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    Crossover Chat 224

    Kommentar
    This is not just another chat room. We are here to improve our language skills, German or English, and to encourage a spirit of community. All who share these aims are welcome.

    In the immortal words of our founder, odondon irl: «ein Faden, in dem Deutschsprechende auf Englisch und Englischsprechende auf Deutsch schreiben können, um zu üben, um Korrekturen zu ergattern, um des Spaßes Willen.»

    Der vorige Faden wurde von ihrer Hoheit Prinzessin atalante im Nachthemd sehr schön aus Titan gebastelt (oder so ungefähr):

    Siehe auch: Crossover Chat 223

    Anwesend waren auch die mehr oder weniger treuen Untertanen

    suziq, Goldammer, Wachtelkönig, Emily Chambers, bluesky, manni3, wi-chan, hh, spacerider0815, Amy-MiMi, ich, snickerdoodle, SD3, candice, kisan, Jools, Wolfman, Lore, cookie crumbler, Starlet, Norbert Juffa, penguin, und la.ktho


    Der alte Faden ist etwas voll geworden, also um alles genau herauszufinden müsst ihr selbst nachlesen. Aber irgendjemand hat wohl ...

    a) einen Elternabend überlebt
    b) ein Stückchen Sonne mit Lore geteilt
    c) ein Bussi bekommen und Tatort-Infos und eine Umarmung verteilt
    d) berichtet, dass sie gerade noch am Leben ist, ansonsten Arbeit Arbeit Arbeit
    e) berichtet, dass Schottland ihre Kalauer sehr schlimm geprägt hat
    f) etwas Freizeit in 20 Einheiten von je 30 Minuten bestellt
    g) Korrekturitos verteilt, uns an JEANY erinnert und im Garten gearbeitet
    h) zugestanden, dass sie nicht modern ist
    i) schönes Wetter im Süden berichtet
    j) einen neuen Schreibtisch neben Nick-Griffin-Fans im Büro bekommen und eine Halloween-Party ohne Kostüm besucht
    k) uns (oder der Prinzessin?) eine Walküreausrüstung vorgeschlagen
    l) vorgeschlagen, das Kostüm schon 6 Monate vor der Party zu erwerben
    m) eine schwierige Frage über Bunny-Spuren gestellt
    n) bei einem Stammtisch mitgemacht
    o) über Laubbläser mitgemeckert
    p) berichtet, dass sie nicht vorhat, sich gegen irgendeine Grippe impfen zu lassen
    q) eine verrückte Arbeitswoche gehabt, den Friseur besucht und mit Krankheit gekämpft
    s) ein Wortspiel über Crossover-Enten gemacht
    t) das eigene Wohnort als BaWü angegeben, aber leider immer noch ohne Kreditkartennummer
    u) nach langer Abwesenheit wieder mal was gepostet (willkommen zurück!)
    v) ihre Terrasse aufgeräumt, Pocken hinter den Ohren bekommen und Slumdog gemocht
    w) zwischen Fachartikelentwürfen, Tatort und auf dem unangenehmen Bettgestell Bleiben geschwenkt
    x) festgestellt, dass sie nicht mehr weiß, ob Emily größer als sie ist oder nicht
    y) ein Wortspiel über Illinois-Anwohner gemacht



    Tut mir leid, das hat wirklich etwas länger gedauert, als ich dachte. Hoffentlich sind nicht zu viele Fehler drin.

    Schlaf schön rechts, schönen Abend noch links. (-:




    Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 03 Nov. 09, 23:35
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    Thanks for the new snailhouse!

    As for the Tatorts: The one in the Mediathek of Das Erste was apparently an exception. Otherwise it seems to be a neat resource. Recently I watched part of a Menschen bei Maischberger show.

    Some might be interested in Martin--cal's new thread: Siehe auch: [es-de] La Mutualidad Trilingüe: Deutsch-English-Español
    #1Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 04 Nov. 09, 00:35
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    Vielen Dank, hm. Die Hochlichter sind toll, auch wenn ich nicht mehr weiß, wer was gemacht hat, denn ich lese nicht immer mit. Aber fein hast du das gemacht.

    Im Sommer habe ich die eine oder die andere Menschen bei Maischberger Sendung angesehen. Jetzt habe ich leider keine Zeit dazu. *seufz*

    *mich auf die Socken mach*
    #2Verfasser Amy-MiMi (236989) 04 Nov. 09, 00:43
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    Thanks for the plug, Wachtelkönig. I was just going to pop in myself to announce it when I see that you got here first.

    I've been putting more effort into learning Spanish these last several months, and had regretted the absence of a thread in the Spanish forum like Crossover Chat", offering people the chance to write in the language they were learning and getting corrections from native speakers. (Such a thread had indeed been started, but over time it developed into just a Spanish-language chat. I was disappointed that no-one ever went to the trouble of correcting my errors - and there's plenty to correct when I write in Spanish.)

    Anyway, as Wachtelkönig said, I started a new thread: Siehe auch: La Mutualidad Trilingüe: Deutsch-English-Español (aka The Trilingual Mutual Aid Society / Der dreisprachige Verein für gegenseitige Hilfe.)

    If you're learning English, you can try writing in English, and native English speakers should point out your mistakes. Similarly for Spanish. And similarly for German. That's the idea. Please come by if you're interested.

    #3Verfasser Martin--cal (272273) 04 Nov. 09, 00:44
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    Hello snails!

    Thanks a lot, @hm--us! Very nice highlights!!!
    For a change I watched TV tonight. "Goodbye Lenin" was quite pleasant.
    By the way, Wk's typo made me giggle a lot.
    High time for bed!!! Good night!
    #4Verfasser kisan (466721) 04 Nov. 09, 00:56
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    Danke, ihr. (Stimmt das eigentlich? Irgendwie bin ich mir nie sicher, ob und wann man stattdessen so etwas wie 'zusammen' oder 'in die Runde' sagen soll. 'Ihr Lieben' wird oft genommen, kommt mir aber ein bisschen zu vertraut vor. Einfach 'Ich danke euch'? 'Danke an euch'? Aaack ...)

    Hoffentlich hält sich niemand nur deswegen zurück, dass er die Lösungen zu den Highlights nicht weiß -- sie sind ja nicht so wichtig.

    Und wer die Hochlichter korrigieren möchte, bitte, nur zu, ich erteile hiermit volle Absolution, damit niemand sich zum Basteln gezwungen fühlen muss. (Obwohl, wer das nächste Mal gerne basteln würde, könnte die Hochlichter einfach korrigieren, und damit wäre die Sache schon beschlossen. Entschieden. Geschlossen. Fertig. Aaack.)

    kisan, 'Goodbye Lenin' ist einer der wenigen Filme, die ich im letzten Jahr oder so (2? 3?) gesehen habe, und er hat mir auch ziemlich gut gefallen. Zum einen mag ich einfach Geschichten, die unter durchschnittlichen Leuten in anderen Ländern spielen, damit man in die Wohnungen sieht, Gespräche hört usw. 'Real life' eben, wenn auch ein bisschen hollywoodisiert.

    Martin, danke für den neuen Faden im spanischen Forum -- aber umso schöner, dass du hier vorbeigekommen bist, um ihn anzukündigen. Don't be a stranger. (-:

    Ach, wie schön ist das Wetter hier diese Woche gewesen. Sogar der Mond, groß und rund im klaren Himmel. Und auf dem Weg zum Restaurant haben wir ein Reh gesehen.

    Schlaft schön, wollte ich früher sagen, aber das jetzt eher linksteichisch, und rechtsteichisch schon einen guten Morgen im Voraus.


    PS: Wenn Kanada durchaus vor ein paar Jahren verschoben worden wäre, könnte das irgendwie die ganze Unzufriedenheit mit dem Mittleren Westen erklären? Vielleicht sogar die ... *flüster* Gänse? o-:

    *wegduck*



    #5Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 04 Nov. 09, 06:02
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    Danke, hm--us, dass du mir einen so herzlichen Empfang bereiten hast. Es ist schon lange her, dass ich im Faden nicht mehr teilnehme (Teil nehme?). Wie ich sagte, als ich mich von euch Abschied nahm, dauert es für mich sehr lange einige Sätze auf Deutsch zu schreiben. Unt jetzt, wenn ich mich eineger Zeit für Sprachlernerei widmen kann, dann lieber Spanisch als Deutsch.

    Es freut mich aber, dass ihr einen so langen Faden habt spinnen können! 224 Spindel jetzt. Ich gratuliere.
    #6Verfasser Martin--cal (272273) 04 Nov. 09, 06:37
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    Good morning,

    thanks for the highlights, they were really nice. It is quite interresting just to compare the highlights.

    I wanted to thank suziq for her corrections in CC223 #233.

    If I may continue Jools time discussion, I would suggest you try to get in touch with Michael Ende who wrote Momo. There were these grey man that smoked 'Zeitblumen' (Sorry for the German word).

    Have to go, my son is waking up.

    Bye.
    #7VerfasserStarlet (329597) 04 Nov. 09, 06:51
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    I discovered a wonderful website
    http://www.africam.com/wildlife/index.php

    On the site are four live webcams in African wildlife parks. You can watch the animals if they happen to be in reach of the camera. I've just watched a herd of elephants and other animals.

    @hm--us
    "Danke, ihr" isn't exactly wrong but sounds a bit unusual.
    I might say:
    Danke euch allen
    Danke in die Runde
    ich danke euch
    I wouldn't have a problem with "Danke, ihr Lieben", either. In my feeling, it would fit for our context of a "lockerer Bekanntenkreis". It doesn't imply more intimacy than we have here.
    #8Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 04 Nov. 09, 08:43
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    Hallo und "Vielen Dank" hm-us :-)

    Jetzt bin ich in totaler Eile, weil ich doch versprochen hatte, die Bilder heute aufzuhängen :-( - nicht, dass ich morgen mehr Zeit hätte, aber ich bin wenigstens fertig geworden. Es ist schön zu wissen, dass man unter Stress gut funktioniert, aber es sorgt nicht für ruhige Nächte!

    Bitte schön, starlet :-)

    *indieRundewink*

    #9Verfasser suziq (315879) 04 Nov. 09, 12:37
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    I throw a polite Hello in the room. :-) *sitdown*
    I'm a beginner in English. But I would like excercise the appliance and found this thread. Also I thought, here I'm right and I should trust me to write.
    #10Verfasser Bommelchen (644579) 04 Nov. 09, 14:01
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    Hi Bommelchen und fühl dich willkommen :-)

    Das ist aber schon in Ordnung für einen "Anfänger(in)" (?).

    Korr: I would like to practise/excercise using the language....I should have faith in myself to write something.
    #11Verfasser suziq (315879) 04 Nov. 09, 14:13
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    *slimingin* Thank you, hm--us, for the nice new thread! I would not be able to correct anything in the Hochlichter, even if I wanted to - they are perfect. Have I really been present in the last thread? Its feels like I haven't been here for ages. I missed you all!

    Starlet, I believe we haven't met yet? You were no doubt welcomed into the CC in the usual friendly way, so I'm just saying: Nice to meet you! Alas, to get into touch with Michael Ende, you would need a gifted medium. He died in 1995. Or you would need to have the "Zeitblumen" already ...

    Hello Bommelchen! Cute Nick. Nice to meet you, too! So many new faces!
    #12Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 04 Nov. 09, 14:17
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    Hi all!

    Thanks for the new home hm--us and very nice Hochlichter!

    Hi Bommelchen, nice to meet you I'm Emily on the Island *shaking hand* and welcome!

    I hadn't had time to read most of the posts above so no comments on anything.
    #13Verfasser Emily Chambers (310963) 04 Nov. 09, 14:19
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    Thanks for the nice welcome :-)
    I'm a older woman and I don't still know exactly, how can I use it at all here. For that reason please pardon me my mystakes.
    I haven't nobody in my environment who can speak English. Already nobody with correct English. So I'm search a chance to speaking a little bit.

    #14Verfasser Bommelchen (644579) 04 Nov. 09, 14:26
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    Hello Bommelchen and welcome!
    There's no need for excuses, we're all here to learn. Just make yourself comfortable and join the discussion whenever you like. To my experience learning by doing is the best way of getting used to a language.

    hm--us Thanks for the lovely new thread!

    Martin--cal Hello! It's very nice to see you around again after such a long time!
    #15Verfasser Lore (236345) 04 Nov. 09, 14:50
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    Hello again...
    HM: Thank you for providing this new home :)

    Starlet: Yes! I remember Momo and think that's an excellent idea. Maybe I should get a turtle with lucid graffiti on its back, so I can get in contact with Michael Ende ;)

    At least I was told today that, for the moment, my official job is: waiting!
    (I hate waiting, I am one of the most impatient people on the planet.. but at least I get paid for it ;)
    )

    Welcome Bommelchen. I hope you will like it here. Don't be scared. Nobody will bite you if you make a mistake ;)

    #16Verfasser Jools (432226) 04 Nov. 09, 15:01
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    thanks for the neat new shell, hm--us and a tiny correcturito: Sogar der Mond, groß und rund (im) am klaren Himmel.

    Welcome Bommelchen and here, too: pardon (me) my m(y)istakes

    And as for all newcomers we need to know your shoe size and credit card number. :-))
    #17Verfasser bluesky (236159) 04 Nov. 09, 15:09
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    *smile* #16 Thats a good sound for my ears. But I think, I make many many mistakes and I hope, you don't lose your patience. And for that, I say: thanking in your anticipation :-)
    And I'm glad, that my body will stay completly. I have only the one :-))
    #18Verfasser Bommelchen (644579) 04 Nov. 09, 15:17
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    Hi snails!

    Thanks, hm--us, for this wonderful successor of my palace and the perfect highlights!

    Bommelchen, welcome! Feel at home in here!

    Jools, I could provide the turtle, but you'd have to wait until spring then, because at the moment he is sleeping in the refrigerator (not in the freezer ...). About the lucid graffiti you'll have to talk to him yourself ...
    #19Verfasser atalante (480508) 04 Nov. 09, 16:02
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    @atalante: Are you serious? You have a turtle hibernating in your fridge???
    #20Verfasser Jools (432226) 04 Nov. 09, 17:11
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    Of course I'm serious. Well, actually it's not my fridge, but my parents' (that's bigger). It's the ideal way for them to hibernate, because they need a constantly low temperature but no frost, and a constantly high level of air humidity.
    #21Verfasser atalante (480508) 04 Nov. 09, 17:22
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    Welcome Bommelchen!
    Have a nice time in here! Quite a few of us are "older women", and don't feel shy to just write what comes into your mind!
    #22Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 04 Nov. 09, 17:24
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    @atalante: Hahahah! I am sorry, but this is awesome. I have never heard of turtles hibernating in a fridge. In fact, I didn't know turtles hibernate at all. Guess I learned something new today :).
    What's his name?
    #23Verfasser Jools (432226) 04 Nov. 09, 17:28
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    Luigi, he`s four years old, and his temperament corresponds to his name and age ... (just imagine a boy of four with the character of a "typical" adult Italian ...)
    #24Verfasser atalante (480508) 04 Nov. 09, 17:35
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    I always think, the turtel will can very very old. The time "four year" isn't she still sitting in pampers?

    Goldammer :o) That's very anodyne, but I learned English for three-quarter year. That's my bigger problem to write. But I want attempt it.

    All you are so nicely. Thanks


    awesome = übersetzt: großartig oder schrecklich I can't read out, what do you say with it. You find it great or terrible?
    #25Verfasser Bommelchen (644579) 04 Nov. 09, 18:04
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    @Bommelchen - "awsome" in diesem Sinn ist wie "unglaublich!!!" - und ist seit einigen Jahren ein Modewort, für "toll" und überhaupt.

    Heute hatte ich meine Bilder aufgehängt, und erfuhr, wie langsam einige Leute arbeiten können! Normalerweise brauche ich ca. eine Stunde, um die Bilder aufzuhängen, und die Dame, die die Ausstellung organisiert, war total begeistert, als wir nach 1,25 Stunden zur Hälfte fertig waren! Zugegeben wir hatten Kaffee gekocht und uns ein wenig unterhalten, aber dann gab ich Gas, und hatte die andere Hälfte in 20 Minuten aufgehängt, (als sie eine Schere und Tacker suchte ;-)).

    Aber ich will nicht meckern...schließlich hat die nette Frau Interesse an ein Bild...gegen Bares :-)
    #26Verfasser suziq (315879) 04 Nov. 09, 18:29
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    Not so many news from my side, apart from Monday evening. (I gave a life report in the Zaehlzimmer but I don't think you've read it. Maybe wi-chan.)

    I just had a shower and wanted to read, so I didn't bother to get dressed afterwards and just took my pyjama. I sat on my bed while still counting a bit in the Zaehlzimmer, when I heard a loud and urgent knock on my door. I just grabbed a long cardigan and went to the door intending to tell whoever was outside to wait a while while I'd put some Jeans over my pyjama. When I looked though the spy I saw two police officers. Somehow I forgot about the Jeans at that moment and just opened the door.
    There have been burglars in one of the upstairs flats some time Monday. Apparently in broad daylight but fortunately nothing seems to be missing. I've been working at home half the day but I haven't heard or noticed anything during the time. A bit spooky but I guess I can call myself lucky that they didn't choose mine. But I guess the flats upstairs are more risky because less people while walks by and notice something.

