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    verschieden - different in or between

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    verschieden - different in or between

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    The colour was not significantly different in controls and experimentals.
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    This is the sentence I would like to write properly. It is driving me crazy, I am getting those ... manuscripts to look through and by now don't have a clue anymore what is right and what is wrong.
    AuthorAnnaka (453676) 25 Jul 08, 16:38
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    The colour was not significantly different in controls and experiments.
    #1Author maxxpf (361343) 25 Jul 08, 16:40
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    Thanks maxxpf.Experimentals was some slang, sorry for that.

    Now, would only IN be correct or also BETWEEN?
    #2AuthorAnnaka (453676) 25 Jul 08, 16:57
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    If you say BETWEEN controls and experiments I would understand that the controls and the experiments didn't differ, therefore IN is correct.

    #3Authordas kleine Kätzchen25 Jul 08, 17:01
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    @3: Danke, aber es soll eben heissen, dass sie NICHT unterschiedlich sind.
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    I guess I need some mother tongues for this. It would be helpful since I need it frequently.

    Here some more from the manuscript:

    They were significantly different from the others.

    The colour was significantly different in animals with mediated pigments than equivalently pigmented ones.

    The colour was not significantly different in experimental animals with their respective controls.

    The colour of animals A was significantly different than that of animals B.
    #4AuthorAnnaka (453676) 25 Jul 08, 17:10
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    Do you have the German version? I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
    #5Authordude25 Jul 08, 17:20
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    Your version is corect:

    difference ... between:
    There was no sig. color difference between control and exp.

    color was
    different/blue/cold/... in :
    The colour was not significantly different in controls and experimentals.
    #6Author wor (335727) 25 Jul 08, 17:31
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    And correct would be correcter than corect :-/
    #7Author wor (335727) 25 Jul 08, 17:32
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    1) They were significantly different from the others.
    Sie waren signifikant unterschiedlich von den anderen.

    2) The colour was significantly different in animals with spots than equivalently tainted controls
    Die Farbe war signifikant unterschiedlich zwischen Tieren mit Tupfen und entsprechend gefaerbten Kontrollen.

    3) The colour was not significantly different in experimental animals with their respective controls.
    Die Farbe war nicht signifikant unterschiedlich zwischen exp. Tieren und ihren jeweiligen Kontrollen.

    4) The colour of animals A was significantly different than that of animals B.
    Die Farbe der Tiere A war signifikant unterschiedlich von der der Tiere B.


    (Sorry about the pigment stuff in 2) earlier. I just needed to change the text to something else so that the actual author wouldn't be able to recognize it.)
    #8AuthorAnnaka (453676) 25 Jul 08, 17:34
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    4- (analog zu 1) different from that ....
    #9Author wor (335727) 25 Jul 08, 17:37
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    Mein Vorschlag:

    1) They differed significantly from the others.
    Sie waren signifikant unterschiedlich von den anderen.

    2) The colour in animals with spots differed significantly from correspondingly tainted controls
    Die Farbe war signifikant unterschiedlich zwischen Tieren mit Tupfen und entsprechend gefaerbten Kontrollen.

    3) The colour in experimental animals was not significantly different from their respective controls.
    Die Farbe war nicht signifikant unterschiedlich zwischen exp. Tieren und ihren jeweiligen Kontrollen.

    4) The colour of animals A was significantly different from that of animals B.
    Die Farbe der Tiere A war signifikant unterschiedlich von der der Tiere B.

    #10Authordude25 Jul 08, 17:38
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    @wor:
    Thanks for your help. I only found it after posting 8.
    So it would be

    - a difference between control animals and experimental animals
    and
    - something is different in control animals and experimental animals.

    There are no constructions with difference/different possible at all using from or than? (Just to make sure, and I will ban them from my brain forever and ever and ever)
    #11AuthorAnnaka (453676) 25 Jul 08, 17:40
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    @dude:
    Also many thanks.
    #12AuthorAnnaka (453676) 25 Jul 08, 17:43
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    The control animals are different from the exp. animals.
    but (like above)
    Some attribute (of the animals) is different in A animals and B animals.
    #13Author wor (335727) 25 Jul 08, 17:44
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    Now I would like to know what "Kontrollen" are in this context.

    Dude's suggestions are OK. :-))
    #14Author Helmi (U.S.) (236620) 25 Jul 08, 17:44
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    Kontrollen: here the control group (animals) or generally control experiments
    #15Author wor (335727) 25 Jul 08, 17:51
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    @ wor, nice try, but I still don't get it. It must be a little more complicated than simply "control." :-))
    #16Author Helmi (U.S.) (236620) 25 Jul 08, 17:56
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    @14: Hi Helmi.
    (I always wondered whether this is your real name since we always considered our neighbor the only bearer of it...)

    Kontrollen would be the 'standard', what you compare to. Often this would be untreated or sham treated animals. But this is a question that leads deeply into statistics and philosophy (and biology, medicine etc). And forget the colour stuff, it is just an attribute that I made up.

    And sorry for pestering: Since we have to add one sentence like this to the other, I would like to know ALL grammarwise correct versions.

    So, these are right, you say:
    A differed significantly from B.
    A was significantly different from B.

    What about these?
    - a difference between A and B

    - a difference in A and B

    - an attribute is different in A and B.

    - an attribute is different between A and B.

    #17AuthorAnnaka (453676) 25 Jul 08, 17:58
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    The controls show no sign of catching up and seem to have stabilized around 75 percent.
    Comment
    At least one little quote at the end of the week.
    For now, have a nice weekend. I'm out! :-)))))))))))))
    #18Author wor (335727) 25 Jul 08, 18:03
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    @ Annaka, there are more than one. When I wanted to put my name on the New York state vanity license plate I couldn't, because somebody else already had it. :-))
    #19Author Helmi (U.S.) (236620) 25 Jul 08, 18:11
     
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