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    tip-off - (anonymer) Hinweis

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    http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=tip-off: tip-off - inside information that something is going to happen

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    Verfasserpenguin02 Aug. 06, 13:31
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    supported
    #1Verfasserodondon irl02 Aug. 06, 13:37
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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/birdflu/story/0,142...

    The outbreak was uncovered only after local agricultural officials received an anonymous tip-off. Mr Asada, who had faced possible criminal charges, denied attempting to conceal the deaths.

    http://arts.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,9449...

    The three stolen paintings which were found today following an anonymous tip-off may have been severely damaged by rain, police said.
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    Nur kurz zwei Kontextbeispiele.
    #2VerfasserJalapeno02 Aug. 06, 13:40
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    jetzt sind wieder die Quellen weg: Ich hatte Wordnet zitiert, wie bereits oben in der verlinkten Diskussion
    #3Verfasserpenguin02 Aug. 06, 13:43
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    Supported
    #4VerfasserLK02 Aug. 06, 13:43
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    anonymous tip-off

    Brit. -

    anonymer Hinweis



    anonymous tip

    Amer. -

    anonymer Hinweis



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    But with the BE/AE labels, unless an AE speaker says that tipp-off is used in the US (I don't think it is, except for in basketball, as was mentioned in the previous post).

    And what exactly is the goal here with "anonymous" which is only in parenthesis on the German side? Is the whole phrase being suggested here, or just the addition of tip-off for Hinweis, anonymous or not?

    Not ready to support until I am sure what I am supporting ...
    #5Verfassergirly-girl<us>02 Aug. 06, 14:11
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    @girly: don't you agree that tip-offs are usually anonymous, making the "anonymous" redundant?
    #6Verfasserpenguin02 Aug. 06, 14:20
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    @pengiun - no, I can't agree to that, because, as I implied, the only thing that a tip-off means to me is when the referee in basketball throws up the ball and two opposing basketball players jump to try and get it. If in BE a tip-off means an anonymous tip, and the anonymous part is not required (although note that it was present in both Jalapeno's quoted sources), then leave the word off, but mark it Brit!
    #7Verfassergirly-girl02 Aug. 06, 14:29
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    continued response to penguin -
    And, if it is so much a given in BE that a tip-off is anonymous, isn't 'anonymer' required on the German side? Or is it merely optional there?
    #8Verfassergirly-girl02 Aug. 06, 14:32
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    i don't think that tip-offs are usually anonymous actually. it just means that the source isn't given, but it doesn't mean that it isn't known. i think tip-off implies that the hint-giver does not wish to be publicly known, even though his identity may be known to those who received the tip-off. so as a result, i support the original entry more - (anonymer) Hinweis implies the secrecy sufficiently. unless of course someone else can come up with a more appropriate expression in german...
    #9VerfasserÅndreas02 Aug. 06, 16:03
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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/Northern_Ireland/St...

    A large part of the ombudsman's findings are understood to have been drawn from the review, including the claim about the informer's tip-off.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/indonesia/Story/0,,...

    Nine Australians arrested in Indonesia on suspicion of drug trafficking after a tip-off from their country's authorites could face execution by firing squad.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1...

    Man fingered after tip off at Wendy's
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    "(although note that it was present in both Jalapeno's quoted sources)"

    Das liegt nur daran, dass ich bei Google nach "anonymous tip-off" gesucht hatte ...

    Das letzte Kontextbeispiel passt übrigens ganz hervorragend zu meinem Vorschlag von heute nachmittag:

      related discussion:jemanden verpfeifen -- to finger someone
    #10VerfasserJalapeno02 Aug. 06, 18:05
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    @penguin

    there is no particular link to anonymous when mentioning a tip-off - it is often known where the tips come from - in fact many come because of rewards offered or because the public is requested for info (this would not necessarily be anonymous)
    #11Verfassernoli02 Aug. 06, 18:15
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    p.s.

    a tip-off is simply knowledge passed - i could get a tip-off from a friend that there is an item (i am interested in) in an auction
    #12Verfassernoli02 Aug. 06, 18:36
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    anonymous tip

    Amer. -

    anonymer Hinweis



    anonymous tip-off

    Brit. -

    anonymer Hinweis



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    NOAD:
    tip someone off - [informal] give someone information about something, typically in a discreet or confidential way: 'they were arrested after police were tipped off by local residents.'
    tip-off (also 'tipoff') - 1. [informal] a piece of information, typically one given in a discreet or confidential way. 2: (usu. 'tipoff') a jump ball that begins each period in a basketball game (used esp. in reference to the first tipoff of the game): 'the news of his injury came just two hours before tipoff.'
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    I agree with girly-girl that 'anonymous tip-off' is BE only; the corresponding AE expression is simply 'anonymous tip,' as a quick glance at Gurgle News clearly shows:

    <http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q="anonymous+tip-off">
    <http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q="anonymous+tip">

    This is probably because 'tip' in BE can also mean a garbage dump, and 'tip-off/tipoff' in AE can also mean the start of a basketball game.

    For this reason I think it's worth entering both versions, with the complete translation 'anonymer Hinweis.'

    The word 'tip-off' alone (without 'anonymous') may still exist in this sense in AE (though just 'tip' is probably much more common); certainly the verb 'to tip so. off (about sth.)' does exist. But neither of those is necessarily anonymous.
    #13Verfasserhm -- us03 Aug. 06, 05:10
     
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