    The police came back yesterday and handed alarm systems out to us other tenants and smartwater pens.
    #27Verfasser Emily Chambers (310963) 04 Nov. 09, 19:44
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    Bommelchen, I'm glad he doesn't need pampers anymore, he has already learned when and where to ... (at least he gives the impression ...). You have my respect for starting to write in English after only three quarters of a year. At that time I would never have said a word to anyone except in class where the others were at the same level ...

    Good luck, suziq! I hope it won't take that nice woman too much time to decide about buying the picture ...

    Emily, that sounds really spooky, but I think I wouldn't notice naything either if there were burglars in the house where I live. There are only ten apartments, but there's always someone moving in or out or renovating or whatever, so every few days there's a noise as if they were tearing down the house, and I guess burglars wouldn't make any noise at all ...
    #28Verfasser atalante (480508) 04 Nov. 09, 20:49
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    Hallo, Bommelchen. Auch Anfänger und diejenigen, die ihre Sprachkenntnisse einfach ein bisschen auffrischen möchten, sind hier immer willkommen. Und glaub bluesky wegen der Kreditkartennummer bitte nicht -- es sei denn, du willst, dass dein Konto eines Tages für ein paar Paar Schuhe belastet wird. (-;

    @Jools re #16: Hmm, lucid graffiti kenne ich nicht. Und wenn die Schildkröte (oder der, da er ein Männchen ist? immer wieder verwirrend) im Winterschlaf ist, ist er wohl weder wach noch bei klarem Verstand, sprich: nicht sehr lucid. Vielleicht fluorescent graffiti?

    Danke für die Korrektüren. Am Himmel, am Himmel, am Himmel. Die Sterne auch? Die Sonne? Die Planeten? So, als ob man sie daran kleben würde? Oje, das muss ich mir merken. Danke, bluesky, wenigstens bist du wohl ein Experte auf diesem Gebiet. (-:

    atalante, gestehe, du hast das von der Schildkröte im Kühlschrank nur erzählt, damit die Highlights das nächste Mal aufregender werden, nicht wahr? So was aber auch.

    Der arme Luigi, ich würde mich fürchten, jemand würde aus mir im Winter turtle soup machen. Und ist es nicht sehr grell fürs (zum?) Schlafen, wenn jemand die Tür aufmacht?

    Emily, ein Lebensbericht, ist denn etwas Wichtiges passiert? Außer dem Polizeibesuch, will ich sagen. Gut immerhin, dass deine Wohnung nicht zum Opfer gefallen ist -- von dir selbst ganz zu schweigen. Was ist denn ein smartwater pen?


    @wi-chan: —> #12 [Have I really been] Was I really present in the last thread?
    @Bommelchen: —> #14 I have[n't] nobody / I don't have anybody in my environment who can speak English. ... So I'm searching for a chance to speak[ing] a little bit.
    @Lore: —> #15 [To] In my experience learning by doing is the best way
    @Emily: —> #27 Not [so many] much news from my side ... I just had / took a shower and ... just [took] put on my pyjamas. I [sat] was sitting on my bed ... when I heard a loud and urgent knock on my door. ... wait a while while [I'd] I put some Jeans (on) over my pyjamas. When I looked though the [spy] peephole (oder ist 'spy' etwa BE?] I saw ...
    There [have] had been burglars in one of the upstairs flats some time Monday. ... [I've] I had been working at home half the day but I [haven't] hadn't heard or noticed / didn't hear or notice anything ... the flats upstairs are more risky / riskier because [less] fewer people [while] walk[s] by and notice [something] anything.
    @atalante: —> #28 in the [house] building where I live (es sei denn, es sieht wirklich wie ein Familienhaus aus)

    PS: Entschuldigung, ich hätte die Gänse wirklich nicht erwähnen sollen ...





    #29Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 04 Nov. 09, 21:06
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    Hi hm--us, thanks for the corr.! It is "die Schildkröte", no matter if male or female, you also say "die männliche Schildkröte" which of course doesn't sound very logical, so I sometimes say "der Schildkröt" (my invention). So now that you've seen through me I can take him out again ;-) ... No, I swear he's in there, and it doesn't matter if there's light or not. Turtles are poikilothermic, that means their metabolism slows down to almost zero when it's cold enough, so they don't notice what's going on around them (and that's also the reason why they get so old, they perserve their life energy half of the year). And he sits in a cozy little box, burrowed under leaves and earth ...

    Edit: Ok, now I'll retreat to my own cozy fridge, but just for a few hours ... Good night!
    #30Verfasser atalante (480508) 04 Nov. 09, 21:26
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    @bluesky: Vielleicht wollte Bommelchen betonen, dass das seine Fehler waren. *gg*

    Ich dachte, Emily würde schottisches Englisch schreiben. Die Schotten sagen doch naething, oder? Wenigstens hat Robert Burns naething geschrieben.

    Ae fond kiss
    #31Verfasser Amy-MiMi (236989) 04 Nov. 09, 22:14
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    Hi Bommelchen, hi Martin-Cal, hi everybody!

    A turtle named Luigi hibernating in the fridge, endowed with Italian temperament in addition to that. What a nice story!!!
    I imagine him wearing sun-glasses and singing "Lasciate mi cantare" when he isn't hibernating, of course:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK-qFN3i2S8
    By the way, I'd favour "Schildkrötenmännchen".

    @hm--us: Is it due to the fact that I switch on my TV very rarely that I am not as easily enthralled by a film as I was when I was younger? I found "Goodbye Lenin" quite pleasant, but that's it. I liked the end when Honnecker's "successor" is delivering his speech. Although the guy always refilling jam jars and keeping his eyes peeled for Spreewaldgurken made me smile, in my opinion, the film was dragging on a bit in the middle. I had expected more.
    Ae fareweel, but not for ever!

    Edit: Und ist es nicht sehr grell fürs (zum?) Schlafen, wenn jemand die Tür aufmacht?
    I'd say something like: Wacht er nicht auf, wenn jemand die Tür aufmacht und das Licht angeht?
    #32Verfasser kisan (466721) 04 Nov. 09, 23:25
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    Hi, kisan. Ja, vielleicht. Mich hat der Film auch nicht gerade umgeworfen (umgehauen?), aber nett war er trotzdem. Und für mich machte die Sprache alles sowieso interessanter. Aber Gurkengläser, das habe ich wohl schon lange vergessen.

    Im allgemeinen, ja, z.B. Bücher finde ich oft jetzt weniger spannend als vor ein, zwei Jahrzehnten. Und ich lese überhaupt weniger Fiktion. Ob das eine Alterserscheinung ist?

    Wenn Luigi Männchen genannt wird, ist er immer noch 'es' statt 'er,' stimmt? Wie ein Mädchen. Oh well. So lange er/sie/es glücklich ist. (-:

    *f5* Danke, aber wie sagt man sonst 'too X for ____ing / too X to ____'?
    #33Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 04 Nov. 09, 23:37
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    Maybe "Schildkröterich"?

    [Wanted to write something else, about finding books less exciting than in the past, but it's more complicated that I thought, and possibly different with films, but should rather keep working.]
    #34Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 04 Nov. 09, 23:47
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    Amy, Bommelchen is a she, see #14.

    Der Schildkröt is okay for me, didn't Michael Ende use this term?

    Am Himmel, am Himmel, am Himmel. Die Sterne auch? Die Sonne? Die Planeten? Yes. So, als ob man sie daran kleben würde? Yes. Danke, bluesky, wenigstens bist du wohl ein Experte auf diesem Gebiet. Yes. ;-)

    umgehauen - corrct; diminutive is always neuter.
    #35Verfasser bluesky (236159) 05 Nov. 09, 00:01
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    Hi hm!

    Yes, quite right, it should be "es" when you are referring to the "Männchen".
    Vielen Dank auch fürs Basteln. Vielen Dank, Luigi, für die nette Geschichte. Ein Dankeschön auch an Luigi für die nette Geschichte.
    A bit more context please! *g*
    Mich hat der Film auch nicht gerade umgehauen. That would be fine.

    Though I've become more critical as for fiction I still find it easier to be enthralled by a book than by a film. When I was younger and wasn't living in the middle of nowhere I went to the movies quite often. But now I watch films on TV. I tried to watch the Mediathek Tatort, but got bored after 20 minutes. It would have been different, if it had been in English.
    #36Verfasser kisan (466721) 05 Nov. 09, 00:03
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    Hi all you nice people,

    I think it's about time I joined you here in this beautiful place. I'm not sure if I already did once in one of the older threads or if I was just thinking about it. I am officially entering now ;-)

    Bommelchen, I think especially your vocabulary is really good for someone who has pretty much just started learning English.

    Emily, what is a smartwater pen? Do the police think those burglers are going to come back? I think I would shit myself if they insinuated anythink like that.

    Could hibernating Luigi be our mascot? I wish I could hibernate in a fridge.

    Today we had pretty much all sorts of precipitation (is that right? is that even a word?) over here. When I left the house this morning it was raining, directly followed by a mild form of hail. When I got out of the underground there was sleet and when I went for lunch it was snowing. On the way back home I got drenched with rain again. What a lovely day!

    Just wondering: Isn't it strange that we can say "it is snowing" but not "it is sleeting"? Or can you?

    I just watched "Moonstruck" on DVD and I'm really not sure what to make of it. There are so many nice little scenes and the characters, especially the parents, aunt and uncle and the granddad are just amiable. Cher looks adorable, but Nicolas Cage? Kind of weird film although I can't really put my finger on what it is. Maybe it's just the 80s.

    Time for bed really although I probably won't be able to sleep cause I ate too much pasta (when will this student lifesstyle ever end?).

    Good night everyone!


    #37VerfasserZora [de] (593998) 05 Nov. 09, 00:06
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    Hi, hm--us, thank you for the new shell and the very interesting and nonconformistic presentation of the highlights ;-))


    corr.:

    hm, Gut immerhin, dass deine Wohnung der Polizeirazzia nicht zum Opfer gefallen ist - there must be a dative object. And because you are keen on reasons - as I know: it's idiomatic ;-)


    suziq, Heute (hatte) habe ich meine Bilder aufgehängt Vorvergangenheit doesn't fit because it was during this process and not after it when you made the experience of how slowly some people can work.

    It's a very interesting concept to formulate the fraction of an hour in hundredths instead of minutes. You should tell the people who are updating ISO and DIN!

    For your pictures I wish you good success and that the nice lady doesn't lose her Interesse an einem Bild. :-))
    BTW Being a German is it better to cross the fingers, to press the left thumb or to spit over the monitor three times?


    Hi, atalante, I hope you are not a selfish turtle-raven-mother and Luigi is sleeping in a platine box ;-))


    Bommelchen, welcome! And be careful and not too overcredulous here: Your credit card number is absolutly necessary, that's true, but it's sufficient to give it only to me (Trau schau wem!)


    A²µ³ 
        Ae fond kiss, naething more
        Ae fareweel, alas, just for now!


    #38Verfasser manni3 (305129) 05 Nov. 09, 00:21
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    @bluesky: Bommelchen endet auf -chen, also das Bommelchen, oder?

    @Zora[de]: Hier bist du richtig, aber hast du nicht vergessen, uns deine Schuhgröße und Kreditkartennummer zu sagen? It is sleeting. Das kann man schon sagen, wenn das Wetter passt.

    So...die Pause war eigentlich lang genug. Ich muss was schaffen.

    Übrigens finde ich es sehr, sehr interessant, dass atalante eine Schildkröte im Kühlschrank hat. Das kannte ich nicht zuvor.

    *müde rausschleim*


    #39Verfasser Amy-MiMi (236989) 05 Nov. 09, 00:21
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    My contribution # 38 only includes remarks until # 31.
    The rest must remain unmentioned - I beg your pardon!
    Good night!
    #40Verfasser manni3 (305129) 05 Nov. 09, 00:27
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    Good morning everyone,

    I hope you had a better good nights sleep than I did. My kids took turns in waking up. *biggercoffeeneed*

    @wi-chan: I don't know either wether we have met before or not. Last time I posted was at the end of last year, beginning of this year. Then my kids got sick, and the "normaler Wahnsinn" begann.

    @Bommelchen: A warm welcome from me too. You are very courageous to write in English with only a quarter of a years practice. Don't give up!

    Sorry, I've got to go, the daily routine is waiting.
    #41VerfasserStarlet (329597) 05 Nov. 09, 07:11
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    Welcome Zora! Are you red?
    (Sorry - but that was one of my favourite books as a girl. Do you know it? Is your nick meant to remind people of it?)

    Well, manni, it is not a very clever idea to have our dear new snails giving their credit card numbers to you exclusively. How would you make use of it without them knowing immediately who it was?

    Re Luigi:
    Even if he has been described as "Schildkrötenmännchen", I would still call him "he" (and not "it") because he has a name and is therefore treated like a sort of person. Isn't it the same in English? As soon as animals are mentioned with a name, they are called "he" or "she"?

    (#31 and #35: I think one could say both, "es" or "she" when someone has a neuter nick)

    @hm--us:
    Ist es nicht zu grell zum Schlafen, wenn man die Tür aufmacht und das Licht angeht?

    btw, I haven't observed any changes in my reading preferences with growing older. I still enjoy both, fiction and non-fiction - with a clear preference on the first.
    #42Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 05 Nov. 09, 07:55
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    My son fell of our corner seat(?). I feel so guilty. We just returned from our pediatrian and she says everything looks fine so far, but I still feel guilty of not having caught him on time.
    #43VerfasserStarlet (329597) 05 Nov. 09, 11:18
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    Oh Starlet, you can't always be there in time. Sometimes stupid things just happen. Nothing serious happened, that's what counts in the end.
    How old are your kids, anyway?
    #44Verfasser Lore (236345) 05 Nov. 09, 11:27
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    :oD Hello

    I see, I should introduce me :-)
    My Shoesize isn't important. I have too litte feets as you can make a big jump with there :-)
    But my correctly Bankcardnumber, that I understand, is important matter. I find the idea super, you'll like me give all your money. But, when I post my number here, then know too many people the number. That I can't to answer for. :-)
    I believe, I should it whisperer. Listen exactly!!! *whisper* ... *furtherwhisper*.... Okay?
    If you don't understand, you can me contact. I'm glad, if I to get about so much money :oD

    Starlet, it isn't a pleasant matter. But the doctor said, it's all okay. We are only simple People, non robots. :-) Cheer up!
    #45Verfasser Bommelchen (644579) 05 Nov. 09, 11:55
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    Oooops Starlet. I'm sure your son will be fine and the shock was probably bigger for you than for him. No need to feel guilty ;-)

    Hi Goldammer, I'm not red and i must confess that I haven't read the Red Zora book but I've heard of it. When I chose my nick I assumed that people would make that connection which I don't mind at all, she seems like a cool character. So it is partly intentional. Truth is, it actually is a spelling mistake which lead to this nice association people might have.

    @ Amy: Thank you for the new word "to sleet". I shall use it abundantly. My shoe size is 6.5 (if I converted it correctly) and I wish I knew my credit card number but I'm so bad with numbers, terribly sorry ;-)

    I think I will watch Good Bye Lenin soon. Seems to fit in pretty well with all the 20th anniversary of the Fall of the Berlin Wall.
    #46VerfasserZora [de] (593998) 05 Nov. 09, 12:03
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    And Starlet :-) thanks for the warm welcome and the compliment for the vokabulary. But, sadly it isn't all my vokabulary. I have to often looking in the dictionray. Either to use words or to understand the words. Sorry

    But I'm totally happy, that you understand me at all. :-)
    #47Verfasser Bommelchen (644579) 05 Nov. 09, 12:16
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    Good morning everyone.
    I am sorry but I have to go back to the turtle story.
    I still find this whole turtle-in-fridge thing hilarious. But even better, when I read his name and character description just a minute ago. Atalante you have made my day and I now also officially want a turtle with the attitude of an Italian. So I assume he's a little cheeky and flirtatious, though not very fast I guess?
    But what I wanted to ask is, doesn't he wake up at all in his hibernation? Or do you still have to feed him every couple of weeks? Or can you just ignore him for the next few months?

    @hm-us: Flourescent vs. lucid. Well I am not even sure what the correct German term would be. it's not Flourescent, because that would mean it glows in the dark or under black light. The turtel in Momo (called Kassopeia, thus female I assume) can display messages on it's shell. So the words lighten up, that's why I thought of "lucid". But of course.. now thinking about it, he indeed might be not very lucid while hibernating ;)

    @ Emily: What are smartwater pens? And how will they help you prevent burglars? (I am somehow imaginging a small toy watergun...)
    #48Verfasser Jools (432226) 05 Nov. 09, 12:28
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    Hi Zora, Starlet, Bommelchen and Lore.

    And welcome to the Crossover Chat Zora. *shaking hand*

    Bommelchen, I can't answer your question concerning the credit card number but I think it will do. I didn't give mine and got only a temporary membership for the next 100 years. 99 years and a few month to be accurate.

    hm-us thanks for the corrections. It's always the verb forms! Maybe I really should start learning some grammar. But - surprisingly - I see that the corrections are far better than my choice, so somehow I know what's right and wrong.

