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# plot - graphische Darstellung

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plot
4 a graph showing the relation between two variables.
chiefly US a diagram, chart, or map.

plot 5
drawing American English a drawing that shows the plan of a building at ground level [= ground plan] http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/plot_1

plot 5
: a graphic representation (as a chart)
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/plot
VerfasserCM2DD (236324) 31 Aug. 11, 11:54
Kommentar Interessant. Gilt das auch für das Verb "to plot" (im Sinne von Daten auftragen, etw. graphisch darstellen)?
Kommentar #1 No, just the noun. You can plot data on a graph in BE too.
Kommentar Sorry if I'm being a bit dense, CM2DD, but can you just clarify?You're not objecting to plot=graph=graphische Darstellung in the narrower sense being OK in BE, are you? Just to "plot" not being used in BE for graphische Darstellung in the wider sense of diagram, chart, map. Right?
Kontext/ Beispiele plot3.Military a graphic representation of an individual or tactical setting that pinpoints an artillery target.4.Chiefly U.S. a diagram or plan, especially a surveyor's map.Collins English Dictionary, © HarperCollins Publishers 2000 #3 I don't know what the narrower sense of "plot" might be, or if it accords with any meaning of "graphische Darstellung". This may well just display my ignorance of mathematical terms, but I did check it with the dictionaries, and the only meanings I was able to find for "plot" that fit in with my understanding of "graphische Darstellung" are marked AE in the dictionaries. If you know better I look forward to being corrected!
Kontext/ Beispiele plot, n.Third edition, September 2006; online version June 2011. ; accessed 31 August 2011. II. A map, a plan, a scheme. 3. Thesaurus »Categories »†a. A plan of the actual or proposed arrangement of something; a sketch, an outline, esp. a synopsis of a literary work. Also fig. Cf. plat n.3 3. Obs.1548—a1627(Show quotations)Thesaurus »Categories » b. Originally: a ground plan, a map; a nautical chart. Later also: a representation on a chart of the movements of a ship or aircraft. Cf. plat n.3 2.1551—1992(Show quotations)Categories »†c. fig. The epitome of something. Obs. rare.1597—1597(Show quotations)Thesaurus »Categories » d. Theatre. A list of props to be acquired or made for or used in a particular production; a scheme or plan indicating the disposition and function of lighting and stage property in a particular production. Cf. lighting plot n. at lighting n.2 Compounds 2.1851—1998(Show quotations)Thesaurus »Categories » e. A graph showing the relation between two variables; a curve on such a graph.1880—1993(Show quotations)Thesaurus »Categories » f. R.A.F. slang. A group of enemy aircraft as represented on a radar screen.1943—1959(Show quotations)Thesaurus »Categories » 4. A plan made in secret by a group of people, esp. to achieve an unlawful end; a conspiracy. Also (humorous): a clever plan, an innocent scheme. Cf. complot n.?c1550—1991(Show quotations)†5. A design or scheme for the constitution or accomplishment of something. Cf. plat n.3 4a. Obs.1587—1678(Show quotations)Thesaurus »Categories » 6. The plan or scheme of a literary or dramatic work; the main events of a play, novel, film, opera, etc., considered or presented as an interrelated sequence; a storyline. Also in extended use. By "narrower sense", I meant "plot" meaning "graph", which is one of the meanings of "graphische Darstellung" and which is covered by one of the dictionary definitions you gave in #0:plot4 a graph showing the relation between two variables. chiefly US a diagram, chart, or map.http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/plotSo, I thought you might be proposing that the "diagram, chart, or map" meaning be flagged "Amer.". plot=graph is the meaning I'm most familiar with from my work. However, when I come to think about it, I don't see why the COD marks plot=diagram, chart or map "chiefly US". Its big sister, the OED, doesn't (see above).To my mind, graphs, diagrams, charts and maps are all forms of "graphic representation" in BE as well as AE.That leaves Longman's definition 5 of "plot":plot 5drawing American English a drawing that shows the plan of a building at ground level [= ground plan] http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/plot_1To avoid mistranslation from E to D, perhaps we could do with a New Entry to cover that meaning? Along the lines of "plot (ground plan) Amer. - Grundriss"?
Kommentar So you could say "He summed up the information in a plot", meaning any kind of graph, e.g. a bar chart? I'm not familiar with the idea of "plot" as another way to talk about graphs. I know it's used in the names of certain types of graphs, such as a scatter plot, but wasn't aware of it being used on its own just to mean "graph". I don't want to cast doubt on your knowledge, just to check if this use really is OK, for future reference.
Kommentar So you could say "He summed up the information in a plot", meaning any kind of graph, e.g. a bar chart?Well, that actual sentence does sound a bit odd because I think you'd be more likely to specify the type of plot you were using, but I wouldn't turn a hair at a sentence like "Figure 1 shows a plot of...", where Figure 1 could be a bar chart, graph, scatter plot or some other way of representing data graphically.Just have a google at 'Figure+"shows a plot"' site:ac.uk to see how "plot" is used in BE.
Kommentar Thanks, Anne! So the entry can be left as it is? I can't think of a way to tag it that would avoid sentences like "he summed it up in a plot", which is what led me here. I wonder if the dictionaries are a bit out of date? Maybe "plot" wouldn't have been used generally to mean "graph" a few years ago in the UK?
Kommentar Yes, the entry can be left as it is. Actually, googling around, it’s OK in fact to talk about information being “summarised in a plot” (“sum up” being the wrong register, I’d say). See e.g. para. beginning“This information can be summarised in a plot of the variances” on page 5 of http://people.maths.ox.ac.uk/richardsonm/Sign...and see Figs. 3 and 4 for different examples of a “plot”.Maybe "plot" wouldn't have been used generally to mean "graph" a few years ago in the UK? No, it’s been around for some time. I can’t remember how long I’ve been aware of it, but the 1989 version of the OED lists the “graph” meaning in its entry for “plot”:d. A diagram showing the relation between two variable quantities each measured along one of a pair of axes usu. at right angles; = GRAPH n.1 2.It’s not that the BE dictionaries you consulted are out of date, but rather that they’re not exactly strong on things technical. The Concise Oxford isn’t too bad (nor is Chambers incidentally), but presumably terms that the editors (all arts graduates perhaps? SCNR;-)) consider a bit specialised inevitably have to be left out or the dictionary would no longer be “concise”. The Longman, I notice, is an Advanced Learner’s Dictionary, and seems pretty useless on technical/scientific English in general, as are the Oxford and Cambridge Advanced Learner’s dicts. I looked up “rad”, for instance, in the Longman, assuming I’d find something about radiation dose or at the very least something about plumber-speak for radiator, but this is all it gives:rad informalexciting or interesting: Have you guys seen Wendy's new place? It's so rad.http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/radCALD and OALD definitions of “rad” are confined to the same meaning as that given in the Longman. So, it seems to me you could be wasting your time looking for anything even vaguely technical in the Longman, or for that matter CALD or OALD. Hope that helps for future reference:-).
Kommentar The trouble is that the learners' dictionaries are often the only ones that really spell things out at "unnecessary" length and remove all ambiguity!
Kommentar Was noch fehlt, ist der gebrauch von "der Plot" im Deutschen im Sinne von Handlungsschema:1. Handlungsgerüst einer epischen oder dramatischen Dichtung, eines Films o. Ä.; Fabel (3)Gebrauch: Literaturwissenschaft Beispiel der Plot des Romans, Dramas 2. mithilfe eines Plotters (1) hergestellte grafische Darstellung Gebrauch: EDVQuelle: Duden online

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