the fun.

    Very "sticky" day today (the washing I put up on a "clotheshorse" - is that really what you call it?? - in the garden this morning is still damp, in spite of the heat) - and no hope of a nice cool shower during the night. That would be my dream weather: nice and hot during the day, and a good shower or minor thunderstorm in the night, to cool down and refresh everything. Maybe tomorrow.
    #201Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 29 Mai 08, 20:08
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    Hi, I would love to send you the English showers - we have had nothing but grey sky and rain, rain, rain for 4 days now and the fun doesn't seem to stop!
    #202Verfasser neuchateloise (412016) 29 Mai 08, 21:20
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    *pushing the dead-wi-chan-button*

    I am so sorry! I was so busy that I did not get to the keyboard earlier than, well, now, to thank you (also, of course, in the name of Mr Chan):

    Judex, many thanks again for the very nice evening! We all left your home well fed (and, for my part, slightly drunk on your excellent Riesling).

    Thanks, Suzi, for the ride home! It was really so sweet of you and wdrl ... well ... you know who ... to drive us all the way to Mainz!

    Thanks, Flöckeli, for the tasty chocolate, the clear winner of the evening, in my opinion! (To make everybody else envious once more: It was Swiss milk chocolate, filled with almond cream, just delicious!) And never mind, I did not have to use any red ink at all. I simply wondered how you managed to "Mauer von der Mauer abkratzen".

    Flowerstar, I have read "The Know-it-all", too (well, to be honest, I read "Britannica & ich", because it was a present; had I bought it myself, I would have chosen the original). I, too, just loved it! I particularly liked the description of the Kappa (not the Greek letter, but a Japanese creature a bit like a monkey, but craving cucumbers).

    In the end, I would like to welcome the new snails candice and Ningün! Always nice to read new people here!
    #203Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 29 Mai 08, 23:06
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    Went studying in the library, after they closed at 20:00 I moved seven meteres to the churchplace and sat on a bank, reading a book.
    All the other benches were empty, but guess where the bloke that arrived at 21:20 sat down?
    My neighbouring bench.
    He then tried to chat me up "Wie heisst du?" -"Wieso?", "Was machst du?" " lesen?!?".
    He was getting rather bothering, I could hardly concentrate on my book. I could literally feel him watching me.
    I ignored him until he finally said: "Bist du scharf?"
    I was rather shocked. Smiled very embarrassedly and said firmly "No!"
    I'm not used to such questions at all.
    I wasn't looking coozie at all (I never do).
    Where did he get this strange idea from??? Hello??

    Instead of leaving he got up and said "Kann ich mich zu dir setzen?" -"Nein." never mind, he sat next to me.
    Great. One step further I'll slap him with that book. I will. grr.

    He talked on until I finally shouted in English "Just leave!" (sometimes this works)and I added a german "Geh!".
    He promised to go if I tell him my age.
    Haha. Sorry mate, just sod off. He then left.

    I hate this kind of chatting up. Makes me feel rather akward, I never know what to do in these situations.
    Ignore them?
    Just don't talk any German?
    Excusez-moi, je ne comprends rien?
    Or "Wüssed-dir, ig chan eifach kei Dütsch, ig verschtan üch nit u dir mi o nit u das isch guet so" (Dialect of Bern, not mine, but I might be able to fake it.)

    @sue
    Schön, dass es euch geschmeckt hat.
    #204Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 29 Mai 08, 23:08
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    Urgh! Poor Snowflake! Was he drunk? Sounds like it. Actually, I am not sure it's such a good idea to sit on a churchyard all by your own in the evening (even though there must still have been daylight). Be careful, Flöckeli, please! That bloke seems to have been rather harmless, but there are other types around ... And those won't be to impressed by a slap with a book.
    #205Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 29 Mai 08, 23:16
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    Re: Mauer von der Mauer abkratzen

    Es hat ja da irgendwo so Mauerteile aufgestellt.
    Irgendwo zwischen dem Gebäude der DB und dem Bundesfinazhauptgebäude (oder so).
    Dort hab ich dann mit dem Fingernagel etwas Lack und Mörtel(?) abgekratzt.
    #206Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 29 Mai 08, 23:18
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    Originally, they did not erect "Mauerteile", but a whole wall ... Berlin was quite famous for it, as far as I remember ... *gg* I know what you mean, I was just amused by your phrasing. (It should be Beton, actually, cause that's what the wall was made of.)
    #207Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 29 Mai 08, 23:20
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    I must admit I was quite glad that there were still so many people around.
    On thursdays we have our tradditonal evening sales.