    As you have asked Zora and hm-us (and as my computer is busy which leaves me with some time):
    I'm not exactly sure what a smartwater pen is, but I understand it is the same as "künstliche DNA" and I know at least how künstliche DNA works.
    The pen can be used to mark a computer or TV or stuff like this as yours. It writes in invisible ink, well not invisible as it will fluoresce if exposed to black light. The fluoresce is not important, only to enable the police to find the marked spot.
    There are tiny particles in the ink which are too small to be seen without a microscope and these particles are marked with a binary code which is unique for each (every?) pen. The pens are registered with the police and if they find a stolen item that is marked they can easily identify its owner, simply by using a microscope.
    It comes along with several stickers to let thieves know that an item is marked (in the hope they don't take it) and with a larger sticker to put on the window (to warn burglars that the valuable stuff is marked). Experience with the system has proved that it really reduces the number of crimes committed.
    #49Verfasser Emily Chambers (310963) 05 Nov. 09, 12:31
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    *gg* Jools, haven't seen your post.

    There is actually a different smartwater system that works exactly like that, with a water pistol, although not a toy one. It marks a criminal at the crime scene with some sort of colour (maybe it can only be seen using black light) that can not be washed off.
    #50Verfasser Emily Chambers (310963) 05 Nov. 09, 12:36
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    Wow.. I want such a smartwater pen!!! I need it for my bike, as bikes are stolen like crazy here in London and it's always a problem to prove it's really yours if you are lucky enough to find it on one of the regular weekend markets..
    #51Verfasser Jools (432226) 05 Nov. 09, 12:49
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    Sorry Emily. Sadly I have a problem I understand your answer.

    Manni und Bluesky said, they need my Banknumber. Lie I wrong, when I think, they like give me their money? For that is my Banknumber. Please don't forget, I'm a Englishbeginner.
    #52Verfasser Bommelchen (644579) 05 Nov. 09, 12:53
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    A weary 'Hi snails, how are you?' from an utmost knackered snail (even too knackered to read the posts).

    @ hm, Thanks for the shell!

    @ all: This time I'm the one who needs inspiration in order to get some energy to read the new posts ;-)
    (posts or postings - even too leerhirnig for that.)
    #53Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 05 Nov. 09, 13:04
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    Hi cookie crumbler!

    Jools, try and ask at your local police station, or check on http://www.smartwater.com/Home.aspx .

    Bommelchen, a quick translation:
    Die Smartwater Stifte dienen dazu Gegenstaende als Eigentum zu markieren. Sie arbeiten mit unsichtbarer Tinte, die unter Schwarzlicht fluoresziert. Das aber in erster Linie damit die Polizei erkennt, wo ein Gegenstand markiert ist. In der Tinte sind mikroskopisch kleine Teile enthalten, auf die ein Code geschrieben ist mit dem der Eigentuemer identifiziert werden kann da jeder Stift einen anderen Code enthaelt. Die Stifte werden bei der Polizei registriert und wenn z.B. ein geklauter Computer gefunden wird kann man so den Eigentuemer identifizieren.
    #54Verfasser Emily Chambers (310963) 05 Nov. 09, 13:10
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    Thanks Emily, very very nicely. But that wasn't it that, what I meant. I mean: Bommelchen, I can't answer your question concerning the credit card number but I think it will do. I didn't give mine and got only a temporary membership for the next 100 years. 99 years and a few month to be accurate.
    I find not the combination to my declaration in # 45
    #55Verfasser Bommelchen (644579) 05 Nov. 09, 13:17
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    Hi Emily and Bommelchen!
    (Need to dash...)
    #56Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 05 Nov. 09, 13:24
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    Bommelchen, als ich nach der Kreditkartennummer gefragt wurde, hatte ich keine Karte, und werde wohl auch erst im Fruehling eine neue beantragen. Deswegen konnte ich keine Nummer angeben. Als manni meinte das mit der Mitgliedschaft wuerde dann nicht gehen, habe ich eine zeitlich begrenzte Mitgliedschaft fuer 100 Jahre vorgeschlagen, laenger bleibe ich wohl sowieso nicht. *gg*
    #57Verfasser Emily Chambers (310963) 05 Nov. 09, 13:27
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    Now I understand it. But you can see, I'm a absolutly beginners. Never I would read it so, out the sentences. Thanks for explain :-)

    But that's good for me :-) Perhaps, when you would have a Kreditcard, I have to go out empty. That's non good idea. :-))) So I get Mannis and Blusky's fatty dough. *grin*
    #58Verfasser Bommelchen (644579) 05 Nov. 09, 13:43
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    Emily: Thanks for the link. I will check it later when I am back home. My office computer doesn't allow access to the link :(

    Since when are newbies asked for their shoesize and creditcard number? Noone asked me! *sulking*
    Not that I would tell you anyway.... ;op
    #59Verfasser Jools (432226) 05 Nov. 09, 14:00
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    Jools You won't tell us your shoe size? Huh. Well ok, then what's the colour of your favourite purse? ;-)


    OT: Did any of you snails ever feel the urgent need to squeeze somebody until their eyballs fell out of their sockets?
    *quietly snarling out*
    #60Verfasser Lore (236345) 05 Nov. 09, 14:31
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    *Loreberuhig* (manchmal aber selten im häuslichen - hatte mich gegen "privaten" entschieden *g* - Bereich)

    @zora #37 - Willkommen, erstmal...und ja, man kann sagen "It's sleeting" - zumindest dort, wo ich herkomme, wenn es naßer Schnee und nicht schön locker flockig ist.

    Heute hatten wir eine Smartboard-Fortbildung. Smartboards sind große Touchscreentafeln, die man im Klassenzimmer benutzen kann, und es ist wirklich Wahnsinn, was man damit alles machen kann! Leider haben wir nur 15 Stück in der Schule, aber wenigstens eines meiner Klassenzimmer ist eingerichtet. Es wird aber letztendlich bedeuten, dass man den Unterricht völlig anders plant (oder überhaupt ;-)). Morgen werde ich ein freies Zimmer suchen und ein bisschen üben :-)
    #61Verfasser suziq (315879) 05 Nov. 09, 15:30
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    Will I be thrown out if I don't answer the question? ;)

    and yes.. I know this feeling very well. I have it regularly when I am dealing with some of my clients.

    For example when someone leaves a message on my voicebox:
    "Hello my name is Mr Smith *. Can you please call me back? Thank you" - click. (* random but very common name chosen)
    Well, I would if Mr Smith had left a number.

    2 days later, another voicebox message: "Yes hello this is Mr Smith. I called in 2 days ago and asked for someone to call me back. Can you please do so? Thank you." - click
    Of course Mr Smith. I assume you are the only Mr Smith in the country and I can find only you in the national phonebook?

    2 days later, another message, pretty angry voice now: "Hello. Mr Smith again. Nobody has called me back yet. Please do so. It is very important." - click.

    Next day the secretary comes to my desk: "An angry German chap called for you. But he only spoke German, so I couldn't help him. His name was something like Mr Smith. You better call him back." - "Do you have his number?" - "No he didn't say, or I didn't understand."


    AAARGH!

    PS: my voicebox clearly states: Please leave your message AND NUMBER, so I can call you back asap.
    #62Verfasser Jools (432226) 05 Nov. 09, 15:50
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    Maybe .. this is why I turned my voicebox off .. in 2001.
    Surprisingly .. after every change of my local phone number (for the cell phone) it turned itself on .. absolutely by surprise of course.

    But I don't have to expect funnybunnys to call me .. so I expect from my targetgroup that they leave a number which is saved in my adressbook .. or even better .. a text message (could I say SMS to that?) giving me a clue what the fuzz is all about;)

    And even with 1500 free minutes included in my phonebill .. I could never understand even to spent the half of it.
    #63Verfasser la.ktho (236390) 05 Nov. 09, 16:01
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    Unfortuntaley most of my clients are such "funnybunnies".

    Another regular occuring situation is the following
    yes I am bored at work today and noone's here to watch me)

    Me to client: "Please fill in the form and return it together with the required documents."
    Client returns form and states: "I still have the required documents, if you need them."
    Me: "Can you please also send me a copy of the documents? We ned them to process your case."
    Client returns form again and states: "I still have the required documents, if you need them."
    Me: "Yes, thank you. But We also need a copy of the documents to process your case.
    Client: "What documents?"
    Me: "The ones requested to process your claim"
    Client: "Oh yes. I still have those if you need them."

    ...
    #64Verfasser Jools (432226) 05 Nov. 09, 16:09
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    While writing some user instructions .. I was critisised (c/s?:) that they would sound too childish. "I know my target group." I responded.

    Favourite funnybunnies of mine: Software Developer
    They really know what they are doing. Really. Really.
    But they don't have a fucking idea how a user would deal with their perfekt soloution. I always recommend. Show them ONE way. And never give them TOO MUCH information;)
    #65Verfasser la.ktho (236390) 05 Nov. 09, 16:19
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    Hallöchen lieber lala :-) --> criticized (kommt von "critic")
    #66Verfasser suziq (315879) 05 Nov. 09, 17:58
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    *bookmark*
    Thanks, hm-us for the (in the meantime no longer) new home.

    Hi Suzi-Q! Are you coming along with your exhibition?
    I remember having had such a smartboard training? / introduction? at my school years ago and finding it quite fascinating. However, I soon forgot about it again, since we purchased exactly 1 (in words: one) smartboard, which makes a lot of sense, of course...
    #67Verfasser candice (447114) 05 Nov. 09, 20:06
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    @suziq #61:
    (naßer) nasser Schnee (even before the spelling reform, this was a clear case of replacing the ß with an ss)
    #68Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 05 Nov. 09, 22:46
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    As a matter of fact, I prefer smart teachers to smart boards, candice, so I'm sure you're doing fine!

    But a combination of both, as in suzi's case, would of course be ideal. ;-)

    Oh, and Emily, you've got mail (in the test forum).
    #69Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 05 Nov. 09, 23:07
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    Guten Morgen, Schnecken!

    Erst einmal vielen Dank an hm--us für das schöne Häuschen.

    Dann willkommen im Schneckenhaus Bommelchen und Zora!

    Ich bin noch dabei, die Arbeit von letzter Woche aufzuarbeiten. Krank sein lohnt sich wirklich nicht! :-(

    Heute hat es im Betrieb wieder mal Bagels gegeben. Diesmal zur Ehre der Yankees, die gestern (inzwischen vorgestern) zum 27. Mal die Baseballmeisterschaft gewonnen haben. Ich habe einen Kollegen gefragt, ob es wirklich angebracht sei, einen Yankee-Sieg zu feiern, denn wir seien doch keine New-Yorker. Er hat gemeint: You should never look a gift bagel in the mouth! *g*

    Übrigens das beste New-York-Lied - Ohrwurm auch noch! - (Ist natürlich nur meine Meinung, aber sie ist ja schon mal was wert, oder? *g*) ist immer noch:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9M6gXIqlfI&fe...

    Einen SmartWater-Stift möchte ich auch haben. Das ist ja eine tolle Idee. Ich würde im Büro meine ganzen Kugelschreiber markieren. Sie verschwinden dauernd.

    @Starlet zu #43: Bench corner seat scheint eine Möglichkeit zu sein.
    http://www.nextag.com/bench-corner-seat/compa...
    Fell off

    @candice zu #67: I remember having had such a smartboard training? / introduction? -> I remember having / being given a similar introduction to smartboards
    Früher war a training bzw trainings (pl.) im Sinne von a training session bzw. training sessions im Englischen unbekannt. Inzwischen sagt man so was Unmögliches, ohne rot zu werden. Ist ja schlimm, aber man muss es wohl akzeptieren. :-(
    #70Verfasser SD3 (451227) 06 Nov. 09, 01:20
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    Good morning everyone,

    and thanks for your comforting words. I really felt a bit down yesterday.

    @Lore: My daughter is nearly 5, and my son is 19 months. And they can be quite a handful. It seems to me as though they were constantly arguing. No, actually that is not true, yesterday morning they hugged eachother. That was really cute. Hopefully, there will be more of that.

    @everyone who is annoyed by funnybunnies: I think you might enjoy this:

    http://discovery-thru-elearning.blogspot.com/...

    I am sorry, you might have to copy it. I don't have a clue how to create a link. I thought it would work just like that. SORRY!!!! But it is really funny.



    #71VerfasserStarlet (329597) 06 Nov. 09, 06:24
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    But it is working, Starlet! No problem, you did it right!
    (Haven't got the time to read it all, though. Beginning sounds funny. I bet Jools likes it)
    #72Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 06 Nov. 09, 07:47
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    Good morning, Starlet! And Goldammer, of course! :-)
    When I look at the time of your post, I vividly remember all those mornings when I had to get up at 5 a.m. with candison and candigirl. This went on for more than four years, and was especially hard in winter, when it was still dark outside for another two or three hours. By the time other people got up, they were already tired and crotchety (just looked up that word - Do you really say that?) again. At night, they wouldn´t sleep before 9 or 10 p.m., and I didn´t sleep through a single night for more than four years. From September to May they suffered from colds, which meant that they were feverish and grouchy and grumpy all the time and didn´t sleep more than 2 hours in a row at night.
    About arguing and fighting: I can also hardly remember occasions when they really played with each other peacefully, but I do remember one typical incident. Candison (3 years) and candigirl (2 years) were sitting in the sand at a beach. There´s nothing but sand for kilometers to the left and kilometers to the right, and they are having a heated and tearful argument over a little heap of sand between them and whose sand it is.

    And now all this is forgotten, but I´m still grateful that usually my alarm in the morning is the first thing that wakes me up after a good night´s sleep. :-)
    #73Verfasser candice (447114) 06 Nov. 09, 11:06
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    Wow, Candice, theese must have been pretty rough times. I in return do get an occassional good nights sleep. Last night for example my daughter only woke up once at 11p.m. and after that I slept through until my alarm clock woke me up at 5.25 am. The reason I set it this early is for me to enjoy my morning coffee quitefully and peacefully. Just like your kids mine seem to have one cold after another, and then I might have to get up up to seven times per night. And well then I do not feel so great. But I got to go. Must pick up the girl from daycare.
    #74VerfasserStarlet (329597) 06 Nov. 09, 11:38
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    Hi candice, arguing about whose thing this is, is a necessary step in 'Ich-Werdung'. I hope you then were aware already that your children were behaving totally 'phasengerecht' and you could lean back and enjoy their growth on the way of becoming adult ;-))


    edit: perhaps you mothertonguelers don't need a comma between is and is in the first sentence - but I do ;-))
    #75Verfasser manni3 (305129) 06 Nov. 09, 11:41
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    I'm sure that when my kids were in that phase, I wasn't thinking about such posh concepts as "Ich-Werdung" when they quarrelled endlessly about whose it was. I was only gnervt or sometimes maybe amused.
    Honestly, manni, were you thinking of psychological concepts when your offspring was going through age-typical unnerving phases?
    I have only lately come to develop at least some "old-age-wisdom" about enduring adolescent children, but as a young parent I couldn't be that "worldly-wise" even though I had at least some of the knowledge theoretically.
    #76Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 06 Nov. 09, 12:04
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    Thanks, Goldammer! I was starting to feel inferiour. At night when I am lying in bed just before falling asleep all the little instances when I behaved wrongly come to my mind. But in the situation itself I just react.
    #77VerfasserStarlet (329597) 06 Nov. 09, 13:50
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    Goldammer "thinking of psychological concepts" - of course!! This was in the seventies!
    And sometimes we would admonish our precocious children (and in High-German): "Verhalt dich gefälligst phasengerecht!!!" ;-)
    #78Verfasser manni3 (305129) 06 Nov. 09, 13:59
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    Hallo!

    @Goldammer - "naß" sieht total bescheuert aus...und ich kenne die Regel :-( Danke!

    @candice - Alles läuft gut :-)

    Heute klingelte mein Handy im Unterricht (Oha! Todsünde in der Schule!). Die Nummer war unterdrückt, und ich musste den Anruf sowieso wegdrücken - auch den zweiten Versuch. Könnt ihr euch mal vorstellen, wie sehr ich mich geärgert habe, als ich nach Hause kam, und mein Sohn erzählte: "Ach, da hat eine Frau eine Nachricht hinterlassen...ich habe sie leider gelöscht...aber sie wollte das XY-Bild kaufen für 500+ Euro". Ich revidiere, dass ich selten im häuslichen Bereich jemandem den Hals umdrehen möchte! Es bleibt nur zu hoffen, dass sie sich noch einmal meldet!

    Ärgerlicherweise muss ich heute in die Uni fahren, weil ich ein Seminar unbedingt im Frühjahr belegen möchte, konnte mich aber nicht online anmelden. Jetzt muss ich auf gut Glück hinfahren, und hoffe, dass einige Leute nicht erscheinen, damit ich einen Platz bekomme. Eigentlich habe ich keine Zeit...psychologisch gesehen. Natürlich hätte ich mich lieber auf die Couch geschmissen, aber was sein muss, muss sein! Immerhin habe ich danach eine halbe Stunde mich umzuziehen, um dann zur Vernissage zu fahren. Reicht doch, oder?

