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    Wenn ich mich recht erinnere

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    Wenn ich mich recht erinnere

    Kommentar
    A Leo poll. This has come up in a concurrent thread. There are various versions (in the English), but stick to these two.

    Please just #1 or #2. And mark BE or AE. Pretty please.

    #1: If I remember rightly
    #2: If I remember right

    Voting commences now.
    Verfasseropine (680211) 02 Aug. 10, 12:30
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    So "correctly" keine Option ist, entscheide ich mich für #1.
    #1VerfasserJohn Galt02 Aug. 10, 12:37
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    #1
    BE
    #2Verfassertomtom02 Aug. 10, 12:40
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    #1 BE
    #3VerfasserSteve UK02 Aug. 10, 12:46
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    Ich bin für "Wenn ich mich recht entsinne" oder "Wenn ich mich richtig erinnere".

    "Wenn ich mich recht erinnere" scheint mir eine Verquickung von beidem zu sein. Das würde ich jedenfalls nicht schreiben.
    #4Verfasser Nikolas (253620) 02 Aug. 10, 12:46
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    (OT: That's a valid point Nikolas. Maybe: "Wenn ich mich richtig daran errinere ..." Or has that fallen by the wayside?)

    On-topic! Vote, text. What's correct in your opinion: right or rightly.

    Thanks thus far.
    #5Verfasseropine (680211) 02 Aug. 10, 13:01
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    #1
    #6Verfasser Carly-AE (237428) 02 Aug. 10, 13:04
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    Okay, before the thread dies:

    4 votes for "rightly"
    1 vote for "right" (me)

    (Nikolas makes a good point, but wasn't technically a vote.)

    So "rightly". I would not use that in AE.

    Appreciate!
    #7Verfasseropine (680211) 02 Aug. 10, 13:49
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    opine, On the same "principle" would you then say: If I remember correct???
    #8Verfasser Carly-AE (237428) 02 Aug. 10, 14:04
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    #1 - BE
    Und was #4 sagt.
    #9Verfasser Lady Grey (235863) 02 Aug. 10, 14:07
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    Darnit ladygrey^^:
    5 for rightly
    1 for right
    (but yeah, #4 makes a great point, no?)

    #8. I'd say these:
    -- IIRC
    -- If I recall correctly
    -- If I remember correctly
    -- If I remember right (IIRR)

    I would not say "rightly". My tongue goes "yuck". AE
    #10Verfasseropine (680211) 02 Aug. 10, 14:34
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    Another vote for "rightly"
    #11VerfasserUKer02 Aug. 10, 14:39
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    Nothing wrong with #2 in AE.
    #12Verfasser dude (253248) 02 Aug. 10, 15:00
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    #2

    But, I prefer "if I remember correctly" over either of those two options :o)
    #13Verfasser Lara Chu (AmE) (236716) 02 Aug. 10, 15:06
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    me too. :-)
    #14Verfasser dude (253248) 02 Aug. 10, 15:07
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    almost #2 BE

    I'd say "If I remember it right". "Rightly" perhaps if I wanted to be formal. "Correctly" is not something I'd say, though that is probably just me.

    "Right" can also be used as an adverb - even the dictionaries agree :-)

    right
    adverb
    2. correctly: he had guessed right.
    • in the required or necessary way; satisfactorily: nothing's going right for me this season.
    http://dws-sketch.uk.oup.com/cgi-bin/onlineOd...
    #15VerfasserCM2DD (236324) 02 Aug. 10, 15:07
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    This is all in reference to a parallel thread:

    The choices are:
    #1: If I remember rightly
    #2: If I remember right

    See my #0.

    The task is respond/vote, and state AE vs. BE.

    (I fear this is getting lost between the pond, in the Bermuda Triangle.)
    #16Verfasseropine (680211) 02 Aug. 10, 15:19
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    So, everyone, no alternatives, no discussion, no humming and hawing, no irrelevant information, get straight to the point. Take a typical contribution by opine as your example.
    #17VerfasserCM2DD (236324) 02 Aug. 10, 15:37
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    huh?
    #18Verfasser dude (253248) 02 Aug. 10, 15:39
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    I must have forgotten to mention that I'm AE ;o)
    #19Verfasser Lara Chu (AmE) (236716) 02 Aug. 10, 15:40
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    No, I think I was clear in the OP. I wanted to take a language poll:
    -- If I remember rightly (#1)
    -- If I remember right (#2)

    I wanted people to state whether they are AE or BE while voting for #1, or #2.

