Context/ examples | DWDS: berẹden, beredete, hat beredet umg. 1. etw. eingehend mit jmdm. besprechen, sich mit jmdm. über etw. beraten: sag ihm, wir würden den Fall bereden A. Zweig Grischa 292; die Freunde beredeten sich (miteinander) lange und eingehend; Werde mich über dieses mit der Frau Rittmeistern noch des weiteren bereden Raabe III 1,591 2. abfällig über jmdn., etw. reden: die Klatschbasen beredeten das junge Paar 3. jmdn. durch eindringliches, gewandtes Reden veranlassen, etw. zu tun, jmdn. zu etw. überreden: er ließ sich leicht b. dazubleiben; eindringlich versuchte die Jugendleiterin ihn zu überzeugen, ihn wenigstens zu bereden, ihren Standpunkt zu verstehen Bredel Söhne 22; wir haben ihn zu diesem Schritt beredet
BERTELSMANN Wörterbuch * be|re|den [V.2, hat beredet; mit Akk.] 1 etwas b. besprechen, über etwas sprechen; einen Plan, ein Vorhaben b.; einen Vorfall b.; sich mit jmdm. b. [ugs., eigtl.] etwas miteinander b. etwas miteinander besprechen 2 jmdn. b. überreden; wir haben ihn beredet mitzukommen
M-W: ar·gue verb ar·guedar·gu·ing intransitive verb 1: to give reasons for or against something : reason argue for a new policy 2: to contend or disagree in words : dispute argue about money transitive verb 1: to give evidence of : indicate the facts argue his innocence 2: to consider the pros and cons of : discuss argue an issue 3: to prove or try to prove by giving reasons : maintain asking for a chance to argue his case 4: to persuade by giving reasons : induce couldn't argue her out of going
OALD: argue verb 1 [intransitive] to speak angrily to somebody because you disagree with them My brothers are always arguing. He's offering to pay so who am I to argue? argue (with somebody) (about/over something) We're always arguing with each other about money. argue with somebody I don't want to argue with you—just do it! 2 [intransitive, transitive] to give reasons why you think that something is right/wrong, true/not true, etc, especially to persuade people that you are right argue for/against something/doing something They argued for the right to strike. argue something She argued the case for bringing back the death penalty. He was too tired to argue the point (= discuss the matter). a well-argued article argue that… He argued that they needed more time to finish the project. It could be argued that laws are made by and for men. 3 [transitive] argue something (formal) to show clearly that something exists or is true These latest developments argue a change in government policy.
Phrasal verbs argue somebody into/out of doing something to persuade somebody to do/not do something by giving them reasons They argued him into withdrawing his complaint. |
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Comment | I see two meanings that might match remotely:
1) M-W 2 (no equivalent entry in OALD, CALD, Chambers, Longman, Macmillan, AHD, Encarta) and DWDS 1, Bertelsmann 1. However, I don't find "to consider the pros and cons of" a convincing translation of "besprechen, über etwas sprechen", in particular as only one English dictionary gives this definition at all.
2) M-W 4, OALD phrasal entry and DWDS 3, Bertelsmann 2. This would have to be a phrasal entry: argue so. into doing sth. [Brit.] -- jmdn. zu etw. bereden [dated] This use of bereden looks very old-fashioned: dated.
I support the notion that the current entry is wrong. |
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