    Mauer
    ;-)
    #208Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 29 Mai 08, 23:31
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    *silently-creeping-along*
    #209Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 30 Mai 08, 04:49
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    @Snowflake
    I think you were very brave in that situation on the bench. I would also say, how you reacted was basically ok (telling him loudly and clearly to leave) - only you made your statement far too late, I think. At the latest when he gave the "talk" a sexual context, you should have shouted at him immeditately and not allowed him to go on talking. If he hadn't left immediately, I would have left instead and gone to a place where more people are.
    Disgusting as it may seem, you "tolerating" his talk so long may have be seen by him as encouragement to continue.
    #210Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 30 Mai 08, 06:41
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    Agree with Goldammer. Shoot them onto the moon, all those idiots. Good night!
    #211Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 30 Mai 08, 06:50
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    Guten Morgen! Hat judex eine "snail overdosis" bekommen und braucht eine Weile sich zu erholen?

    @candice #200 *lol* (vielleicht habe ich einen extra Schutz, weil ich auch Deutsch spreche?)

    Es ist schon wieder Freitag und es hätte auch einen schönen langsamen Tag sein können, wenn ich meinem Sohn nicht versprochen hätte, mit ihm einkaufen zu gehen. Shoppen steht bei einigen oben auf der Liste der Lieblingsbeschäftigungen - bei mir nicht.

    Es ist komisch, wie man nachts/früh morgens träumt, und dann wenn man wach wird, ist man nicht ganz sicher, ob es wahr ist oder nicht. Ich träumte, ich hätte einen Termin von der Schulleitung bekommen, etwas mit einem Kollegen zu klären. Ich habe mit dieser Person, außer "Guten Morgen" zu sagen, überhaupt keine Berührungspunkte. Aber trotzdem habe ich das Gefühl, dass ich nachher in der Schule ihm sagen sollte: "Hey, Jürgen...wir müssen über irgendwas reden." - aber worüber?!!
    #212Verfasser suziq (315879) 30 Mai 08, 07:58
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    wi-chan, somehow I'm not surprised that you liked the Kappa :p.
    I'm considering buying some of his other books, too - the one how he tried living in accordance with the Bible sounded fun, too ...

    Snowflake, I agree with the others - next time someone asks you such a personal/sexual thing, take that as the point to tell him to get lost!

    I was chatted up by a guy yesterday, too, but I guess it was nicer than your experience ... He was in a wheelchair and searching for someone on my floor and addressed me when I went to my flat. Like usual I didn't understand, so I just said "Bonjour", smiled and nodded and went away, but he knocked at my door to ask for the flat he was looking for. I couldn't help him and he noticed that I wasn't French - and when I said I was German, he started speaking German with me (quite good German, to boot). We talked a bit, and then he asked if I'd like to have coffee with him. But I declined, even when I met him again on my way back from the supermarket and he asked again. I'm too much of a coward to accept any invitations like that *sigh* ...

    Correcturito for Suziq: es hätte auch ein schöner langsamer Tag sein können

    I hear you on shopping! Good luck with that ...

    Ugh, back to work - TGIF. I don't like stock market texts ... But at least something to look forward to beside the normal weekend: My best friend is coming to see me!
    #213VerfasserFlowerstar (351182) 30 Mai 08, 08:28
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    Morgen Flowerstar: Danke für die Verbesserung...das passiert, wenn ich mitten im Satz "die Pferde wechsele". Ursprünglich wollte ich erzählen, welchen schönen Tag ich gehabt hätte, wenn das blöde Shoppen nicht dazwischen gekommen wäre - dann "korrigierte" ich auf "sein können" - ach! Das geschriebene Wort!
    #214Verfasser suziq (315879) 30 Mai 08, 10:10
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    Guten Morgen alle!

    Ich hab diese Forum gesehen und dann gerade registriert...es kann für mich sehr nützlich sein, wann in den Arbeit langweilig ist lol :)

    ...und mein deutsch verbessern :)

    Mein Welcome Gift für alle, Bürospiele! Enjoy!