    O-Mann! Wer bringt mir morgen Frühstück (oder zumindest Kaffee) ans Bett? *aufeinenbestimmtenstllenLeserhoff*
    #79Verfasser suziq (315879) 06 Nov. 09, 14:05
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    After having read Candice' and Starlet's stories I think I'd rather have an Italian turtle than children ;)
    #80Verfasser Jools (432226) 06 Nov. 09, 14:07
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    Believe me, Starlet, even if you behave "wrongly" in hundreds of situations in your life as a parent (and I still recall some of them very vividly - first of all that I didn't insist on having older Goldammerson with me during his first few days on earth - they had taken him away from me and brought him to the children's ward because they suspected he had an infection, which he hadn't in the end...), they will grow up allright and make their way. Children can cope with a lot of crap from their parents as long as the basics - giving them love and as much support as they need - are ok.
    #81Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 06 Nov. 09, 14:10
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    @Jools - ich habe auch vier...und ich möchte sie nicht missen, auch wenn sie wichtige Anrufe löschen! Allerdings verstehen sie sich alle sehr gut - da bin ich sehr froh darüber. Ich habe aber vielleicht ein kurzes Gedächtnis und übe extrem viel Verdrängung ;-)
    #82Verfasser suziq (315879) 06 Nov. 09, 14:17
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    @suzi: Haha! Sometimes forgetting is the best way ;)
    It's not that I don't like children.. Most of them are ok.. as long as you can give them back to their parents after a while ;)
    *j/k*

    This weekend my boyfriend's nephew is coming to visit us. I've never met him, but he was described to me by his own mother as "a nice and sweet but arrogant little twat. A typical 18year old, who thinks he knows it all."
    Woohoo.. can't wait to meet him ;)
    #83Verfasser Jools (432226) 06 Nov. 09, 14:36
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    Oh, I bet he will be very sweet with you! In my experience, they are much nicer with other people than with their own parents!
    #84Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 06 Nov. 09, 15:14
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    wi-chan, I didn't got anything and have sent you an Emil.

    *crossing fingures for suziq* I hope that woman will call again and that you are lucky with the seminar.

    Otherwise I don't have much to ad as I don't have children.
    #85Verfasser Emily Chambers (310963) 06 Nov. 09, 18:27
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    Emily, the Emil just ran back to you (and swam, the last bit, obviously)!

    Don't have children, either, and my nephew is only two years old and no arrogant twat at all (but if he were, I doubt his mother would be able to see that).
    #86Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 06 Nov. 09, 19:32
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    Good evening :oD
    Jools! You are write so nicely. Your post about Mr. Smith yesterday, I must loud laugh.

    Suziq! I'll cross my fingers for you, so that this woman call you again. :-) I know this situation too. That the love love Childrens. But somewhen, they'll have childrens too and then we'll can smile about they. That's my hope. *grin*

    Now I wish all: a very nice weekend
    #87Verfasser Bommelchen (644579) 06 Nov. 09, 19:45
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    *silentlypeepin'in*

    I know, it's a long time since I slimed through the last time ... *sigh*
    Do you still remember me?
    #88Verfasser neutrino (17998) 06 Nov. 09, 20:07
    Kommentar
    No!!!
    #89Verfasser kisan (466721) 06 Nov. 09, 20:21
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    *weeping*
    *silentlycreepin'out*
    #90Verfasser neutrino (17998) 06 Nov. 09, 20:23
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    Oh no, neutrino! Don't cry. I've recognized you. I was only taking the Mickey out of you.
    #91Verfasser kisan (466721) 06 Nov. 09, 20:27
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    Hallo Schnecken!

    Welcome back, neutrino! Wo warst du denn die ganze Zeit? (Wenn ich fragen darf! *g*)

    @Bommelchen: ein paar Korr.
    I must loud laugh. -> I had to laugh out loud.
    I'll cross ... this woman will call you again.
    That the love love Childrens. ??
    But someday, they'll have children(s) too and then we'll be able to smile about them.

    Ich wünsche dir auch ein schönes Wochenende.

    #75: mothertonguelers LOL

    #85: I didn't get anything
    much to add 
    #92Verfasser SD3 (451227) 06 Nov. 09, 20:28
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    @neutrino:
    We recognized you because of your constant weeping. Are you a relative of Moaning Myrtle by any chance?;-)

    Hi to kisan, SD3 and all the fellow snails.
    #93Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 06 Nov. 09, 20:32
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    Hi SD3, hi cookie crumbler, hi neutrino!
    I'm only rushing through. It looks as if my furnace has decided to go on strike, just on a Friday evening when I won't be able to reach anybody. I guess I'll have to make a fire in my stove.

    #94Verfasser kisan (466721) 06 Nov. 09, 20:37
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    For neutrino:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4RAse_FYU8

    Kisan, what's it like to live in a steel plant with a furnace? Well, some like it hot. ;-)

    *creepinoot*
    #95Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 06 Nov. 09, 20:42
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    Hmmphh. I had to google for Moaning Myrtle ... No, bunny, I'm not a relative of Myrtle.

    :-p @ kisan.

    And now I've got to leave for the exercices for my backbone ... errrr, since I damaged my knee I will just meet them for a beer after they did some exercices *ggg*
    #96Verfasser neutrino (17998) 06 Nov. 09, 20:44
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    *creepingbackin*

    Dear SD3,
    Dear Amy,
    Dear hm,

    What's the name of the American (19th century) author who encouraged people to civil disobedience, please? His name is on the tip of my tongue...

    edit:
    Thoreau, isn't it?

    another edit:
    Yep, Thoreau.
    #97Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 06 Nov. 09, 21:09
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    Jawohl, Henry David Thoreau.
    Ich war auch mal am Walden Pond. [edit] Vielleicht bin ich deswegen aufmüpfig.
    #98Verfasser SD3 (451227) 06 Nov. 09, 21:29
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    Dear me,
    another disobedient creature!

    Night, night!
    #99Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 06 Nov. 09, 21:41
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    Gute Nacht, cookie crumbler.
    (Aufmüpfigkeit kann auch positive Folgen haben. *g*)
    #100Verfasser SD3 (451227) 06 Nov. 09, 22:18
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    *nachträglich*

    Keine Ursache. So eine Frage beantworte ich immer gerne.

    [zu mir] D.h., wenn die Lösung schon da steht ... *g* [/zu mir]
    #101Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 07 Nov. 09, 00:16
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    There is a ladybug walking along the top of my laptop screen. Wonder how this critter got in. Looks a bit dusty. Better put it outside, so it can find a better hibernation spot. Not very cold out there.

    *creeping-toward-the-bettgestell*
    #102Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 07 Nov. 09, 05:54
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    Thanks SD3!

    *grinning*
    I just had to think of Luigi when I took James out of my fridge.
    No, James is not a turtle but a sourdough. It is somewhat traditional in Germany to give sourdoughs male first names as it is "DER Sauerteig", and since I started it in England I was looking for an English name but I couldn't think of anything. It was SimplyCurious who came up with James Leaven and that's how I named it.
    #103Verfasser Emily Chambers (310963) 07 Nov. 09, 11:17
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    Hallo Schnecken!

    So viel Männliches im Kühlschrank! Meine Küche ist im Vergleich außerst uninteressant. ;-)

    @Emily: that's how I named it = auf diese Weise habe ich den Namen gewählt. Wolltest du das sagen? Oder vielleicht that's what I named it?

    @kisan: Was macht deine Heizung? Funktioniert sie wirklich nicht? Und am Wochenende auch noch. Das ist Pech.

    Gestern war ein Heizungs- bzw. Klimaanlagewartungstechniker bei mir. Alle halben Jahre wird routinemäßig eine Wartung durchgeführt. Inzwischen ist es hier nicht mehr so warm - ist ja schließlich Herbst. In den letzten Tagen lagen die Höchsttemperaturen zwischen 10° und 15°. Was hat der Techniker dann freundlicherweise gemacht? Die Systeme auf Kühlung gestellt!!! Am Abend war es wirklich nicht so gemütlich. Zum Glück kann sogar ich das Ganze per Knopfdruck von Kühlung auf Heizung umschalten. *g*
    #104Verfasser SD3 (451227) 07 Nov. 09, 13:23
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    Hallo!
    Also die Frau hat nicht zurück gerufen, aber ich habe ihre Adresse und Nummer von der Veranstaltung bekommen, und es klebte einen roten Punkt. Es war gestern sehr schön, aber wie immer (wie bei Hochzeiten, Partys etc) hat man keine Zeit vernünftig mit irgendjemandem zu reden: Hier ein Foto, da eine Begrüßung, bitte setzt euch hin...die Musik spielt, die Ansprache etc etc. Das ist besonders ärgerlich, wenn Menschen, die man lange nicht gesehen hat, sich die Mühe gemacht hatten, zu kommen - und zu mehr Kommunikation als Bussi, Bussi kommt es nicht!
    Ein skandinavischer Künstlerbekannte hat mit meiner Freundin geredet, und er erzählte ihr, er sei aus seinem Land ausgewiesen worden, weil er ein Psychopath wäre...hmmmm...die Arme, sie wusste überhaupt nicht, wie sie reagieren sollte. Er hat auch eine sehr monotone Stimme. Ich konnte mich an seine Hintergrundsgeschichte nicht mehr erinnern, aber er ist schon etwas seltsam aber sehr talentiert.
    #105Verfasser suziq (315879) 07 Nov. 09, 14:49
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    Fingers crossed for all snails who have heating or furnace problems.

    @WK: How's the ladybird and how are you?

    @Hm: Cheeky lass you are!

    @100: Depends on how you translate it. If it's 'obstreperousness' - what a pain, if 'insubordination' - sounds better.

    good news: Today my neighbour's helped me fix a couple of things in my (more or less) new flat, which looks far better now. (Thanks, neighbour!!!)

    bad news: I've caught a sinusitis.

    *creepingintomeischönsbettgschtell*
    #106Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 07 Nov. 09, 14:53
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    Maybe it goes away if we send a cosinusitis your way? (Sorry, bad pun, I know. I'm in a silly mood today.) Get better soon!

    Suzi, you got mail.
    #107Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 07 Nov. 09, 15:08
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    *frommeibettgschtell*:
    Wi-chan:
    Sounds like a good idea. COME HERE COSINUSITIS AND CUDDLE A WEE BIT WITH ME AND MY SINUSITIS!!!
    *enjoyingsinusitis'andcosinusitis'company*
    #108Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 07 Nov. 09, 15:12
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    Or you just wait for Emily, she's a mathematician and ought to know how to deal with sinusses and cosinusses ... Who knows, maybe a cosinusitis is a lot worse, and we [6-gear]drove out the devil with the beelzebub[/6-gear]? (Not to talk about a tangensitis - that one is probably lethal ...)
    #109Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 07 Nov. 09, 15:17
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    Don't make things too complicated, love! Life is complicated enough! ;-)

    Cheerio!
    #110Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 07 Nov. 09, 15:19
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    If you divide a sinusitis by a cosinusitis you get a tangensitis - seems not to be a good idea.
    #111Verfasser bluesky (236159) 07 Nov. 09, 16:02
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    *groaningfrommeibettgschtell*

    Fair enough, bluesky!
    I prefer
    sinusitis, cosinusitis and tangensitis to
    sinusitis, cosinusitis and tonsilitis!
    (not to mention adenopharyngitis...)

    edit:
    Emily, please don't make any more suggestions!
    #112Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 07 Nov. 09, 16:46
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    SD3, both? ;-)
    Thank's for pointing that out.

    cookie crumbler, suggestions? I don't know what I suggested or are you talking about the soup in the Zaehlzimmer?

    sine and cosine are essentially the same just shifted.
    sin(x)=cos(x-Pi/2)
    #113Verfasser Emily Chambers (310963) 07 Nov. 09, 16:59
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    Du bist krank, cookie crumbler? Das tut mir aber leid. Mein Rat: das ganze Wochenende im Bett bleiben, den Rechner ausschalten, schlafen, schlafen, schlafen. Gute Besserung!
    #114Verfasser SD3 (451227) 07 Nov. 09, 17:01
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    A cosinus is a shifted sinus? Then a cosinusitis would be a mutated virus? Sounds dangerous. Better not to mess around with it then, crumbladora, and just cure your sinusitis as soon as possible! Sorry for suggesting anything else! *handing over hot lemon with honey*
    #115Verfasser wi-chan (390817) 07 Nov. 09, 17:03
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    Oh, sorry about the sine/cosine topic, I haven't read everything and missed that bit about it. Get well soon cookie crumber!
    #116Verfasser Emily Chambers (310963) 07 Nov. 09, 17:04
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    Du bist krank, cookie crumbler? Das tut mir aber leid. Mein Rat: das ganze Wochenende im Bett bleiben, den Rechner ausschalten, schlafen, schlafen, schlafen. Gute Besserung!

    [edit]
    sine and cosine are essentially the same just shifted. 
    *g*
    So etwas würde ein Nichtmathematiker nie behaupten, ja, würde nie den Mut haben, so etwas zu sagen. ;-)
    #117Verfasser SD3 (451227) 07 Nov. 09, 17:06
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    Thank you snails, for honey, get well wishes and for intelligent pieces of advice.

    Before heeding SD3's advice, let me quickly hand over some correcturitos to Susele:

    Ein skandinavischer KünstlerbekannteR.
    Hintergrundsgeschichte => Hintergrundgeschichte
    und es klebte einen roten Punkt => und ich klebte es auf einen roten Punkt???

    *switchingoffcomputer*
    #118Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 07 Nov. 09, 17:27
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    ...und es klebte ein roter Punkt auf dem Bild as sign that it is saled.

    (cookie seems to be seriously ill.)
    #119Verfasser bluesky (236159) 07 Nov. 09, 19:07
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    Ja, es hört sich leider so an, gell bluesky?
    as a sign that it is sold

    Ich muss heute Abend etwas Essbares auf eine kleine Feier mitbringen. Nur Obst - muss nicht groß kochen - aber das ist auch nicht so ganz ohne, Obst muss man ja waschen.
    #120Verfasser SD3 (451227) 07 Nov. 09, 19:35
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    Do you really have to wash fruit? Only pagans have to!

    When the nurse in a jungle hospital explained to Little Joseph that he always has to wash fruit because of the teeny-weeny invisible animals which can make him sick, he replied: "Okaaaay... But we Christians don't believe in this, don't we?"


    edit: eigentlich it should be 'we don't believe, do we?' - shouldn't it??

    #121Verfasser manni3 (305129) 07 Nov. 09, 20:18
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    edit: eigentlich it should be 'we don't believe, do we?' - shouldn't it?? Genau!

    Also jetzt gehe ich wirklich Obst waschen - für den Fall!
    #122Verfasser SD3 (451227) 07 Nov. 09, 20:47
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    'shouldn't it?? Genau!' - I didn't dare to write it. I don't trust the logic in English language (US is etc. ...) ;-))


    Perhaps you should make punch / wine cooler: alcohol is a disinfectant - BTW the only reason people drink it!
    #123Verfasser manni3 (305129) 07 Nov. 09, 20:54
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    Nur Mut! Logik in der Sprache? Daran glaubst du doch selber nicht!:-)

    Welche people meinst du? Früher mal natürlich. Die Münchner Mönche zum Beispiel. Ich aber werde heute Abend ein Gläschen Wein trinken, weil er mir schmeckt und ganz bestimmt nicht, um mich zu desinfizieren! *g*

    #124Verfasser SD3 (451227) 07 Nov. 09, 21:52
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    Some things in life you don't need to believe in, do you? They are working anyway!
    Examples: Illogicalness in languages and disinfectant effect of alcohol - cheers!


    #125Verfasser manni3 (305129) 07 Nov. 09, 22:42
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    Morgen allerseits! Danke für die Korrektur der doofen Fehler (und die Aufklärung für cookie ;-))

    Ich klebe heute keine roten Punkte sondern an der Vorbereitung meiner Präsentation (die nächste Hürde auf meiner Erledigungsliste) über "Lexical errors and false friends" - ich bin also sehr dankbar für schöne Fehler...natürlich nur aus wissenschaftlichen Gründen, versteht sich ;-)

    Danke wi-chan für die Mail...es kann mal passieren, wenn man älter wird, dass man vergesslich wird ;-)

    #126Verfasser suziq (315879) 08 Nov. 09, 10:51
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    *snowingthrough*

    Shahll I make some faults of varoius kints in my postinggs for only thou, dearezt suziq?
    ;-)
    #127Verfasser Snowflake (260254) 08 Nov. 09, 20:14
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    Tja, liebstes Flöckchen...du überzeugst nicht!!!
    #128Verfasser suziq (315879) 08 Nov. 09, 22:03
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    Convince I you more?
    #129Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 08 Nov. 09, 22:05
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    Manyeasy can I overwitness you, dearest suziq? ;-)
    #130Verfasser candice (447114) 08 Nov. 09, 22:06
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    Wott miens konwinß? And mien ju manyeasy overbeget, candice?
    #131Verfasser manni3 (305129) 08 Nov. 09, 22:07
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    Wott will all that Swabs here suddenly?
    #132Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 08 Nov. 09, 22:10
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    Miet ze Franx!
    #133Verfasser manni3 (305129) 08 Nov. 09, 22:11
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    But I'm no kitty...
    #134Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 08 Nov. 09, 22:12
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    I´m safe that suziq will become a nervetogetherbreak when she sees this.
    #135Verfasser candice (447114) 08 Nov. 09, 22:13
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    Yes, I belief zis too.
    Anyway, manni, I'm no Miet-ze and no kitty, you old Swab.

