oder du sagst: in two weeks

"The week after next" wäre üblicher.

(allerdings amerikanisch): "the week after next" (ohne zweites "the")

... ist auch in Großbritannien üblich.

Leo bietet als Übersetzung für "der Übernächste" auch an: "the next but one".

Kann man auch sagen: "The next week but one" oder "The next but one week"?

>>The next week but one

Yes, theoretically; it's grammatically possible. But it's not very idiomatic; in AE at least, I don't think anyone would say it. (But we don't really say 'the next but one' in AE at all.)


>>The next but one week

No, I don't think so.

@hm --us: So you wouldn't say "They live in the next house but one" (Sie wohnen im übernächsten Haus). How would you put this, then?

I (AE) am not familiar at all with the use of "but one" in this context. It may be BE, but if you go with "after next" you will surely be understood on both sides of the Atlantic.

As for houses, we would say, "They live two houses away" rather than "in the house after the next"

I (AE) am not familiar at all with the use of "but one" in this context. It may be BE, but if you go with "after next" you will surely be understood on both sides of the Atlantic.

As for houses, we would say, "They live two houses away" rather than "in the house after the next"

sorry for the double posting....

I see. „Sie müssen bei der übernächsten Haltestelle aussteigen“ would then be in AE „You must get off two stops away“, right?

ooh- this is really hard

you must get off two stops away is OK

I would say "you must get off at the stop after next", though

My only explanation is that weeks and tram stops are more in series than houses are. One week will automatically lead to the next, as one stop leads to the next when you stay on the train. Houses, on the on other hand, just happen to exist next to each other but don't have a temporal relation.

REALLY the best for houses is the vernacular "two doors down"

It's not next Monday/week, it's the one after that
Get out not at the next stop, but the one after that
They don't live next door, they live in the house next to that
They live in the second house down
They live two doors/houses down/away

Sorry, they're just not all the same.

Yes, I have the feeling 'the next/last ... but one' is mainly BE.

What about "You must get off at the second stop beyond this"?

würde jeder verstehen, würde kein Muttersprachler sagen

Das will mir nicht ganz in den Kopf:

They live in the second house down = idiomatic (see #12)
You must get off at the second stop = not idiomatic

Wie kann das sein?

Your other examples were not simply "you must get off at the second stop" but you added "away" or "beyond this"-- that is the difference

"you must get off at the second stop" is indeed idiomatic but means "Du musst an der zweiten Haltestelle aussteigen"- that is different than "the stop after next" and can be used for example to give instructions to someone in your living room about how they are going to get somewhere tomorrow. "The stop after next" is used when you are already in the progression of travel and highlights the serial nature (see my entry #11)

When you are referring to nouns (weeks, stops) that exist in a natural series, use the "after next" construction. When you are referring to nouns that don't have a serial relationship to each other (houses, tables, seats), use the "two down/away" construction. If you are on tour of a number of different houses, on the other hand, you could certainly say, "the house after next is the largest one we will see". Has to do with whether the things are IN SERIES (as houses on a tour would be) or merely located next to each other.

Remember, "next" = nächste but "next to" = neben, maybe that will help.

That is the best I can do--as native speakers we do this "aus'm Bauch" and it is really hard to codify....

I'd say these are pretty clear-cut guidelines for non-native speakers (if that's "aus'm Bauch" I'm wondering what spills out of your brains :-).

However, I'd use "Du musst an der zweiten Haltestelle aussteigen" in German even while travelling on the bus (not any different from "übernächsten Haltestelle"). So this is tricky when in English there's a difference in the circumstances of use.

Well, a lot of this is situational and in all of the examples you gave it would be clear what you meant even if it would not be the first choice for a native speaker-