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    ca. 150 mm
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    Do you use ca. in English for measurements? (I've seen it with dates)
    AuthorSteffB (242743) 20 Nov 12, 20:45
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    controlled atmosphere [abbr.: CA]kontrollierte Atmosphäre
    circa [abbr.: ca, ca., c., c, cir., circ.]  prep.   - used with historic datescirca   or: zirka [abbr.: ca.]  adv.
    cum [sl.] [vulg.]die Wichse  pl. [sl.] [vulg.]   - Sperma
    gallery-cum-eatery [coll.]die Kunstkneipe  pl.: die Kunstkneipen
    cum rights [FINAN.]mit Bezugsrecht
    cum rights [FINAN.]einschließlich Bezugsrechte
    for four people you should plan on about two pounds of meat [COOK.]für vier Personen rechnet man mit ca. zwei Pfund Fleisch
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    No.
    As is clear from the LEO entries:
    Dictionary: circa
    And there are already several discussions in the archives.
    #1Author Marianne (BE) (237471) 20 Nov 12, 20:49
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    I agree with Marianne 100% (in spite of what most translators -- or at least those whose works I proofread -- seem to think.)
    #2Author hbberlin (420040) 21 Nov 12, 17:36
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    A.E. here...

    With measurements it seems to me we use approx. far more often than ca.

    ca., on the other hand, is commonly seen with historic dates, for instance:

    This necklace dates to ca. 500 B.C.

    In speech one would most likely use around, about or approximately with dates.
    A museum guide or scientist would be more like to say circa.

    It is sometimes the case that even if one reads ca. 500 B.C. in writing, he will read this aloud as approximately 500 B.C..

    For temperature, weight, length and it seems most everything else, one would rarely use circa at all. It's rather technical sounding and pretty much reserved for historians, archeologists and the like who do things like carbon dating of objects and events. Even the measurement of time spans, except for in these fields, is usually stated with approx. or approximately. One might see ca. 0.5 milliseconds but more likely approx. 0.5 milliseconds.

    I wouldn't say, for instance, "The race lasted circa 15 minutes."
    or:

    "This piece of wood is circa two and a half inches long." ....Nope.
    Approximately or about or sometimes around.


    Remember that circa is still a foreign word to English speakers, so its literal meaning is obscure to many. For instance, few people would think to connect circa to circus or, for that matter, even circus to circle and eventually wind up with round and around. Same with circumstance and circumstantial. Few would see into this word as easily as Germans do with Umstand and umständlich.
    There are many similar examples because so many English words use prefixes which aren't native to English and are never used as freestanding prepositions, so their meanings remain fairly obscure to probably most except for those who bother with language study.
    #3AuthormikeS (366927) 21 Nov 12, 19:12
    Suggestionapprox. /abt.
    #4AuthorScotland_99 (810514) 21 Nov 12, 23:54
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    Thx!
    #5AuthorSteffB (242743) 21 Nov 12, 23:59
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    Mikestorer is right on. Good explanation.

    As for "abt." as an abbreviation for "about": I'd hazard to say that such an abbreviation should usually be avoided because it is not particularly common.
    #6Author hbberlin (420040) 22 Nov 12, 11:32
     
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