    Editt:
    I must now go to the bet.
    #136Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 08 Nov. 09, 22:16
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    But seriously, suziq, you mght like this little story:

    http://www.ef.com/master/tl/_pdf/false-friend...

    Hi my dear Swabians! (Didn´t I want to go to bed, too?)
    #137Verfasser candice (447114) 08 Nov. 09, 22:18
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    Hi candice, that's great!
    I'll do this with one of my students next week!
    #138Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 08 Nov. 09, 23:01
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    One false friend more, just found in Language lab:
    Schal - shawl (engl. 1662), persisch 'Umschlagtuch' nach Schaliat, der indischen Stadt der Herstellung. (Kluge, etym. WB)
    #139Verfasser manni3 (305129) 08 Nov. 09, 23:50
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    Für mich funktioniert Zickarles Link nicht.

    *in die Runde wink*

    Ich denke, hier solltet ihr korrektes Englisch schreiben. Mir tun die Augen richtig weh!
    #140Verfasser Amy-MiMi (236989) 09 Nov. 09, 03:06
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    A²µ³, sorry for your aking eyes and unkorrektes Englisch schreiben - so good't hold goes!

    With compliments for 'Zickarle' ;-)))
    #141Verfasser manni3 (305129) 09 Nov. 09, 09:05
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    Ihr seid unschlagbar! Kaum bekommt ihr die Einladung "falsch" zu schreiben, seid ihr alle da ;-)

    Danke für den Link, candice - ich werde ihn gleich weiter geben!

    Ich hatte 20 DIN-A4 Seiten mit kleiner Schrift und muss sie in 15 Minuten zusammmen fassen - schneller Reden bringt auch nichts :-(

    Heute habe ich an meine 5.Klässler gezweifelt - sie sollten 10 Zeitblöcke von der Tafel abschreiben, nachdem wir sie zusammen formuliert hatten:
    8.00-8.45h: eight o'clock until quarter to nine usw
    (Wir machen den Schulstundenplan)
    Nach 30+ Minuten saßen einige da und hatten es gerade geschafft, die Zahlen aufzuschreiben. Ich sagte: "Lasst eine Zeile dazwischen frei". (und zeichnete es an die Tafel zur Anschauung!). Wenn ich fragte, was sie tun sollten, konnten sie es mir erklären...nur nicht ausführen! (bis auf 2 von 23!)

    Zum Glück habe ich bis Mittwoch Zeit mich wieder abzuregen!
    #142Verfasser suziq (315879) 09 Nov. 09, 10:33
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    Och menno (How do you say that in English btw?),

    I missed all the fun of writing funny English. Maybe I should have a look at this thread on the weekends, too...
    I caught a really bad cold on the weekend and had to spent all sunday at home on the couch. Last night I couldn't really sleep because I constantly woke up having the strangest nightmares. Brrr. *still shaking*
    I don't really feel better today, but still had to go back to the office. I hope it will go away soon so I won't take it with me into my holiday...
    #143Verfasser Jools (432226) 09 Nov. 09, 12:17
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    Hallo Schnecken!

    Ich kann meine Steuern nicht zahlen, denn die entsprechende Webseite funktioniert nicht. Ich bekomme die Fehlermeldung 'Server unavailable. Please try again later.' Ich versuche es schon seit 24 Stunden - na gut, nicht ununterbrochen. Was mache ich jetzt?

    @suziq: Zahlen schreiben ist wohl schwieriger als man meint.

    @manni3: Bitte tue nicht ummisten mit meiner eingeborenen Sprache!

    @Amy-MiMi: Es hilft nur eins: Augen zu machen und weiter schlafen. :-)

    @Jools: Gute Besserung!
    Siehe auch: " ach menno"
    #144Verfasser SD3 (451227) 09 Nov. 09, 12:25
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    Fank Yoo SD3 ;)
    #145Verfasser Jools (432226) 09 Nov. 09, 13:26
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    @SD3 - und schwarze Zahlen schreiben sind die allerschwierigsten zu schreiben ;-)
    #146Verfasser suziq (315879) 09 Nov. 09, 14:48
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    Sssssss! ssuziq and SSD3 - What has happend to your sseparable verbs?

    @ 142
    wèitergeben
    zusàmmenfassen

    @144
    Augen zùmachen und wèiterschlafen

    It is the emphasis which tells you whether it is about a separable verb or two words:
    Vorschläge zusàmmenfassen: Wir fassen die Vorschläge zusammen.
    irgendetwas zusammen fàssen: Wir fassen uns zusammen an den Händen.



    @ 142 Dative Plural: as many 'n' as possible: verzweifeln an wem? - verzweifeln an meinen Fünftklässler n  
    [Yes, the dative here is idiomatic, and yes, etymologically idiom has to with idiot. So nobody knows why - it's just like it is!]
    (Are they so rigidly selected already, that the faster ones all are in Gymnasium?)



    @ 143 - jools - "Och menno": Who comes too late this one punishes the life - somebody said this in Russian about twenty years ago! That my Russian not so good is, mirrors itself in my English version. And in Russian there is an accusative at 'this one', too ;-))
    (Okay, jetz is aba ma gut - ersma Schluss!)
    #147Verfasser manni3 (305129) 09 Nov. 09, 16:53
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    @manni - Ich hatte im Hinterkopf, dass sich bei dem Rechtschreibreform etwas geändert hatte, und dass man sie nicht mehr zusammen schreiben soll *konfussei*

    Heute war nicht so wirklich mein Tag! Von dem Anfang habe ich erzählt (5.Klässler), dann wollte ich Geld abheben. Ich ließ die Frau das Geld 3x zählen - zum Glück zurecht, da sie 50Euro zu wenig ausbezahlen wollte! Dann wollte ich Material kopieren und bin in den 33.Stock mit dem Fahrstuhl gefahren und musste weitere 5 Stockwerke zu Fuß gehen...und der Ordner war nicht da!! Und so ähnlich ging der Tag weiter :-(
    #148Verfasser suziq (315879) 09 Nov. 09, 19:24
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    Good evening :-)

    What a curios day. It's so cold and the first snowflakes have strayed oneself. Brrrr

    SD Thanks for the correction. I already wonder me, that nothing was false.
    #149Verfasser Bommelchen (644579) 09 Nov. 09, 19:52
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    @manni3 #147: Danke für die Korrekturen.
    Ich erkläre mich zwar schuldig aber berufe mich auf eine schwere durch die Unrechtschreibreform verursachte Behinderung. Ich bin kurzum vollkommen verwirrt, was das Auseinander- bzw. Zusammenschreiben betrifft. Radfahren heißt jetzt Rad fahren, und kennenlernen kennen lernen, aber bereithalten heißt immer noch bereithalten, und teilhaben schreibt man weiterhin teilhaben. Was soll denn das? Es ist zum Verzweifeln! Ich weiß nicht einmal, ob man nach der Reform auseinanderschreiben bzw. zusammenschreiben auseinander schreibt oder zusammenschreibt. :-(

    @suziq: Schwarze Zahlen? Wo gibt's denn so was?

    Hallo Bommelchen! Wie war das Wochenende? Es schneit? Befindest du dich etwa in den Bergen?
    Was haben die Schneeflocken gemacht? Sich verirrt? They lost their way. Das deutet wohl darauf hin, dass du nicht in den Bergen bist.
    curios -> curious
    I already wonder me, that nothing was false. -> I was surprised that nothing was wrong.

    @Jools: Du bist willkommen! Oder wie sagt man heutzutage in London? Kein Problem, Liebe? Das's all richtig, Entchen? ;-)
    Übrigens wie war der Neffe? So schlimm wie sein Ruf oder doch nicht?
    Noch was: Ich denke, deine Arbeit besteht gegenwärtig darin, abzuwarten. Warum musst du denn zur Arbeit fahren, wenn du krank bist? Kannst du nicht genauso gut zu Hause abwarten?
    #150Verfasser SD3 (451227) 10 Nov. 09, 01:05
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    Cheers Guys,

    I've been wanting to join yous for months or years now. And now, finally, I'm doing it for mere technical reasons: I've screwed up the new *1080* thead, just trying to cover up my shortcomings, trying to make the evidence disappear ...
    Shame on me.

    *blush*
    *wavingateveryone*
    #151Verfasser w5 (de) (250079) 10 Nov. 09, 01:22
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    Hallo w5! Ich sehe gerade, du hast eine ziemlich niedrige LEO-Nr. Du hast dir wahrhaftig ganz schön viel Zeit gelassen, um hierher zu finden. Warst du bis jetzt immer im QZ, oder bist du ein bisschen umhergeirrt? Was hast du eigentlich im 1080er vermurkst? Mir fällt nichts auf, also hast du es gut getarnt. :-)

    I'm doing it for mere technical reasons
    Wie bitte? Es ist dir klar, dass diese Äußerung uns CClern nicht sonderlich schmeichelt, gell? *g*
    #152Verfasser SD3 (451227) 10 Nov. 09, 01:36
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    Good evening, SD3 and w5!

    So even the argument, that through the reform the spelling allegedly has become easier for non-native speakers, is apparently garbage. They screwed that many things up, that I am really reluctant to adopt the very few reasonable things. They should have invested all the money that project swallowed into something more reasonable and important. Like reform of the school system, alternative energies, biodiversity research ...
    #153Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 10 Nov. 09, 01:46
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    Hi SD3,
    Well, what shall I say? As a mathematician, specialising in number theory, I wouldn't exactly call 250079 a particularly niedrige LEO number. And it's not even prime. *sigh*

    Sorry, I was not aware that mentioning technical *shortcomings* was a no-no.

    Hi there, wachtelkönig!
    To be honest, I quite like the new spelling rules. And this is not just because it is so easy to be ahead of everyone. I really find it a useful reform. And, yes, I am aware that some words are now further away from their etymology roots.
    #154Verfasser w5 (de) (250079) 10 Nov. 09, 01:57
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    Hallo Wachtelkönig! Wie geht's?

    Ja, ich bin nicht grundsätzlich gegen Reform, nur gegen Verwirrung.

    Wann geht's denn mit dem Packen los?

    Also, w5, was deine Nummer angeht, es ist ja alles relativ. Ist die Bezeichnung w5 mathematisch bedeutend?
    #155Verfasser SD3 (451227) 10 Nov. 09, 01:58
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    Well, again, what shall I say? Is it all relative? Maybe it is - and you, SD3, seem to be a master of disguise, or rather, editing.
    Frankly, no, w5 has no particular relevance that I am aware of. It is just a (nick-)name.

    *wishingwachtelkönigallthebestwithhisendeavours*
    #156Verfasser w5 (de) (250079) 10 Nov. 09, 02:10
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    Thanks.
    First I'm planning a short trip and spend next week in Michigan. And I don't like packing. The unpacked stuff is partly still distributed over my bedroom floor. So repacking shouldn't be too difficult.
    #157Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 10 Nov. 09, 02:33
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    Hallo, w5, schön, dich hier zu sehen. Und Zora habe ich anscheinend auch noch nicht begrüßt. Immer wieder schön, wenn etablierte LEO-Benutzer plötzlich im CC auftauchen.

    w5, wenn du den QZ-Fadentitel nicht erwähnt hättest, hätte ihn wohl niemand bemerkt, aber jetzt, wo du's sagst ... (-; (*f5* Ooops, eigentlich war das der 1079., Entschuldigung. Vom nächsten habe ich nun wirklich gar nichts bemerkt --außer, dass du dafür den Prian bekommen hast, und ein klitzekleines Echo.)

    Ich hatte dunkel in Erinnerung, dass w5s Zahl irgendwie aus 3 + 2 kam, aber jetzt weiß ich lange nicht mehr, woher die 3 und die 2 kamen, falls ich es überhaupt mal gewusst habe.

    Zum Mauerfalljahrestag: Hier haben wir nur ein paar Bilder vom Feiern in Berlin zu sehen bekommen, aber die Dominosteine waren toll. Und Kanzlerin Merkel hat sehr glücklich ausgesehen.

    Ich hole mal ein bisschen nach ...

    Zora (#37), Nicolas Cage habe ich irgendwie nie gemocht. Umso feiger, aus einer bekannten Filmfamilie zu stammen und einen angelsächsischen Namen zu nehmen. (Habe ich das richtig in Erinnerung?)

    Wenn wir noch nie von der Roten Zora gehört haben, ist das eine Bildungslücke? War sie etwa ein sowjetisches Mädchen oder was?

    Schön auch, dass neutrino und Snowflake wieder vorbeigekommen sind. Sie sind beide ein wenig pünktchenähnlich; wenn sie nur auch rot wären, könnten sie sich auf suziqs Gemälde kleben. Das würde das Uhrlesenproblem zwar nicht lösen, aber ein Schritt wäre es wenigstens. Hmm, ob man die lernresistenten Fünftklässler vielleicht auch wegverkaufen könnte?

    manni3 (#38), eigentlich war ich froh, dass Emily samt Wohnung nicht den Einbrechern zum Opfer gefallen war, aber Polizeirazzia ist auch schön, so viele ZZZ ...

    Starlet, hoffentlich geht es deinem Sohn schon besser. Kleine Kinder haben meist nicht sehr lange Gedächtnisse (es sei denn, du möchtest eigentlich, dass sie etwas schnell vergessen, und stattdessen erinnern sie dich ständig daran).

    Ich sehe schon, Luigi wird schnell zum CC-Maskottchen. Ich sehe ihn schon mit einem schicken Fedora -- nachdem er wieder aufwacht natürlich.

    Jools, warst du's, die schon ein Fahrrad gestohlen bekommen hatte? (von der ein Fahrrad schon gestohlen wurde? geraubt? Aaack ...)

    Lore??? *besorgtsei* Hoffentlich hast du doch niemanden erwürgt ...

    @SD3 re #70 geschenktes Bagel: *g*

    Ja, irgendwie scheint die Sache mit den St****n und der Website sich geregelt zu haben. Hoffentlich.

    Von der Rechtschreibreform mag ich die neue ß-Regel, aber die Zusammen- vs. Getrenntschreibung finde ich auch bei weitem verwirrender als früher.

    Sogar Deutsche kann man nicht immer ruhig fragen, zumal die Hälfte davon genauso verwirrt zu sein scheint wie wir. (-;



    #158Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 10 Nov. 09, 02:56
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    With the spelling reform they really had carried the adjustments to excess.

    Die Rote Zora und ihre Bande is a really good book for young people. Wikipedia has a short article about it:
    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_rote_Zora_un...
    Might be worthwhile to reread [or worthwhile rereading?]
    #159Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 10 Nov. 09, 03:49
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    November 10, 2009 is the 250th birthday of Friedrich Schiller

    An die Freude.
    Friedrich Schiller (1759-1805)

    Freude, schöner Götterfunken,
    Tochter aus Elisium,
    Wir betreten feuertrunken
    Himmlische, dein Heiligthum.
    Deine Zauber binden wieder,
    was der Mode Schwerd getheilt;
    Bettler werden Fürstenbrüder,
    wo dein sanfter Flügel weilt.

    [...]
    http://de.wikisource.org/wiki/An_die_Freude_(...
    #160Verfasser Norbert Juffa (236158) 10 Nov. 09, 06:02
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    Alle Guten, alle Bösen
    folgen ihrer Rosenspur.
    Küße gab sie uns und Reben
    einen Freund, geprüft im Tod.
    Wollust ward dem Wurm gegeben ...
    [...]
    Schließt den heilgen Zirkel dichter,
    schwört bei diesem goldnen Wein:
    Dem Gelübde treu zu sein,
    schwört es bei dem Sternenrichter
    [...]
    Eine heitre Abschiedsstunde!
    süßen Schlaf im Leichentuch!
    Brüder - einen sanften Spruch
    Aus des Todtenrichters Munde!

    Quite depressing, beyond the ingeniousity. Even the worm seems to be better off.

    The corncrake
    Still not migrated south
    the empty bottle of Merlot inane to dwell
    It creeps toward its bettgestell
    #161Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 10 Nov. 09, 07:05
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    @hm--us
    Warst du es, der ein Fahrrad gestohlen wurde?
    Warst du es, der man ein Fahrrad gestohlen hat?

    Both versions are grammatically correct, but the first one appears (in my feeling) a bit confusing because the "der" could be misunderstood in the first moment as a male pronoun, and you only notice that it is a passive construction when you come to the end of the sentence.
    The second version avoids that a bit, but I think I would put the whole sentence different:
    Hattest du uns nicht erzählt, dass dir ein Fahrrad gestohlen wurde?

