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    Schräglage (beim Motorrad)

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    Man fährt ein Motorrad um die Kurve, indem man es in Schräglage bringt.
    Kommentar
    Nimmt man da auch den Begriff "to bank" wie beim Flieger?

    Danke und Gruß
    thziege
    Verfasserthziege02 Apr. 07, 13:00
    Vorschlaglean angle
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    A Halrey-Davidson FXDR has a lean angle of 31 derees, for instance.
    #1Verfasserdude02 Apr. 07, 14:15
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    Harley, not Halrey, of course
    #2Verfasserdude02 Apr. 07, 14:16
    Vorschlagbanking
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    I was still half asleep when I gave you the previous answer. Now, after a cup of java, I realize that wasn't what you were asking. Banking it is.
    #3Verfasser dude (253248) 02 Apr. 07, 14:35
    VorschlagLean angle
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    Okay, thanks, dude.

    What is then meant by lean angle? Is it the angle when parking a motorcycle on the side stand?
    #4Verfasserthziege02 Apr. 07, 14:57
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    no, lean angle tells you in degrees the angle a motorycle is leaning in a turn

    Assuming a flat surface and no skidding, the lean angle of the motorcycle is related to it's speed and the cornering radius as follows:

    theta = arctan ( V*V / r*g)

    Where g is the gravitational constant.

    Now, I think you can also show that the turning radius is related to speed and lateral acceleration as:

    r = V*V / a

    where a is the lateral acceleration.

    Substitute r in the above and you get:

    theta = arctan (a/g)

    So to pull 1.0 g, then you need to be turning at a 45 degree lean angle. This is the theoretical limit assuming tires can't achieve coefficients of friction greater than 1.0.
    #5Verfasser dude (253248) 02 Apr. 07, 15:00
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    In the UK we would say "lean (the bike) into the curve". I would tend to associate "banking" with aircraft.
    #6VerfasserB. Sheen02 Apr. 07, 15:03
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    To get around a corner, a motorcycle must be put into a lean angle.
    To get around a corner, a motorcycle must be banked.

    Correct?
    Kommentar
    Hm, dude, from what you wrote now, lean angle and bank seems to be the same to me.

    Guess the Harley would start scratching the road surface with something when leaning to hard caused by too high speed. Correct?

    Thanks
    thziege
    #7Verfasserthziege02 Apr. 07, 15:30
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    incline springs to mind... a lean angle requires a sensible diet...
    #8Verfassernoli02 Apr. 07, 15:33
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    @thziege: that depends on the Harley model. Something with floorboards (like an Ultra Classic) obviously would touch the ground much sooner than, say, a Sportster or a Dyna (besides being too top heavy for low angles to begin with).

    Also, I s'pose lean angle and banking are interchangeable in theory, might just depend on how each one's used.
    #9Verfasserdude02 Apr. 07, 16:37
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    Alright, dude, thank you very much for your help!

    #10Verfasserthziege03 Apr. 07, 09:58
     
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