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    hohe schuhe

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    The context is a list of clothes that the Nazis confiscated from Jews before deporting them to the KZs.

    I have "hohe damenschuhe" and "hohe Herrenschuhe." Are these simply what we in the US would call boots?


    Thanks!

    Verfasserbluehat18 Sep. 08, 11:07
    Vorschlaghigh-heeled shoes
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    I'd say.
    #1Verfasser Dragon (238202) 18 Sep. 08, 11:12
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    High heels für Männer?

    Ich glaube eher, dass es sich um "Boots" handelt, wie bluehat schon vermutet.
    #2VerfasserHilke18 Sep. 08, 11:14
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    to me its a little ambigious

    could mean that the bootleg was a little higher, or in older german it could also mean something like rather high quality shoes that are collected to resell them....
    #3Verfassertante pu18 Sep. 08, 11:16
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    I think so too, high-heeled would be "hochhackige Schuhe" oder "Schuhe mit hohem Absatz", oder?
    #4Verfasser the kat (387522) 18 Sep. 08, 11:16
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    (#4 refers to #2, sorry... )
    #5Verfasser the kat (387522) 18 Sep. 08, 11:17
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    http://books.google.de/books?id=OM8qpZNByxcC...
    "suche ein paar hohe Herrenschuhe oder Stiefel..."
    (here contrasted with long boots)

    http://www.zeit.de/1954/47/Besuch-im-Krakau-d...
    "Ein Anzug kostet 700, hohe Herrenschuhe 650 bis 850, Halbschuhe 250 bis 300 und guter Wollstoff 300 bis 500 Zloty"

    (here compared to Halbschuhe)
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    To me, the high in women's shoes refers to the soles, and in men's shoes it refers to the shoe leather.
    I imagine ankle boots rather than knee-high boots or riding boots.
    #6Verfasserspinatwachtel18 Sep. 08, 11:17
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    I don't know about the reselling of the shoes but maybe the purpose was that one could hide things easier (knife,weapon) in a higher designed "granni shoe" or mens ankle high/boot or converse pro ;-) And to the orig. question "boot" may be the wrong word. This would make it sound like all the jewish woman wore army boots.
    #7Verfassercobblestone18 Sep. 08, 11:27
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    no cobblestone, for example in vistorian times, high-shafted women's shoes were called boots as well.
    #8Verfasser the kat (387522) 18 Sep. 08, 11:31
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    viCtorian... argh.
    #9Verfasser the kat (387522) 18 Sep. 08, 11:32
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    @the kat

    Oh, didn't know that.

    Is that where the "your mother/grandma wears army boots" came from ,-)
    #10Verfassercobblestone18 Sep. 08, 11:35
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    #11Verfassermito18 Sep. 08, 11:41
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    Not just in Victorian times; I still buy boots, and they aren't army ones! http://www.marksandspencer.com/gp/search/202-...
    If the two words are together, and "hohe Herrenschuhe" refers to boots (sounds likely to me) isn't it probable that the "hohe Damenschuhe" refers to the length of the boots here, too? Perhaps the number confiscated might help, as most of the women at that time would have had boots, and fewer of them would probably have worn high-heeled shoes (even sensible ones).
    #12Verfasser CM2DD (236324) 18 Sep. 08, 11:44
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    Thanks, perhaps ankle boots is the best solution. I doubt they are higher than this, at least for the men (what Jewish men were walking around in knee-high boots in the early 1940s?).

    #13Verfasserbluehat18 Sep. 08, 11:45
     
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