    Hi W5! Nice to meet you! Another member of the letter/number-nick family!
    #162Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 10 Nov. 09, 07:22
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    Good Morning :oD

    SD Yes, the snowflakes lost their way. I live in the mountains, but not so high mountains. 600 meters
    My weekend was very fine. But the time is too quickly passing by.
    That's the season, I like it. When outside it's cold, wet and uncomfortable, then it's very fine in a nice home with a cup hot tee, a candle and the fireside glimmering warm. I hope, that's will soon snowing. The winterseason's still nicer :-))
    #163Verfasser Bommelchen (644579) 10 Nov. 09, 07:47
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    Danke, Goldammer, das war es, was ich wissen wollte: wie man das eigentlich normalerweise sagt.

    *f5* Guten Morgen, Bommelchen, was für ein schönes Bild. Aber hier haben wir immer noch Herbst (und immer noch um die 75°). Als ich heute eine Strecke mit dem Auto gefahren bin, habe ich das erste Herbstlaub des Jahres gesehen.

    —> I hope (that) it will snow soon.


    >>Even the worm seems to be better off.

    (-:

    oder eher: \-: *wrysmile*




    #164Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 10 Nov. 09, 07:54
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    Good morning snails!

    My neighbours had ice on their windscreen yesterday and it's just beginning of November, quite unusual!
    Today it was quite warm again. I would really love some snow, but I don't think we will get some this winter, not after what happened at the beginning of this year (15 cm). Two years with snow are highly unusual.

    Hope you all have a great week and are not busier than I am. *having lots of things to do*
    #165Verfasser Emily Chambers (310963) 10 Nov. 09, 08:43
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    Good morning,

    does anyone else have the same prblem as I do? Almost everytime I log in I get thrown out while opening the chatroom. It is pretty annoying.

    @hm-us: Thanks for asking, yes my son is fine again. The bulge(?) which started developping immediately after his fall is almost gone now. All you can see is a little bruise under his chin. By the way you wouldn't happen to live in NJ?

    Concerning "rote Zora": When I was a kid(seventies)there was a TV-series called "Die rote Zora und ihre Bande". I quite enjoyed it. Doesn't anyone else remember it? I know I watched too much TV.

    When it comes to the "Rechtschreibreform" I am also quite confused. I remember seeing in a newspaper article a sentence starting: "Sie waren wohl erzogen." (That was before the reform of the reform) It was an article about well raised kids. But due to the reform the sentence to me meant something completely different.

    #166VerfasserStarlet (329597) 10 Nov. 09, 09:25
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    Starlet, IMO this is no consequence of the reform, it's just wrong. If I remember correctly there is no verb "wohlerziehen" but the word "wohlerzogen" is an adjective which is one word.
    #167Verfasser neutrino (17998) 10 Nov. 09, 10:59
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    Guten Morgen, Schnecken!

    Ich bin schon geradelt (OK im Keller nur), habe schon gefrühstückt, und jetzt weiß ich nicht, wie ich die Zeit vertreiben bzw. sinnvoll nutzen soll, bevor ich ins Büro fahren muss. Mit Online-Banking vielleicht.

    @Starlet: bulge -> bump
    Kennst du NJ?
    #168Verfasser SD3 (451227) 10 Nov. 09, 11:26
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    Wow, how active, SD3, so early in the morning!
    I'm very low-energy at the moment, generally. I have such resistances against getting things done. Sort of novembry mood, I guess...

    *pushing myself towards my huge basket with washing to be folded and sorted* Bääh! Koi Luscht!
    #169Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 10 Nov. 09, 11:51
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    Thanks SD3, bulge sounded weired, but with no explanations, it was difficult to decide. (We won't tell anyone that I have a cupboard full of dictionaries sitting right next to my desk.)

    If I say I know NJ, it would be too much. However I have a friend living there and during my time as an au-pair I went to visit him 3 or 4 times. I expecially liked the view you had from the NJ side of Hudson River onto the Statue of Liberty. There was a park there. Just don't ask me what it was called.
    #170VerfasserStarlet (329597) 10 Nov. 09, 13:47
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    @wachtelkönig: You are the first person I have met who considers Schiller's "Ode to Joy" depressing. Care to explain?

    I wonder whether there are any special celebrations on the occasion of Schiller's 250th birthday. I am looking forward to a full report from our resident Swabians :-)
    #171Verfasser Norbert Juffa (236158) 10 Nov. 09, 17:34
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    I wonder whether there are any special celebrations on the occasion of Schiller's 250th birthday.
    No time for celebration, I have to work at my desk at this time of the day, while crumblercito's fast asleep.

    wachtelkönig: You are the first person I have met who considers Schiller's "Ode to Joy" depressing. Care to explain?
    I guess the main reason is that he hasn't got enough inspiration yet.
    Here's some more inspiration for WK:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS6rOzCrWD0
    (Being stuck in a pillar box is less depressing than Schiller's ode, isn't it? Tongue in cheek, of course.)

    To those who are waiting for some lines: I plea for clemency...
    #172Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 10 Nov. 09, 20:33
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    Well, in the light of day the Ode to Joy is looking a little bit more cheerful. Here the autumn leaves are mostly filled in big paper bags standing along the streets.
    #173Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 10 Nov. 09, 21:11
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    Are you insinuating that being stuck in a pillar box is less thrilling than Schiller's ode???

    Need to go on with my stuff now,
    cheerio!
    #174Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 10 Nov. 09, 21:18
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    There was a "Festakt" in Marbach, Schiller's birth town, today. The Schiller museum there has been restored for the last two years or so and was reopened today by Federal President Köhler who held a speech about the importance of literature and poetry in which he praised Schiller as "poet of freedom" and called him "Germany's first pop star".

    http://www.zeit.de/newsticker/2009/11/10/iptc...
    #175Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 10 Nov. 09, 21:55
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    Hi Cookie und WK :-)

    Heute in dem Linguistikseminar hat uns der Dozent erzählt, Deutsche würden ein Problem haben "bet" und "bat" so auszusprechen, dass man sie als unterschiedliche Wörter erkennt. Ich persönlich verstehe das nicht - schließlich kann man "Katze" sagen. Er fragte mich, ob ich den Kindern Apple beibringen wollte. Alle lachten! Ich meinte, es wäre allemal besser als Äpple und schließlich würden ganz viele Engländer es so aussprechen - und wenigstens könnte man es verstehen (im Gegensatz zu "Äpple").

    *edit* Hi Goldammer :-)
    #176Verfasser suziq (315879) 10 Nov. 09, 22:26
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    à propos 'Äppelwoi': Is this 'ä' in the  änswer of my fränd the same sound for English ears, too??


    [to me]  English pronunciation - pooooh! Especially all those 573 * differences between a and e :-(( 

    * not including the variations of Australia, New Zealand, Louisiana and South Africa!
    A man from New Zealand introduced his wife as 'Sierə' .
    An American from South Carolina called his daughter 'Mahli'.
    They ladies turned out to be Sarah and Molly!!
        [ / to me]
    #177Verfasser manni3 (305129) 10 Nov. 09, 22:45
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    @manni3 - I guess I would be careful using German sounds like "pooooh!". :-)

    Thank you all for your very warm welcome. I'm feeling honoured. Would not have expected to be recognised.

    Looking forward to contributing more here in the CC and getting to know you all.
    #178Verfasser w5 (de) (250079) 11 Nov. 09, 00:14
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    Good evening, w5. I am very sorry, there is still your e-mail, probably two or three meters down in my inbox, to which I should finally respond.
    #179Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 11 Nov. 09, 00:23
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    Wachtelkönig, no worries. Take your time. I'm looking forward to hearing from you. But please don't stress yourself.
    #180Verfasser w5 (de) (250079) 11 Nov. 09, 00:30
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    Willkommen w5 :-D

    @männi - schon klar, aber gerade dieser Dozent ist absolut auf RP besessen.
    #181Verfasser suziq (315879) 11 Nov. 09, 00:44
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    Thank you for your understanding of our difficulties, sjuziq ;-)

    corr.:
    I think it should be    auf RP versessen*. I hope he is not    von RP besessen** ;-)

    DWDS:
    *    versẹssen / hartnäckig, unbeirrbar auf etw. bedacht, etw. an-, erstrebend:
       ein auf peinlichste Genauigkeit versessener Pedant;

    **     besẹssen / von etw. ergriffen
       a) (von bösen Geistern) besessen, von bösen Geistern ergriffen, wahnsinnig;
       b) von einer Leidenschaft, Idee besessen, von einer Leidenschaft, Idee ganz erfüllt:
       von Stolz, Furcht, Ehrgeiz, Fleiß, Wahrheitsliebe, einem Wunsch, Wahn besessen sein;
    #182Verfasser manni3 (305129) 11 Nov. 09, 01:12
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    @manni3: Is this 'ä' in the änswer of my fränd the same sound for English ears, too?? Eigentlich nicht, aber friend spricht er schon etwas eigenartig aus.

    @Starlet: Meinst du etwa Liberty State Park?
    http://www.state.nj.us/dep/parksandforests/vi...

    Hallo w5!

    Schneit's immer noch Bommelchen? Hier hatten wir heute sehr angenehme Temperaturen - 15°/16°.

    Ein paar Korr.:
    #175: Festakt -> ceremony (Ist zwar keine Korrektur, denn du hast es ja gar nicht übersetzt. So was! ;-))
    Schiller's (birth) native town/city
    The Schiller museum there had been restored during the last two years or so
    who held a speech -> gave/delivered/made

    #172: I plead for (zu schnell getippt?)

    #170: sounded weir(e)d (auch zu schnell getippt?

    Heute früh musste ich an einem Webinar, oder wie auch immer so etwas heißt, teilnehmen. Man hängt eine Stunde lang am Telefon und muss gleichzeitig alles auf dem Bildschirm verfolgen. Es war eine Katastophe. Die Hälfte der Teilnehmer konnten nicht einloggen. Jedesmal wenn einer versucht hat, sich einzuwählen, hat es am Telefon so laut gepiepst, dass einem die Ohren weh getan haben. Die Moderatorin kannte sich mit der Technik nicht aus und wusste nicht, wie man die Teilnehmer stumm schaltet. Also habe ich mehrere private Handygespäche mitgehört. Interessant war keins davon. :-) Bis das Ganze zu Ende war, wusste ich kaum noch, worüber die Präsentation handelte.

    Heute Nachmittag war auch interessant. Es kam ein Berater. Er sollte mich befragen, um Daten für ein Projekt zu sammeln. Es ist mir aufgefallen, dass er auf Notizblock und Stift verzichtete. Welche Schlüsse soll ich daraus ziehen? Meine Informationen sind überhaupt nicht wichtig? Der Berater hat ein ganz tolles Gedächtnis? Er war verwanzt? *g*

    Das Lied des versessenen Dozenten (nach der Dietrich)
    Ich bin vom Kopf bis Fuß
    Auf RP eingestellt.
    Das ist meine Welt,
    Und sonst gar nichts. ♫

    Akzente umschwirren mich
    Wie Motten um das Licht.
    Wenn sie verhallen,
    Ja dafür kann ich nichts.

    Ich bin vom Kopf bis Fuß
    Auf RP eingestellt.
    Das ist meine Welt,
    Und sonst gar nichts. ♫
    #183Verfasser SD3 (451227) 11 Nov. 09, 01:34
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    Hallo. Das Lied habe ich zuerst von Peter, Paul und Mary gehört. So höre ich es immer noch am liebsten.

    *w5 wink* Schön, dass du hier teilnimmst. Wir freuen uns immer über neue Crosschatter.

    *müde sei*
    #184Verfasser Amy-MiMi (236989) 11 Nov. 09, 03:21
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    A wonderful Good Morning :oD

    Sadly it isn't snowing more. But 16/17 degree's isn't a pleasent temperature. It's neither fish nor fowl :-)) *fun* :-)) May I ask, where do you live? Perhaps we have 3 degrees plus and it isn't fine outside. I'd wish my warm bed back. I'd like cuddle in my blanket, but my boss is a Slavedriver. :-) [whisper] It's my husband [whisper]
    #185Verfasser Bommelchen (644579) 11 Nov. 09, 06:22
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    @Goldammer: Thanks for the report. So it sounds like a few celebratory events took place, but not on a massive scale.

    @SD3: I'd go for the "good memory" hypotheses. How long did the gentleman talk to you? I do 45 min job interviews quite frequently, and I never take notes. As long as I write down the relevant information within a few hours after the interview, I have no trouble recalling everything in sufficient detail.

    At some point in the past, I had a job with significant customer interaction, and on various occasions I would go out with an account manager to talk to a customer about technical issues. These visits would typically last for one and a half to two hours (face time with the customer). I don't recall ever taking notes, and produced my report on a visit later the same day, with plenty of details including numbers.

    I wouldn't claim to have a particular good memory overall, but I find that taking notes actually _reduces_ my ability to accurately piece together what transpired later. The reason may be that it is hard to listen carefully and jot down notes at the same time.
    #186Verfasser Norbert Juffa (236158) 11 Nov. 09, 06:27
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    @SD3
    *blush* Do you know what I practised with my 8th grader English student in our last tutoring lesson? Use of past perfect...one thing happening before another one which is also in the past...good example sentence:
    The museum reopened after it had been restored.

    re taking notes:
    I think it is a matter of personal style. I am doing quite a lot of interviews, too, of which I have to write reports afterwards, and I couldn't imagine doing it without taking notes. I'd claim that with my time-tested system of taking notes I can listen carefully at the same time.
    #187Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 11 Nov. 09, 07:38
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    It's definitely a matter of personal preference whether one takes notes or not. I never meant to imply anything else. I just wanted to point out that one can gather a lot of information without taking notes in the meeting itself, so SD3 should not be concerned that her input was for nought just because her counterpart took no written notes.

    The one situation where I do need to keep notes is when I get confronted with a lot of unfamiliar information in a short amount of time. This happened a lot at the university, where some of my classes certainly resembled drinking from a firehose.
    #188Verfasser Norbert Juffa (236158) 11 Nov. 09, 09:35
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    @ taking notes: For me it's a question of age!
    Nowadays I hardly remember where I have put my notes about the interview with Mr. ...    
        
        
        
                                                           - how was his name?? !!
    #189Verfasser manni3 (305129) 11 Nov. 09, 10:03
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    *quickly sliming through*

    I'm a huge fan of notes and wouldn't remember half of what was on a meeting without it, while Mr. Lore hardly ever uses a pen for anything and still wouldn't forget anything. Except for birthdays, names, addresses, appointments, things to do or things to buy.... ;-)

    @hm--us No one throttled so far, don't you worry.
    #190Verfasser Lore (236345) 11 Nov. 09, 10:14
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    Good morning everyone.
    I went home early from work on monday and stayed at home in bed all day yesterday. Although I only feel a little bit better today I just had to go back to work, because more than one day at home drives me crazy. There is only so much TV-programme I can bear. And planning the holiday further isn't that effective, if you have to wait 16hours to get a reply for roomrate enquiries.

    So now I am back in the office, at least for a couple of hours, but didn't have time to read all the latest postings here thoroughly.

    But to answer some questions: The waiting is officially over. I have to work again now.

    And no, I am one of the rare lucky one, whose bike has not been stolen - yet *touch wood*. But because nearly everyone I know had his/her bike stolen at least once, I am super careful. In fact I have two bikes. One really old, shabby and more or less broken one, which I turned into a single-speed and use to go to work with (although not today, because every little step makes me dizzy, not to think of real exercise). I use this one, because I need to chain it outside the building, where it has to remain all day.
    The other one I have is a really really really nice and expensive custom-made (i.e. I built it myself) fixed-wheely at home, which I very much love and only use at the weekends and only when I know I am not staying anywhere or have to leave it outside. I love this bike too much that I want to take the tiniest risk of having it stolen. Hence, at home, it lives in the living-room with the other expensive bikes.

    Oh and the nephew was nice. Very easy-going and no trouble at all. But he also was a typical teenager. Quite arrogant, very naive and spreading his stuff all over the place as soon as he arrived. ;) But he was a clever guy and probably in about 2 or 3 years, he'll be really cool. :)
    #191Verfasser Jools (432226) 11 Nov. 09, 12:13
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    *inKorrekturmodussei*
    @Jools: Monday. "There is only so much TV I can bear" (Konzept von TV - dass du die Sendungen meinst, wäre doch klar). Alternative: I can only bear a certain amount of TV/certain number of TV-programmes.
    "...everyone I know has had his/her bike stolen at least once."

    Jetzt ist die hektische Hälfte der Woche vorbei, und ich hoffe, dass ich es schaffe, bis Sonntag alle Testvorbereitungen (Schule) und Uni-Leseaufgaben zu erledigen. Das ist vielleicht ein wenig ehrgeizig, aber ich darf einfach nichts schleifen lassen.

    #192Verfasser suziq (315879) 11 Nov. 09, 12:49
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    @Jools
    *being curious*
    How many nice and expensive bikes exactly do you share your living room with? ;-)
    #193Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 11 Nov. 09, 13:24
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    #194Verfasser manni3 (305129) 11 Nov. 09, 13:29
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    @suzi: Thank you and D'oh! I verschmlimmbesserte "there is only so much TV I can bear" ;).