    Nach dem "Das traust Du Dich eh nicht" Punktesystem, gibt es für die nachstehenden Leistungen die
    genannten Punktezahlen.

    1* Punkt gibt's dafür

    1. Eine Runde in voller Geschwindigkeit um alle Schreibtische laufen

    2. Laut im WC‐Stall stöhnen und seufzen während sich mindestens 1 Nichtspieler in der Toilette befindet.

    3. Die ersten 5 Kollegen, die einen "Guten Morgen" wünschen, einfach ignorieren.

    4. Jemanden in der Firma, den man nicht kennt, anrufen und sagen: "Ich wollte nur sagen, dass ich
    momentan keine Zeit habe zu reden." Und auflegen.

    5. Das Ende einer Unterhaltung durch das Zuhalten beider Ohren signalisieren.

    6. Ein Blatt oder Memo, das einem gereicht wird mit den Fingern abtasten, dabei stöhnen und murmeln:
    "Hmmm. Das fühlt sich ja FANTASTISCH an."

    7. Mindestens 1 Stunde mit offenem Hosenstall herum laufen.

    8. Jeden der einen darauf hinweist mit der Bemerkung "Ich habe es lieber so" abkanzeln.

    9. Den Weg zu und vom Kopierer seitwärts gehen.

    10. Im Lift jedes Mal wenn die Tür aufgeht laut hörbar Luft holen.

    3*** Punkte gibt's dafür

    1. Zum Chef sagen "Ich finde Sie cool!" und dabei mit den Fingern eine abfeuernde Pistole imitieren.

    2. Unverständliches Zeug auf einen Untergebenen einreden und dann sagen: "Haben Sie das alles
    verstanden? Ich hasse es, wenn ich mich wiederholen muss."

    3. Sich selbst über die Lautsprecheranlage ausrufen, ohne die Stimme zu verstellen.

    4. Direkt vor den Wasserhahn knien und daraus trinken (ein Nichtspieler muss in Sichtweite sein).

    5. Wahllos laut Zahlen in den Raum rufen, wenn jemand etwas zählt.

    5***** Punkte gibt's dafür

    1. Am Ende einer Besprechung vorschlagen, dass alle zusammen händehaltend ein "Vater unser" beten.
    Extra Punkte gibt's wenn man selbst damit anfängt.

    2. Abends in das Büro eines Workaholics gehen und während dessen Anwesenheit das Licht zehn mal aus
    und wieder einschalten.

    3. Jeden mit dem man spricht mindestens eine Stunde lang "Herbert" nennen.

    4. Bei der nächsten Besprechung laut ankündigen, dass man kurz raus muss um "gross" zu machen.

    5. Jeden Satz mit dem Wort "Alder" in einem ziemliche harten Akzent beenden. "Der Bericht liegt aufem
    Tisch, Alder." Mindestens 1 Stunde durchhalten.

    6. Während der Abwesenheit eines Kollegen dessen Stuhl in den Lift fahren.

    7. Sich in einer Besprechung oder einer Gruppe wiederholt auf die Stirn schlagen und murmeln: "Seid doch
    mal ruhig! Ich wäre so froh wenn ihr alle mal endlich ruhig sein würdet."

    8. Beim Mittagessen niederknien und laut rufen: "Wahrlich, ich sage Euch: Der Herr wird mich nähren und
    ich werde nie wieder Hunger leiden müssen."

    9. In den Tagesplaner eines Kollegen eintragen: "Wie findest Du mich in Strumpfhosen?"

    10. Die eigene Tastatur zu einem Kollegen tragen und fragen: "Willste mal tauschen?"

    11. Folgende Unterhaltung mindestens 10 mal hintereinander mit irgendeinem Kollegen führen: "Hast du
    das gehört?" ‐ "Was?" ‐ "Egal ‐ es ist schon vorbei."

    12. In voller Kampfkleidung ins Büro kommen und wenn man nach dem Grund gefragt wird erwidern: "Ich
    darf nicht drüber reden."

    13. Getarnt als der Geschäftsführer eines Restaurants einen Kollegen anrufen und ihm sagen, dass er bei der
    letzten Visitenkarten Ziehung ein kostenloses Mittagessen gewonnen hat.

