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    Frisia or Friesland

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    Can anyone tell me the origin of the word Frisia. How did the word originate?
    Thanks.
    VerfasserBobbie B27 Okt. 03, 16:45
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    It's from Latin: The Romans called the Frisians "Frisii" (that is plural, i.e. literally "die Friesen"). According to the Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology, the Old Frisian name "Frisa" / "Fresa" then entered into Old English unchanged. The "-ian" part is also from Latin, going back to "-ianus", compare christian, barbarian, equestrian.
    #1VerfasserNorbert Juffa27 Okt. 03, 17:06
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    What does the Latin word 'Frisii' or Friesen mean. It refers to the people but why were they call that? Thanks for your help.
    #2VerfasserBB27 Okt. 03, 17:32
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    The etymology of Engl. "Frisia" or German "Friesen" seems to be uncertain. Some refer to an Germanic adjectiv "fris", meaning curly, others argue for an non-Germanic origin of the term
    Cf. http://www.koeblergerhard.de/afrieswbhinw.html (in German)

    #3VerfasserPA27 Okt. 03, 17:39
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    @BB: The Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology traces "Frisian" back to Latin "Frisii", but no further. In addition, I checked an extensive Latin-German dictionary, which also gives no further information about the origin of "Frisii".

    I am not familiar with the conventions the Romans used when naming to foreign peoples. I think it is possible that they used reasonably close approximations to the terms with which these people referred to themselves, or how neighboring tribes/people referred to them.
    #4VerfasserNorbert Juffa27 Okt. 03, 20:53
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    Trübners Deutsches Wörterbuch (1940) ascribes the origin of "Frisii" to the old-frisian word "frisle", meaning the curly hair which was typical for this tribe.
    #5VerfasserarbeD27 Okt. 03, 21:38
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    The word "frizzy" in English means tightly curled, and is often used to describe hair, but no dictionary I have can confirm a connection with Frisii. Merely a startling coincidence?
    #6VerfasserPeter <us>28 Okt. 03, 08:29
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    @Peter <us>: The Oxford Dictionary of Etymology has entries for friz(z) and frizzle. The first one is traced back to French "friser", perhaps from "fris-", stem of "frire" fry. For the second, no origin has been established with certainty. It might be derived from friz(z). The entry continues: "similar Frisian forms such as 'frisle' head of hair, 'friselen' plait, are doubfully related; perhaps from Old French 'freselé' plaited".
    #7VerfasserNorbert Juffa28 Okt. 03, 19:21
     
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