    @Goldammer: Do you want to come over and steal them while I am on holiday? ;)

    @manni3: Haha! Great. I like the second one. That's a great idea - if I still had a balcony :)
    #195Verfasser Jools (432226) 11 Nov. 09, 15:03
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    @manni - coole Bilder *gg*
    #196Verfasser suziq (315879) 11 Nov. 09, 15:13
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    Hallo Schnecken!

    @Norbert: Danke für deine ermutigenden Worte. Ich bin eben gewohnt, mir ständig Notizen zu machen. Unter den Umständen bin ich aber erleichtert, dass andere das nicht nötig haben.

    @manni3: What was his name?
    Die Bilder gefallen mir auch. Wie holt man wohl die Räder vom Balkon runter?

    @Lore: مرحباً
    was on a meeting ?? happened at a meeting?

    @Bommelchen: Was die Temperaturen angeht, bin ich anderer Meinung. 16° um diese Jahreszeit finde ich ausgesprochen angenehm. Der nächste Winter kommt bestimmt, aber lieber erst im Dezember oder im Januar.
    Zu deiner Frage: Ich wohne ungefähr anderthalb Stunden von New York entfernt.
    it isn't snowing any more
    16/17 degree(')s isn't a pleasant temperature
    I'd wish my warm bed back. -> I wish I was back in my warm bed.
    #197Verfasser SD3 (451227) 12 Nov. 09, 01:50
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    Good evening, SD3!
    I find 16°C not very warm. Over the weekend we had very nice weather. There were many people wearing even short pants, when I briefly cycled through downtown on Saturday.
    #198Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 12 Nov. 09, 02:34
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    Hallo Wachtelkönig!
    Kurze Hose im November? Ich nehme an, dass das ein ungewöhnlicher Anblick ist. Hier soll es in den nächsten Tagen stürmisch werden. Der tropische Sturm Ida steuert auf uns zu. Wir sind angehalten, uns auf viel Regen gefasst zu machen.
    #199Verfasser SD3 (451227) 12 Nov. 09, 03:06
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    The NOAA website predicts two more sunny days with 60 and 65 degrees Fahrenheit. Only the weekend looks very rainy. But since on American highways there doesn't seem to be much traffic that shouldn't bother too much when we will probably be driving to Michigan on Sunday.
    #200Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 12 Nov. 09, 03:50
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    Das sind sehr schöne Temperaturen zum Reisen, Wachtelkönig (egal, was Bommelchen behaupten mag *g*). Wenig Verkehr? Die NJ Turnpike und die Staten Island Expressway kennst du wohl nicht.
    http://www.ratetheroads.com/NY/I-278_staten-i...
    chronic congestion even during off-peak hours
    Unternimmst du eine Geschäftsreise nach MI, oder machst du ein bisschen Urlaub?

    shouldn't bother us too much on Sunday when we will probably be driving to Michigan (on Sunday).

    Ich muss jetzt ausschalten, Wachtelkönig. Gute Nacht!
    #201Verfasser SD3 (451227) 12 Nov. 09, 04:19
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    Good night, SD3!
    Thanks for the correcturitos - which just seem to have changed slightly. Knew that something was wrong with the word order.
    And it will be sort of a business trip, but a nice one. I actually would have taken vacation if necessary (will probably lose accumulated time anyway, especially if I will do some fieldwork on my elongated winter trip to non-winter countries). One advantage of a peculiar profession.
    #202Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 12 Nov. 09, 04:50
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    @ bikes and balkony - #197: Sisterheart, normally you don't put them down, you put them up - over the balustrade.
    But of course you could put them down with a rope, too - abseiling as we british climbers would call this with a nice Germanism - says LEO ;-))
    #203Verfasser manni3 (305129) 12 Nov. 09, 09:48
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    *quickly waving around*

    @SD3 !السلام عليكم
    #204Verfasser Lore (236345) 12 Nov. 09, 10:06
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    Guten Morgen, Schnecken.

    @Wachtelkönig: Tut mir leid, wenn ich dich verwirrt habe. Die erste Fassung war viel zu kompliziert und überhaupt nicht schön.

    @manni3: Abseiling - das Wort, meine ich, wie die Tätigkeit ist, wissen nur die unternehmenslustigen tigger und Jools - ist toll, gell?
    balcony
    pull them up
    get them down
    British (in allen Fällen - eine Regel ohne Ausnahmen)

    @Lore: Uuups! لا أفهم لا أتكلم العربية
    #205Verfasser SD3 (451227) 12 Nov. 09, 12:03
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    @Lore: Das ist jetzt lustig: Ich wollte noch was hinzufügen, aber es war alles verkehrt rum - die linke Klammer wurde als rechte Klammer angezeigt, usw.

    Was ich schreiben wollte: Ich kann nur das, was wiki auch kann, also das zweite (oder ist es doch das erste?) Teil von dem, was du geschrieben hast, verstehe ich leider nicht.

    Setzt man eigentlich einen Punkt am Ende eines Satzes? Wie sieht es überhaupt mit der Interpunktion aus?
    #206Verfasser SD3 (451227) 12 Nov. 09, 12:17
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    SD3 Good morning. As far as I know from these very few lessons that I've had so far interpunction is pretty much like we're used to it. (No clue about commas, though.)

    I wrote "as-s-salamu alaykum" which simply means peace be with you and is one of the many many ways to say "Hello". I wanted to write Good morning but my computer doesn't support Arabic scripts so I had to copypaste what I was able to find. :-)
    #207Verfasser Lore (236345) 12 Nov. 09, 12:41
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    Oh yes. Abseiling is great :) Which reminds me.. I should do it again some time. Haven't been climbing for a while..

    Ahh... talking about degrees and holidays. It's actually quite nice here today. Last night it was freeeeeeezing cold and raining. Most horrible of weathers. But today it's all sunny, not one cloud in the sky and the air feels fresh... well as fresh at it can be in a metropolis with heavy traffic problems ;)
    But.. I have to say it again, sorry.. I can't wait to skip this grey winter for a month and spend xmas in the sun on a lovely white sandy beach :D

    Ok.. I better get back to work now. Haven't really done anything yet and it's almost noon already. My attention got caught in the hilarious Karotte-Thred here in QZ....
    #208Verfasser Jools (432226) 12 Nov. 09, 12:44
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    Hello everyone!

    Just dropping by to give a life sign after having neglected my chatting activities for a while. I've got a rather special visitor round at the moment, so I'm slightly distracted ;-) He has just started to learn (learning?) German and it is beautiful to see someone making their first steps in a new language. I'm so proud.

    Went to see the new Tarantino movie and absolutely loved it. I haven't been so gripped by a movie in a while and some parts of it are just hilarious while others are shocking. And the acting is remarkable.

    Re Abseiling: Both the word and the activity are great I can assure you. I just don't get to do it often enough (climbing and abseiling that is). Manni, are you really a British climber? I mean, obviously you are not British, but do you go rock climbing in Britain? I'd be quite interested to hear about it although I assume your comment was a joke.

    Time to get ready for a day out. The sun has actually made an appearance today :-)

    Have a nice day everyone!
    #209VerfasserZora [de] (593998) 12 Nov. 09, 12:50
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    @Wachtelkönig zu #205: Nur zur Klärung - Ich meinte natürlich meine erste Fassung, nicht deine.

    @Jools: Wo gibt es denn schöne weiße Strände?

    @Zora: Einen ganz speziellen Besuch hast du? Hmmmm :-)
    ... just started to learn German ....

    Also, jetzt gehe ich arbeiten. Einen schönen Tag noch!

    [edit]
    @Zora: Erst jetzt verstehe ich deine Frage. Entweder oder. Started to learn / started learning.
    #210Verfasser SD3 (451227) 12 Nov. 09, 13:45
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    @SD3: In South East Asia (so I was told), where I'll be hopping around with a backpack on my back :D
    #211Verfasser Jools (432226) 12 Nov. 09, 15:33
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    '«Der Blickwinkel als Mutter ist ein anderer, als der meiner Töchter, selbst wenn es derselbe Standort ist», betonte die Künstlerin...' da bin ich angeblich in der Zeitung zitiert worden. Leider hatte ich das nicht gesagt (und so viel hatte ich nicht getrunken, dass ich mich nicht erinnern würde... und auch wenn ich es getan hätte, hätte ich erst recht nicht so einen schlauen Spruch heraus gekriegt!!) Der Reporter hat mir die Worte in den Mund gelegt, weil die Ausstellung "Perspectives" heißt.
    #212Verfasser suziq (315879) 12 Nov. 09, 18:24
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    suziq, a great sentence!

    Even if it's not formulated verbatim by you, it's you and your paintings who made the writer write down your experience!
    #213Verfasser manni3 (305129) 12 Nov. 09, 19:07
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    ...but there is a comma too much in that true if not original sentence by suziq!
    There is no comma before the "als". I can't say why (I'm very tired after an exhausting day).
    #214Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 12 Nov. 09, 19:55
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    @ tired Goldammer: no comma for lack of a second verb.
    But it doesn't belittle the meaning of the sentence :-)
    #215Verfasser manni3 (305129) 12 Nov. 09, 20:13
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    Jools's backpack seems to be quite small. I couldn't hop around carrying the complete travel baggage.
    #216Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 13 Nov. 09, 02:12
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    .. hi there!! *alittlefriendlywavingatWachtelking* *smile*
    #217Verfasser novemberEuel (240499) 13 Nov. 09, 02:19
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    Hi Euel! Long time no see. Hope you're doing well.
    #218Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 13 Nov. 09, 02:28
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    novemberEuel! Wie schön und gerade rechtzeitig. Ich habe ja geahnt, dass du bald wieder vorbeischaust. Ist es dir kalt bzw. neblig genug? :-)

    @Wachtelkönig: Vielleicht hält es Jools bei den Taschen wie bei den Fahrrädern - sie hat zwei davon, die eine größere lässt sie auf dem Hotelzimmer, und die andere kleinere nimmt sie zum Rumspringen mit.
    #219Verfasser SD3 (451227) 13 Nov. 09, 02:30
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    *smile* .. oh yes, I love my favourite month, especially early in the mornings when the mist rises up, white and crisp and dry leaves rustle colourful beneath my feet.
    #220Verfasser novemberEuel (240499) 13 Nov. 09, 03:28
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    Komisch, ich wusste nicht, dass ihr zwei einander kennt. Ich dachte, NovemberEuel ist seit Jahren kaum mehr hier gewesen und SD3 ist noch verhältnismäßig neu.

    Schön aber in der Tat, NovemberEuel wieder mal hier zu sehen. Gerade im Monat mit dem oh so schönen Wetter.

    @WK —> #202 especially if I [will] do some fieldwork on my elongated winter trip
    @manni3 —> #203 you could [put] let them down with a rope, too ... #215 it doesn't [belittle] detract from the meaning of the sentence
    @Lore —> #207 [interpunction] (sentence) punctuation is pretty much like we're used to [it]
    @Zora —> #209 a [life sign] sign of life


    Gute Nacht links, guten Morgen rechts, schönes Herbstlaubgenießen noch.

    #221Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 13 Nov. 09, 05:42
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    Thanks for the correcturito, hm -- us.

    In CC 215 (July 2009) novemberEuel made an appearance. Along with SD3, who mentioned that in the introduction to CC 216. And November is at least much better than December, January and February. But this opinion is subject to change. Depends all on geographic positioning.
    Over here today it was sunny and one could still comfortably cycle through town with just a pullover (but a scarf was necessary).
    #222Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 13 Nov. 09, 06:22
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    Good Morning everyone. It's Friday :D

    @Suziq: that is a nice "quote" ;) The reporter must have liked your exhibition very much. :)

    @Wachtelkoenig and SD3: My backpack takes (I think) 50 or 60litres. So it's not a massive one. I am allowed to carry 15kg with me, but don't think I'll actually be able to carry more than 12kg for a long time. So I will try to keep it down around 10kg... if only the scuba equipment wasn't so heavy. But I just can't stand the idea of borrowing a used snorkel and mouthpiece. *yuk* :(
    #223Verfasser Jools (432226) 13 Nov. 09, 12:46
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    Hallo Schnecken!

    @Wachtelkönig: Du hast CC179 übersehen. (Mensch habe ich ein wahnsinniges Gedächtnis! *g*) Dort hat sich novemberEuel zum Monat November geäußert: (Er) hat ein unwiderstehliches Versprechen von frühmorgenlichen Nebelschwaden. .. ein erwartungsvolles frühes Dunkel ... Diese Beschreibung fand ich sehr schön, z.T. weil ich bis dahin den November nicht besonders gemocht hatte. Jetzt sehe ich ihn anders.

    @hm--us: Denk dir nichts! Man kann nicht alles über jeden wissen. (Zum Glück, oder? *g*)

    @Jools: "Yuk" würde ich auch sagen. Weihnachten am Strand, beim Schwimmen und Tauchen - in der Tat das hört sich wirklich sehr schön an. Du bist zu beneiden.
    #224Verfasser SD3 (451227) 13 Nov. 09, 13:46
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    No no no! Although I sometimes have my problems with the long cold and dark season, I still couldn't imagine spending Christmas on a sunny beach....in this respect, I am a very traditional person and wouldn't want to miss the "right" atmosphere of coldness and a long dark night for Christmas!
    #225Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 13 Nov. 09, 15:19
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    #226Verfasser SD3 (451227) 13 Nov. 09, 15:38
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    Hallo! Heute werde ich mich kurz fassen, sonst werde ich dazu verleitet, mich über die Schüler auszulassen...das wollt ihr nicht!

    @Eulchen - Hallöchen :-) Schön, dich wieder zu "sehen"...wir könnten eigentlich unser "2-Jähriges" feiern! Irgendwie kommt es mir wie eine Ewigkeit vor...erst vor kurzem haben wir darüber geredet...das war ein schönes Wochenende in Köln damals! (Ich weiß, dass wir uns in der Zwischenzeit gesehen haben, aber "das erse Mal" ist immer etwas Besonderes ;-)

    Jetzt muss ich Backrezepte suchen, die meine große Tochter wohl vor zwei Jahren ausgeliehen hat! Warum ist es mein Problem, frage ich mich...die Rezepte sind die Lieblingsrezepte von meiner besten Freundin - Hefte aus einem anderen Jahrhundert und ihr ans Herz gewachsen. Ach Mist!
    #227Verfasser suziq (315879) 13 Nov. 09, 16:05
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    Haha.. why not? Maybe without the costume though ;)

    I am not a christmas person, neither is my family. As a matter of fact, we don't celebrate xmas and all of us really don't like the kitschy xmas atmosphere and the crazy buying-presents frenzy.
    We all rather spend this time somewhere nice than at home where its grey and rainy and depressing, attending greater extended family gatherings only because we have to, not because we want to etc etc.
    Every other year I joined my parents on their "tradition" to go skiing in sunny northern Italy, but I don't like the cold, can't drink as much booze as would be necessary and spending more than 5 days with my parents is just too much. So this year I am travelling through various Asian countries for a month... where it's warm, but not yet too hot and no rain season yet and which, by the way, is much much cheaper than 10days in Portugal or Greece, let alone a skiing holiday over xmas. ;)
    #228Verfasser Jools (432226) 13 Nov. 09, 16:06
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    Did you read this?

     Forums and trainers closed this weekend 

    So look for a nice occupation outside of LEO ;-)
    #229Verfasser manni3 (305129) 13 Nov. 09, 20:02
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    Danke schön für den Hinweis, manni3, das wusste ich gar nicht.
    (Schnell was schreiben muss, solange es noch geht!)
    #230Verfasser SD3 (451227) 13 Nov. 09, 20:07
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    Hello to all snails :-)
    After a long absence I found my way back to the CC and hope to contribute on a more regular basis.
    #231Verfasser Mousy (427643) 13 Nov. 09, 20:28
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    *DominoDayzuentkommenversuch*

    Was ein Glück, dass ich über Psychologie, Linguistik und Error Analysis lesen muss - und "The Tempest" und...OK, OK, Leo wäre doch eine gute Ablenkung gewesen ;-)

    Dann sehen wir uns am Montag wieder :-)

    *edit*
    Hi Mousy!!
    #232Verfasser suziq (315879) 13 Nov. 09, 20:33
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    Hi susiq,
    congratulations on your success with your exhibition. :-)
    #233Verfasser Mousy (427643) 13 Nov. 09, 20:38
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    I say good-bye for one week. Mr Goldammer and I are going on a trip to Brittany to (hopefully) experience real autumn storms on the wild coast of the Atlantic Ocean in the very west of Brittany.
    See you!
    #234Verfasser Goldammer (428405) 13 Nov. 09, 21:54
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    Hi Goldammer!

    Enjoy yourself!
    #235Verfasser candice (447114) 13 Nov. 09, 22:06
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    Wish you all a nice week end!
    #236Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 13 Nov. 09, 22:31
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    *reinschleich" Hallo allerseits.

    hm--us: kannst du mal einen Blick auf diesen Faden werfen? Da gibt es eine Menge irreführender Vorschläge von Leuten, die sich offensichtlich mit dem Thema nicht auskennen. So kompliziert ist es auch wieder nicht, oder?
    Siehe auch: Tonwechsel auf English

    Danke:-).