    14. Während einer wichtigen Telefon‐Konferenz mit einem Akzent sprechen (Sächsisch, Hessisch, Platt,
    Bayerisch)

    15. Den Staubsauger finden und um den eigenen Schreibtisch herum saugen.

    16. Klopapier aus der Hose hängen lassen und echt überrascht sein, wenn jemand darauf hinweist.

    17. Den Teilnehmern bei einer Besprechung Kaffee und Keks hinstellen und dann jeden Keks mit der Hand
    zerbröseln.

    18. Während einer Besprechung langsam mit dem Stuhl immer näher zur Tür rutschen.

    19. Playmobilfiguren bei Besprechungen gemäß der Sitzordnung anordnen und wenn jemand sich meldet
    oder was sagt die betreffende Figur dazu bewegen.
    #215Verfasser arizonadeux (448712) 30 Mai 08, 10:37
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    oh...und mein Nick war vorher "der J" in andere Artikeln...
    #216Verfasser arizonadeux (448712) 30 Mai 08, 10:43
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    @arizonadeux - Willkommen! Das "Spiel" habe ich schon gelesen...aber trotzdem immer wieder lustig *lol* - die Vorstellung in einem Meeting zu sitzen, und mit Playmobilfiguren die Beteiligten nachzumachen gefiel mir - so etwas würde ich natürlich nie tun, auch wenn ich die Möglichkeit hätte! Ich arbeite nicht im Büro (leider denke ich manchmal...heute zum Beispiel!!) :-)
    #217Verfasser suziq (315879) 30 Mai 08, 10:54
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    Nice to meet you, arizonadeux, and thank you for your welcome Gift! May I welcome you with some - really tiny - correcturitos?

    "... wenn es bei der Arbeit langweilig ist ..." (it is also possible to say: "wenn mir langweilig ist", and in some regions "auf der Arbeit" is used)
    "... mein Deutsch verbessern ..."
    "Nach dem [...] Punktesystem gibt es ..." (without comma)
    "... in anderen Artikeln ..."

    Well, Suzi, I could imagine it's just as much fun to imitate your classroom in Playmobil and move the figure of the pupil who says something. It might not make you their favourite teacher, though ... And don't you have meetings in the faculty room?

    Snowflake, good to hear there were other people around.

    Oh, Flowerstar, how could anyone not like something as weird as the Kappa?
    #218Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 30 Mai 08, 12:23
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    Welcome Ningün, candice and arizondeux!

    @ candice: I also liked your introduction

    @ arizonadeux: LOL! Thanks for giving me a good laugh. One of my collegues once came out of the bathroom like in # 16. I looked at him and I was almost too embarrased to say something. But then I thought of how embarrassed he would be if other people saw him walking around like that.

    @ snowflake: I also agree with sawehe. Being brought up to be generally polite makes it difficult at times to tell someone to p@** off right away when they start to get nasty. Nevertheless you should. Getting loud was a good idea, if it doesn't scare the person of at least it draws the attention of others.
    #219Verfasserbabs (31738) 30 Mai 08, 13:08
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    Hallo liebe Schnecken,

    arizonadeux, das ist auch mal bei uns im Büro herumgegangen - als ich dann den Kollegen, der es mir schickte, gefragt habe, "Und, wie viele Punkte hast du schon?" antwortete er mit "Noch nicht viele, Herbert, aber ich arbeite daran..." *gg*

    candice, ich mag das Lied auch sehr gern... :-)

    Wilkommen, euch beiden!

    Ich habe auch "The Know-It-All" gelesen und geliebt, ich frage mich aber, wie sie das denn übersetzt haben? Was tun, wenn eine der Einträge nicht mit dem gleichen Buchstabe anfängt? Haben sie die dann einfach dem jeweiligen deutschen Eintragsbuchstaben zugeordnet, und wenn ja, was tun wenn dann bei bestimmten Buchstaben (zB bei "C", kann ich mir denken)nichts überbleibt? Was Neues erfinden?? (did anyone at all understand what I'm trying to ask???)