    (For the German: Wenn ich mich recht errinere ... which was in a parallel thread.)

    I'm sorry though if I've caused confusion here. Not intended.
    #20Verfasseropine (680211) 02 Aug. 10, 15:58
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    #1 and BE
    Although "he had guessed right" sounds fine to me.

    (lol @ CM2DD, #17)
    #21Verfasserbevalisch02 Aug. 10, 16:18
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    b. right (ugs. AE)

    ... though see #4. And #10b; I don't think I would actually say this at all, I'd say 'correctly.'

    Off the top of my head, I can't think of any occasion when I would ever feel the need to use 'rightly' at all.
    #22Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 02 Aug. 10, 18:21
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    hm -- us, be that as it may, "if I remember rightly" is still the idiomatic British expression ....
    #23Verfasser penguin (236245) 02 Aug. 10, 18:26
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    OT (?), re #22: Off the top of my head, I can't think of any occasion when I would ever feel the need to use 'rightly' at all.

    Does that mean you wouldn't use e.g. "quite rightly" either?
    #24VerfasserKinkyAfro (587241) 02 Aug. 10, 18:31
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    FWIW Google gets 436 hits on site:uk for "if I remember rightly", 433 for "if I remember right", and 438 for "if I remember correctly" (always clicking through to the last page of results, not the figure on the first page). Just 104 for "if I remember it right" and 49 for "if I remember it rightly" so I'm clearly in a minority in preferring it with the "it" :-)
    #25VerfasserCM2DD (236324) 02 Aug. 10, 18:35
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    @22 Und was wäre mit "and rightly so"? Oder ist das BE?
    #26VerfasserBeel02 Aug. 10, 18:42
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    I wasn't saying anything about BE usage; it seemed already pretty clear that it's different on this point, which I assumed was the reason for the original question.

    No, I wouldn't use 'quite rightly' either. In general, we don't use 'quite' as much in AE. At least, not in that emphatic sense; we use it in senses like 'not quite (as much).'

    'Rightly so,' well, maybe, as more of a fixed and rather formal phrase.


    #27Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 02 Aug. 10, 19:53
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    AE:
    Between the two choices, I would pick #2.

    However, I would generally say "If I remember correctly."

    I am guessing that some self-styled (or even actual) grammarians might object to right, based on it's being an apparent adverb. I, however, would generally think that "right" relates to the thing remembered (is it right, the thing I remember?) - and not to the act of remembering (is the remembering function of my brain working correctly?). So I don't think of "right" as wrong here.

    "Rightly" just sounds awkward and stilted.
    #28Verfasser svaihingen (705121) 02 Aug. 10, 20:10
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    #1 (BE)

    Was the question "Which version contains more letters?"?
    #29VerfasserMikeE (236602) 02 Aug. 10, 20:46
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    #2 right (AE)
    #30Verfasser Martin--cal (272273) 02 Aug. 10, 21:21
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    THANKS!

    The tally, if I got it right was:

    8 people for #1 (mostly BE) = rightly
    7 people for #2 (mostly AE) = right

    Thanks for the research CM2DD (google) and contributions and the cute comment!^^
    I counted you as a vote for #2, according to what you wrote.

    So, it seems divided down BE/AE lines. Just wanted to see. Appreciate again.
    Interesting input also on the topic of what one would say. In the context,
    I'd also personally use "correctly".

    (EDIT: I have a bad feeling I misused "mostly" above, but that's another topic.)
    #31Verfasseropine (680211) 03 Aug. 10, 05:20
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    I was wondering what other examples there are in British or American English) of "rightly" used in this sense in final position? By "in this sense" I mean "in accordance with facts" rather than "in accordance with accepted behaviour" (e.g. "acted rightly").

    Though I might say "if I remember rightly" (though I would prefer "correctly"), I don't think I would say "He guessed rightly."
    #32VerfasserMikeE (236602) 03 Aug. 10, 08:29
     
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