    *wiederrausschleich*
    #237Verfasser Anne(gb) (236994) 14 Nov. 09, 00:47
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    Hi, Anne, schön, dich wieder zu lesen.

    Den Tonwechselfaden habe ich gelesen, aber ich wüsste nicht, was man da mehr machen könnte, ohne ein bisschen mehr Kontext. 'Change in pitch' hätte wohl für mich gereicht, oder vielleicht 'change from one note to the next'. Mal sehen.

    Gute Nacht links, guten Morgen rechts, bis *schnief* Montag. Hoffentlich wird das Forum besser und nicht schlimmer sein als früher. (-:

    *Daumen für die neue Forumsversion drück*
    #238Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 14 Nov. 09, 08:33
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    Juhu! CC geht wieder...es sieht aber irgendwie ein bisschen komisch anders aus...oder habe ich nur vergessen, wie es war ;-)
    #239Verfasser suziq (315879) 15 Nov. 09, 21:24
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    The latter ;-)
    #240Verfasser judex (239096) 15 Nov. 09, 21:27
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    Welcome back!
    He who rides LEO doesn't like to dismount!

    I have a question:
    Is 'so that' the same as 'sodass / so dass' or do you consider it a false friend?
    #241Verfasser manni3 (305129) 15 Nov. 09, 21:36
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    Jetzt gibt es wenigstens das Stylesheet, aber alles ist immer noch S E H R ... L A N G S A M ... Die Seiten brauchen ewig (? stimmt wohl nicht) zum Laden (im IE 8 bei XP) und wenn ich etwas in dieses Feld eintippe, tauchen die Buchstaben erst mehrere Sekunden später auf den Bildschirm auf. Also falls ich hier nicht schnell wieder poste, wisst ihr warum.

    Die gelben Leisten mit Nick und Datum werden auch manchmal doppelt angezeigt (das Rechteck selbst, nicht der Inhalt), aber nur einige davon. Ich kann bis jetzt kein Muster entdecken, welche betroffen sind, aber mit dem Problem werde ich wenigstens leben können.

    Schön auf jeden Fall, euch wieder zu sehen. (-:




    *f




    5*





    Wenn 'sodass' ähnlich 'damit' ist, dann vielleicht ja.

    Jetzt tauchen die Zeichen one by one auf.

    Sie haben wohl bei Firefox angefangen, wie üblich ...




    *f5* Nö, eigentlich geht es schon viel besser im IE 7 auf meinem eigenen Laptop. Wenn nicht gerade blitzschnell. Vielleicht lag es nur am anderen Computer, aber was muss ich jetzt dort umstellen, das ist die Frage. Wenn ich nur wüsste (na, unter anderem), wie man diese lästigen grünen Webslice-Dingsdas wegkriegt ...

    Entschuldigung, ich scheine ein Selbstgespräch zu führen. Never mind.
    #242Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 15 Nov. 09, 22:06
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    Hi hm--us, here (FF 3.5.5.) everything is fine. It's just the jet-lag - you are 6 hours late.
    Just wait until tomorrow ;-))
    #243Verfasser manni3 (305129) 16 Nov. 09, 01:02
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    Hello! Here from Michigan everything seems to be working.
    #244Verfasser Wachtelkönig (396690) 16 Nov. 09, 04:33
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    Morning!

    @242: Wenn 'sodass' ähnlich 'damit' ist
    I'm positive you were going to say
    Wenn 'sodass' so ähnlich wie 'damit' ist OR ...wenn ... so ähnlich wie ... gebraucht wird...

    Have a nice day!
    #245Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 16 Nov. 09, 06:46
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    Hahahaha.. what a hilarious morning. I want to video-record this and put it on youtube.
    3 of my colleagues are trying to move some big partially broken boxes and folders and they're running around like the three Stooges. I am waiting for one of them to pull the other ones noses...

    What a start of the week.

    The forum looks different now, doesn't it?
    I am still trying to figure out why I can send private messages to some logged-in members, but not all of them...
    #246Verfasser Jools (432226) 16 Nov. 09, 11:29
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    Hi, I feel like I've got lots of work but doen't seem to be progressing at all. That's not so nice and I'm quite unmotivated and spend a lot of time in the Zaehlzimmer, which does not lead to me getting my work done. What a surprise!
    I've saved the snailhouse on my computer to read up over the weekend while LEO was closed, so I'm up to date now.

    Jools, it's just that the users can choose if they want to get messages or not. (I imagine that some people might be glad sooner or later to switch them off.)

    Wachtelkoenig, have you seen the picture under Einfuehrung? Seems like we're going to be famuous one day. ;-)
    #247Verfasser Emily Chambers (310963) 16 Nov. 09, 11:42
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    Wow, new feature "Leo-Mitteilung". Doris & Co seem to have had a busy and successful weekend!

    Hi Jools and Emily!

    Have a great week everyone!

    edit: How mean that they chose a picture where Wachtelkönig is missing the final g. And that after he created the Achtelkönig to avoid exactly this mutilated appearance....
    #248Verfasser Lore (236345) 16 Nov. 09, 11:48
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    Hi Lore!

    ...and I realised that LEO didn't think my English was as good as I thought it was and downgraded me over the weekend. (surprisingly the French did not change.)
    #249Verfasser Emily Chambers (310963) 16 Nov. 09, 11:54
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    Good morning everybody!

    I hope you all had a nice weekend. I certainly did. Went to a classical concert on Friday which is something I hadn't done since I was at school. Absolutely loved it and hereby declare that I shall do it more often.

    And wow, they updated the forum. It seems that everything works fine for me. My English and German language skills disappeared too. I really like the messages feature although I hope that this doesn't mean that half of the conversations will be held in private.

    Have a nice Monday!!!
    #250VerfasserZora [de] (593998) 16 Nov. 09, 12:12
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    Good Morning :oD
    I had a very nice weekend. I hope, you all too.

    Hihi SD, now we have 15 degree(?s) too and that looks so:
    The weather is terrible. It's raining the every time and everywhere is it wet and dirty. That's I don't like.
    I must walk with my dogs trough the forest every day and that is the one weather, what I formal hate.
    :-)
    But, I think. It will us harden so :-) and we will accept it. And so we are healty and, perhaps it that the reason we will very very old


    #251Verfasser Bommelchen (644579) 16 Nov. 09, 12:33
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    @Suziq: Didn't you ask for common transfer mistakes a few days ago?
    I just remembered one, which I can't get out of my head, although I KNOW it's wrong. But if I don't pay attention I will always say: "self-made bread". And the moment, I hear the words leave my mouth I cringe and correct myself to: "I mean, home-made bread". ;)

    Although I like the picture of bread that totally bakes itself. ;)
    #252Verfasser Jools (432226) 16 Nov. 09, 14:11
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    @jools - Lustig, dass du das jetzt erwähnst...ich sitze hier und warte, dass das Seminar anfängt...und ob wir überhaupt dran kommen, weil es letzte ausgefallen ist. Ich merkte, dass während des Vortragens mir alle Beispiele entfallen. Also danke für noch eins *indenÄrmelsteck* ;-)
    #253Verfasser suziq (315879) 16 Nov. 09, 14:14
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    Hi snails!

    Nice new look ... still haven't tried the new features. And the speed is now really snailish, reminds me of my pre-DSL-times ...
    #254Verfasser atalante (480508) 16 Nov. 09, 16:25
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    ... reminds me of my Atari TT - CPU with legendary 32 MHz ;-))
    16 years after ... hmmm ...
    #255Verfasser manni3 (305129) 16 Nov. 09, 17:37
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    Tja...wir sind nicht dran gekommen - und der Vortrag von heute war einfach nur grausig :-(
    #256Verfasser suziq (315879) 16 Nov. 09, 21:50
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    Hi snails,
    Hi suziq, manni and atalante, How are things going?

    @253:
    dass während des Vortragens mir alle Beispiele entfallen
    Not wrong, but this version sounds more natural:
    dass mir während des Vortragens/ Vortrags alle Beispiele entfallen.
    #257Verfassercookie crumbler (484354) 16 Nov. 09, 22:10
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    Hi Cookie :-D
    #258Verfasser suziq (315879) 16 Nov. 09, 22:27
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    Hi manni!
    Only 16 years???

    Hi suziq!
    Sounds awful!

    Hi cookie!
    How's crumbling?
    #259Verfasser atalante (480508) 16 Nov. 09, 22:30
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    ... and what cookies tonight?

    atalante the platinum gown: 16 years of ATARI and still an emulator in my window of Windows :-))

    suziq: pronouns first in the subordinate clause (easy to remember, isn't it?) :-)
    #260Verfasser manni3 (305129) 16 Nov. 09, 22:32
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    manni, so ATARI is for you what the C64 was for me (and I also still love those games ...)

    Got to sleep now, good night everybody!
    #261Verfasser atalante (480508) 16 Nov. 09, 23:35
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    Hi, Quail King. Wie lange bleibst du in Michigan? Bist du noch am Wochenende da? Wenn ja, dann könnte ich vielleicht extra gen Osten fahren *breit grins*. Wenn nicht, dann sehen wir uns wahrscheinlich nicht, es sei denn, du möchtest mich in der fast möbellosen Wohnung besuchen.

    *atalante hinterher wink* Schlaf schön.

    @suzi: Grausige Vorträge. Das tut mir Leid. Wann seid ihr dran?

    *manni3, Jools, Bommelchen, Zora, Emily, Lore grüß*
    #262Verfasser Amy-MiMi (236989) 17 Nov. 09, 01:56
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    So it's Tuesday already. You know that Tuesday is quite literally translated from Dienstag? Dienst-tag and Tu-es-day. *gg*

    Those games where great! Never seen such a good and simple tetris implementation as in the early computer days.
    #263Verfasser Emily Chambers (310963) 17 Nov. 09, 07:22
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    Good morning, you all!
    @ the early computer days - C64
    I still use the Atari-emulator for all my working material. Small, fast, safe programs which never (never!!) crash. I will start it now and print out some work sheets - bye-bye ;-)
    #264Verfasser manni3 (305129) 17 Nov. 09, 08:41
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    Good morning!

    I'm not sure if I already shared this with you: Stand by me - Playing for change

    A very nice day to all Atari and C64 lovers ;-)
    #265Verfasser Lore (236345) 17 Nov. 09, 09:33
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    Hallo Schnecken!

    Alte Rechner? Ich habe schon mal erwähnt, dass wir einen Apple IIE im Keller haben. Warum frage ich mich nur.

    Das ist ein schönes Lied, Lore.

    @atalante: Bei mir läuft Leo auch sehr langsam. :-(

    Hallo Mousy! Was macht der Herbst dort unten? Hier war es gestern wunderschön.

    Also Bommelchen, gegen 15 Grad hast du wohl nichts, oder, nur gegen den Regen und die matschigen Forstwege? Wieviele Hunde hast du denn?

    @Zora: Klassische Musik höre ich sehr gern. Was stand auf dem Program?

    Ein paar Korr:
    #264: working material -> material(s) for work / classroom material(s) / teaching material(s)

    #251: now we have 15 degree(?s) too and that looks so: ->
    now it is (oder it's) 15 degrees (mit 's') here too, and that looks like this:

    So, jetzt gehe ich frühstücken.

    #266Verfasser SD3 (451227) 17 Nov. 09, 12:47
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    Hello all :)

    Speaking of old computers. I still have a fully functioning C64 with a HUGE disc drive and even a cassette drive stored at my parent's house. Together with hundreds of discs with all sorts of games, which I inherited from all my cousins.
    A few years ago I digged the C64 out again and spent an entire weekend playing Gianna Sisters (the forerunner of Mario Bros). It was great, but after 2 days I had enough and was frustrated because I had forgotten where all the secret gifts and elevators were, which allow you to skip a few levels and get through the game faster...
    #267Verfasser Jools (432226) 17 Nov. 09, 12:59
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    Oh, we never had a C64 or Atari, but my best friend did. Of course, whenever I was at her's I wanted to play with it but she only very reluctantly let me play cause she pretended that she was bored of it. The truth was that she just wanted it all to herself. Luckily my dad did buy a PC (a better one than a C64) eventually. I remember how much I loved Prince of Persia. I tried to play it online the other day but it just wasn't the same. I got killed after 3 minutes and had forgotten all the keys, how to do the jumps and movements and where to go. So I lost patience pretty quickly.

    @ SD3: They were playing Grieg's Orchestral Suite No. 1 (Peer Gynt), Violin Concerto in D minor, Op. 47 by Jean Sibelius and Symphony No. 5 in D-minor, Op. 47 by Schostakowitsch. Not too big a fan of the Sibelius but the Schostakowitsch felt like Rock'n Roll in classical music.

    I'm a bit of miserable wretch today. Got a cold and a cystitis. Not pleasant at all. I guess I'll just drink loads of tea, watch old tv series on Youtube, hang out here a bit and wait for it all to get better :-(
    #268VerfasserZora [de] (593998) 17 Nov. 09, 13:56
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    Föööööhn over Munich: 70° F!!
    And I can really enjoy it - no headache :-))
    #269Verfasser manni3 (305129) 17 Nov. 09, 15:23
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    @Zora: I hope you get better soon. Cystitis is very unpleasant. I can recommend drinking lots of beer, gin&tonic or/and Apfelschorle. ;)


    #270Verfasser Jools (432226) 17 Nov. 09, 15:29
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    Mornin' snails :-),
    Hi SD3, We had some truly miserable days last week. Literally "Land unter", but now we are back to indian summer the way it should be. Everything is just glowing in all shades of red, yellow and orange. That's why fall is my favourite time of the year.
    #271Verfasser Mousy (427643) 17 Nov. 09, 15:40
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    Good evening you all :oD

    SD
    I would lie, if I say I don't like it. Of course it's pleasent, when you not must wearing a coat or thick pullover.
    In general I like the autumn, with all his colours and belles. But, I like it more, if the temperature is orderly cold. I like it, when I'm frozen through and after the walk I have a hot tea or hot spiced wine. Special I like it, I lying in the bathtub and the frozen hands and legs prick, if they will warm. I like the winter a little bit more as the autumn :-))

    Mousy
    Nice I read you here. I was a quiet reader in your non-smoke thread :-) How are you? Have you a good job now?
    #272Verfasser Bommelchen (644579) 17 Nov. 09, 17:51
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    Jools, thanks for your suggestions. Gin & Tonic sounds just like my cup of tea ;-) I'll drag myself to the supermarket now and then cook a nice comforting chicken soup. On days like these I just wish I were 10 years old and at home with my mum.
    #273VerfasserZora [de] (593998) 17 Nov. 09, 17:55
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    Norrrrther über dem Süden, heute nacht 45° F! Und mit Herbstlaub.
    Ich würde es auch genießen, wenn ich nicht so viel zu tun hätte.

    @SD3 & atalante & wen auch immer: Wenn der neue LEO bei euch wirklich langsam ist (IE 8 etwa? XP? Norton?), hoffe ich, dass ihr das auch dem LEO-Team berichtet; keine Ahnung, ob sie jemals hier mitlesen.

    Gute Besserung, Zora. Eher kein Gin, hätte ich gesagt, dafür jede Menge Nichtalkoholisches, Tee, Tee, Tee, Wasser, Wasser, Wasser ...


    Hoffentlich denkt jemand schon an Basteln ... Wer wollte nochmal?




    #274Verfasser hm -- us (236141) 17 Nov. 09, 18:22
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    Don't know if anyone volunteered but I could make one..

    *looking for a number to post* [to me] I spend too much time counting [/to me]
    #275Verfasser Emily Chambers (310963) 17 Nov. 09, 19:12
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    Danke für das Mitleid bezüglich des grausigen Vortrags ;-) Wir sind nächste Woche dran - bis dahin habe ich wahrscheinlich noch 5x an meiner Präsentation herumgebastelt, damit sie noch 10 Minuten länger wird ;-) Hmmph!

    Danke, Emily, dass du basteln möchtest :-)
    #276Verfasser suziq (315879) 17 Nov. 09, 19:47
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    Good evening dear snails.

    Du you remember me? It's me, the little particle ...

    I hope you're all well!?
    #277Verfasser neutrino (17998) 17 Nov. 09, 19:52
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    neutrino, I think I remember you from posting 88. Are you the same?

    suziq, think positive. After the last talk nobody will expect you to be perfect as long as you are better than the last one. ;-)
    #278Verfasser Emily Chambers (310963) 17 Nov. 09, 19:55
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    O o, it seems so. Err, and I asked the same question. Seems as if I should look for a new slogan ...

    Something like: Hey, I'm back, you don't have to miss me any longer ... *gg*
    #279Verfasser neutrino (17998) 17 Nov. 09, 20:00
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    neutrino, I've just been looking though the postings to find some hochlichter.


    here's the next one:
    Siehe auch: Crossover Chat 225
    #280Verfasser Emily Chambers (310963) 17 Nov. 09, 20:01
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    Hi Bommelchen,
    nice to see you here :-)
    Yes I got my old job back and I couldn't be happier. I'm still not smoking :-)
    #281Verfasser Mousy (427643) 17 Nov. 09, 20:04
     
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