    TGIF - I'm outta here... ;-)
    #220Verfasser the kat (387522) 30 Mai 08, 13:09
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    They had another solution for that, Kat: They just wrote the English name, and the translation in brackets.
    #221Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 30 Mai 08, 13:21
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    @wi-chan: Danke für die "correcturitos"! lol Heute ich bin sehr müde, und ich sehe jetzt dass 'bei der Arbeit' macht überhaupt kein Sinn, weil ich bin in Bayern und mann sagt öfter 'in der Arbeit' lol..meine Freunde von dem Norden macht um das immer Spaß mit meine bayrische Freunde: "Bist du drin oder was?"...etc lol

    @the kat: ja ich hab momentan 0 Punkte lol...

    @candice: I also found your intro gift nice

    @suziq und babs: danke für das Willkommen!
    #222Verfasser arizonadeux (448712) 30 Mai 08, 13:35
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    Welcome from me, too, arizonadeux!
    May I offer another few correcturitos:
    Ich hab dieses Forum gesehen und mich dann gerade registriert.


    Heute ich bin sehr müde, und ich sehe jetzt, dass 'bei der Arbeit' (macht) überhaupt keinen Sinn ergibt *), weil ich (bin) in Bayern bin und man(n) hier (sagt) öfter 'in der Arbeit' sagt lol..meine Freunde (von) aus dem Norden mach(t)en sich (um das) darüber immer (Spaß) lustig mit meine bayrischen Freunden:

    *) although one reads it more and more often in German that something "macht Sinn", I still find it not a German expression, but a translated English one.

    In Baden-Wuerttemberg, on is also "im Gschäft" which means in der /bei der/ auf Arbeit

    #223Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 30 Mai 08, 13:59
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    @Snowflake: I’m shocked. Not even on a churchyard in Switzerland one is safe from such idiots. I agree with the others. Make a noise to attract attention from other people around and walk away. Although, it’s a shame that one aktually has to walk away from a churchyard nowadays.

    Welcome to the new snails. Candice and arizonadeux, funny introductions. Special Thanks goes to you, Herbert. I’m going to call myself over the public address system right now. *g*

    Greetings to all other snail around and have a good weekend. I’m off.
    #224VerfasserWilliB (336037) 30 Mai 08, 14:12
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    @Goldammer: :D_anke! Ich bin dankbar für die Hilfe, weil ich habe kein mehr Deutsch-Vorlesungen. Muss übungen mit eurer Hilfe! :) "Macht Sinn" is something I've heard a lot in my workplace from older employees also.
    #225Verfasser arizonadeux (448712) 30 Mai 08, 14:15
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    @arizonadeux
    "Ich bin dankbar für die Hilfe, weil ich keine Deutschvorlesungen mehr habe. Ich muss mit eurer Hilfe üben."

    I'm confused. You have written: ....something I've heard a lot in my workplace from older employees also.
    I would have wirtten .... something I've heard a lot in my workplace from older employees, too.

    What's the difference?
    #226VerfasserWilliB (336037) 30 Mai 08, 14:21
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    @WilliB: Thanks. And, you have every right to be confused, because I should have wrote 'also' in the beginning of the sentence. I think 'also' implies something 'I have something in addition to your experience' and 'too' implies 'I had a similar experience.'

    Thus: "Macht Sinn" is something I've also heard a lot in my workplace from older employees.

    But either way, be aware that I have a problem with languages lol...the new ones frequently take grammatical bites out of the Muttersprache and infect it with their own grammatical viruses :)
    #227Verfasser arizonadeux (448712) 30 Mai 08, 14:50
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    @arizonadeux
    "Sinn machen" is an expression which is presently being incorporated from the English into the German language. I don't think there's a way of preventing that any more. But to me, it still sounds "wrong" and I have been critizising it for years. I will have to give up on that at some point, but stil I can't help commenting it.... ;-)
    #228Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 30 Mai 08, 16:11
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    I remember myself saying "das macht Sinn" even before I was able to speak a single English word. But then I'm Swiss. ;-)
    #229VerfasserWilliB (336037) 30 Mai 08, 16:35
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    @wi-chan (re: Playmobilfiguren) - um die eine Klasse nachzumachen, müsste ich die Figuren in einer Kiste stecken und schütteln!!! Unterwegs nach Hause bin ich mit dem Fahrrad an eine Gruppe vorbei gefahren und ich hörte: "Mach Platz für Frau S-Q" und dann gleich gezischt: "Ich hasse die Frau!" Ich dachte, es wäre besser, wenn ich mich nicht umdrehe...jetzt bin ich schon wieder die Hexe! *SchweißvomStirnwisch*
    #230Verfasser suziq (315879) 30 Mai 08, 17:31
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    @suziq

    Take it easy. There is always someone who hates whomsoever.
    Was nice to have you (pl!) had here.
    #231Verfasser judex (239096) 30 Mai 08, 17:48
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    Rund 30.000 Ampullen verlassen jedes Jahr die California Cryobank. Inhalt: Qualitativ hochwertiges Sperma. Es soll Frauen einen unerwünschten(sic!) Kinderwunsch erfüllen.
    This minute from spiegel-online. LOL
    #232Verfasser judex (239096) 30 Mai 08, 18:12
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    Hallöchen liebe Leutchen! :-)
    Was tut sich an der Leofront? Was gibt es neues?
    Möchte einen lieben Gruß hinterlassen! :-)
    #233VerfasserFujiApple (250126) 30 Mai 08, 18:38
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    Willi: Same with me. I have been using "das macht Sinn" for at least 13, 14 years now (since reading Sick I try to break that habit). So I think it is not exactly correct to say it is "presently" incorporated.

    Judex, and they are the one with the Hohlspiegel. Nice.

    Suzi, don't worry, you are the good witch of the North, if that's any help. ;-)
    #234Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 30 Mai 08, 19:04
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    @Sue
    Ich dachte mir du von den Kindern sehr beliebt..... Was ist da passiert????
    #235VerfasserFujiApple (250126) 30 Mai 08, 19:13
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    Der unsägliche antisemitische Missionar ist wieder da.
    Tschüß Leute!
    #236Verfasser judex (239096) 30 Mai 08, 19:22
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    Schönen guten Abend!

    hallo Arizonadeux, Candice und Ningün!

    Wie wuerde man auf Deutsch sagen; that does not make any sense??? Wir haben das so gelernt, wie ihr Muttersprachler das nicht sagen werdet d.h. das macht keinen Sinn.

    #237VerfasserMOTHER (383672) 30 Mai 08, 19:40
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    MOTHER, you could say:

    "Das hat keinen Sinn" or "das ist nicht sinnvoll" or "ich kann keinen Sinn darin sehen" or even "das ist Unsinn" or ... or ... or ... Dozens of alternatives.
    #238Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 30 Mai 08, 20:01
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    Hi Mother, eigentlich wenn man Deutsches TV guckt, hört man das sehr oft, vor allem unter den jüngeren Generationen...
    #239VerfasserFujiApple (250126) 30 Mai 08, 20:07
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    Danke wi-chan!

    Hallo FuziApple! Anscheinend hat Fernsehen auch welche Vorteile!

    Gute Nacht!
    #240VerfasserMOTHER (383672) 30 Mai 08, 20:13
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    Gute Nacht Mother.

    Darf ich dich fragen wie man auf Hindi "Gute Nacht" sagt?
    #241VerfasserFujiApple (250126) 30 Mai 08, 20:27
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    Shubh ratri!
    #242VerfasserMOTHER (383672) 30 Mai 08, 20:39
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    Ok, Shubh ratri, then! :-)
    #243VerfasserFujiApple (250126) 30 Mai 08, 20:43
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    Re "Sinn machen": I think the alternative would be "das ergibt keinen Sinn. But actually I too I've been using "Sinn machen" at least for ??? years and I don't think it's translated. A lot of Germans say it. We've had at least one discussion here in LEO about that as well. Anyhow, if it is translated, who cares? It's perfectly understandable, grammatically correct and language changes (and Change is God ;-), I've read that in a book once).

    @ Amy: Thanks for the offer, but it's not a problem to get it here cheaply, I'd only have to bid in time ;-). You didn't like it? Schade, the plot sounded interesting.

    @ judex: LOL! Mother Nature always finds a way to inforce a non-existing reproduction-instinct.
    #244Verfasserbabs (31738) 30 Mai 08, 23:03
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    Hello!
    As for "Sinn machen" --- it probably doesn't make much sense to say that it doesn't make sense with "machen", otherwise the English wouldn't make sense either. But I think it should better be avoided in German.
    Thought I could soon take off and go for the first time this year to the pool, but it is getting windier and windier. Dark clouds and no longer sunny. Tornado Watch and Severe Thunderstorm Warning. Miserable weather.
    #245Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 30 Mai 08, 23:21
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    Ach du Holger... Da känntest du zumndest hallo sagen ... :-( E tu Holger, Biologe meus!
    #246VerfasserNingün (448437) 30 Mai 08, 23:29
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    @Ningün --- Who are you? What is this cryptic comment supposed to mean?

    Now it is very dark, and the adjacent county has a Tornado Warning. And north of here there is a Flash Flood Warning. The NOAA forecast map is quite colorful.
    #247Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 31 Mai 08, 00:16
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    ... really pretty severe, this thunderstorm. Very heavy rain. Hopefully the thirteen-lined ground squirrel made it to an inundation-safe place.
    #248Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 31 Mai 08, 01:07
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    Hi Holger, alles klar bei dir?
    #249VerfasserFujiApple (250126) 31 Mai 08, 01:22
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    Hi, FujiApple. More or less.
    #250Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 31 Mai 08, 02:01
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    Schön zu hören...Was machen die Tornados bei euch?
    #251VerfasserFujiApple (250126) 31 Mai 08, 02:05
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    My county is still yellow on the NOAA map, but west and east of it two are red and have tornado warnings.
    #252Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 31 Mai 08, 02:08
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    Autsch...
    Na, ich hoffe dass nichts schlimmes passiert.

    Muss jetzt langsam Schluss machen.. Ich wünsche dir ein schönes Wochenende! Mach's gut! :-)
    #253VerfasserFujiApple (250126) 31 Mai 08, 02:16
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    At least the thunderstorm is over. Have a nice weekend, too!
    #254Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 31 Mai 08, 02:23
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    Glück Auf! snail

    I finished the Bill Bryson book "Mein Amerika" in less than two days.
    It was wonderful because it brought back so many memories of my childhood in America.
    It is so precise that I had the feeling that he is writing about me.
    The book is not "only" funny, it also has some statical and historical facts that are
    serious and worth to be remembered. That was just a little "intermezzo" now I will continue my excursion into the Russian literature. (o:

    NO thunderstorms in the Havelland, no rain that we really need, only hot and a little bit windy. We have to run the sprinkler all day long. Good that we have our own well just for the garden. Otherwise it would get very expensive.

    Hello to all the new snails !!!
    #255Verfasser Steve53 (329426) 31 Mai 08, 08:16
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    Good morning, snailings!
    Finally I find the time for writing a couple of lines here. I hope everyone is doing fine, and hello to the new participants (I'm quite a greenhorn myself).
    I seem to have missed a bit of your conversation, and actually I am too lazy to go through the last 100 posts.
    (Hey, I still don't smoke!)

    "Sinn machen": When I am watching my language I try to avoid this expression, too, but in my opinion it is one of the lesser sins of using Denglicisms. I'd say, let's fight the really ugly creations of marketing speak, and welcome the ones that can be assimilated. The fact that so few German speakers can recognize it as an English structure indicates that the expression *might have delopped in this form in German as well. (I'd never take it for an evidence, though.) It doesn't break grammar rules, there are no foreign phonemes involved, it is constructed of two perfectly German words. And if you tell me that "machen" is reserved for the production of a physical object only (like Wachtelkönig already said), I'd like to object: "Blödsinn machen".
    So what is wrong with just "adopting" it? Why not be proud about German being an immigration language? I don't think German language is in serious danger from expressions like "Sinn machen". (end of long blah.)

    Steve53, after you have been writing about Bryson with lots of care I will give his books a try. Is the language hard to read? I am always looking for good English books which are not too complicated, so I can share them with Frau S.

    Ningün, your nick sounds a bit like "nobody" in Rumantsch, but I'm not an expert of that enigmatic language.

    Snowflake, when on the churchyard, zombies are best fought off with holy water (actually it works even better with normal water, applied in large quantities at high pressure with a fire hose). Anyway, thanks for 'herzhaft' last week. I had known the dialektwoerter.ch site, but I don't know why it did not cross my mind to look it up there. Stupid me.

    A splendid weekend to all of you!
    #256VerfasserSilvapunkt (444726) 31 Mai 08, 12:27
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    Silva, I thought of you this morning, when the radio said that today is "Weltnichtrauchertag". They said that physical addiction only lasts about 24 hours, everything after that is the psychological effect. So you are on the right track, keep going!

    Oh, of course, Snowflake, the guy must have been a zombie, why did I not think of that? ;-) Or you could set him on fire, that is also said to work well against zombies!
    #257Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 31 Mai 08, 12:58
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    Did I dig this right, Silva. is fighting her nicotine addiction?
    If so, do it like I did, I stopped smoking from one minute to the other.
    And be STRONG SILVA. it is worth it. I stopped about 25 years ago.
    #258Verfasser Steve53 (329426) 31 Mai 08, 13:37
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    Almost, Steve. Only he is fighting his addiction.
    #259Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 31 Mai 08, 13:39
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    AHA Silva sounds so feminine. HAHA
    #260Verfasser Steve53 (329426) 31 Mai 08, 13:50
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    Yes, I thought of Silvapunkt as a woman until just then when he mentioned Frau S with whom he likes to share his English books...(gründlich lesen, lieber Steve!! :-P)

    Here it is starting to grumble with thunder again. We might have more rain quite soon. I think I'll retire on my Aldiliege in the garden and enjoy the last half hour of nice weather, listening to the little coal tits chirping in their nest box when the parents come feeding about every half minute (I made a statistic this morning, see birder thread!)
    #261Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 31 Mai 08, 13:59
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    We have not a single cloud in the sky and it is awfully hot here.
    No chance of rain for us that we really need.
    #262Verfasser Steve53 (329426) 31 Mai 08, 14:27
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    Goldammer me too, birder thread!!!
    #263Verfasser Steve53 (329426) 31 Mai 08, 14:29
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    I could start basteling, if you like ...
    #264Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 31 Mai 08, 15:38
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    Hi everybody out there: long time no see - err, no write...

    #202:tx neuchateloise for sending us your "English showers" :-(
    Well, actually, it was rather good to have some rain now, at least where I live, which is in the south of Bavaria - deep down south :-)

    I hope you don´t mind me taking up the topic of "Sinn machen" again: I have never thought of that expression as of an anglicism; to me it has always seemed to be typical for northerners who also say things like "Spaß bringen". I would use expressions like "Das (er)gibt keinen Sinn", "Das ist sinnlos", "Es hat keinen Sinn" or the like.

    It seems to me that some of you are quite interested in books. So am I. I´m just reading Benjamin Zephaniah´s "Teacher´s Dead", which I consider to be quite thought-provoking (I wonder what made me choose a book with a title like that in the first place...;-)) and have just finished David Mitchell´s "Black Swan Green". Does anyone of you know these books by any chance?

    One last question: there must be quite a few of you around who live in the same area - is that right?

    OK, I really have to go back to work now, have a nice weekend,y´all(:-)
    #265Verfasser candice (447114) 31 Mai 08, 16:12
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    Steve, Goldammer: Mentionning a certain Frau S. would not entirely remove all doubts about being male, would it? Just for the record, I am. (Think of the Silver Bullet instead of Silvapunkt if you want to attach the nick to a more masculine image.)

    After eight days I can tell you that it will take a little longer for me than 24 hours, having smoked 2-3 packages a day. Well, I did not exactly scrape the wallpaper off the first days, but it felt rather strange. I'm missing all the small breaks I used to allow myself during work. *shrug* pah, it's nothing. ;-)

    Did you get ahead with your Italian book, wi-chan?
    #266VerfasserSilvapunkt (444726) 31 Mai 08, 16:20
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    I scanned and copied a few pages that might come in useful, then brought it back to the library, and good riddance. Haven't looked at those pages ever since, rather busying myself with other (German) books on the subject that are, unfortunately, less concrete and to-the-point.

    Oh, maybe I did not make it clear: The physical effects should vanish after the first day. Missing small breaks is rather a psychological effect, isn't it? I was just about to suggest chocolate breaks (you are in Switzerland, after all), but that could trigger another danger: Eating too much as a replacement, and gaining weight.

    About that new thread, I started the Highlight collection ... Any minute now.
    #267Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 31 Mai 08, 16:31
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    May I invite you to our new home?
    #268Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 31 Mai 08, 16:44
     
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