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    medienübergreifend

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    eine medienübergreifende Debatte
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    Ich nehme an "intermedia debate" ist keine besonders gute Lösung. Was meint Ihr denn? Danke für Eure Hilfe!
    AuthorTim23 Apr 06, 11:44
    Ergebnisse aus dem Wörterbuch
    intermedia  adj.medienübergreifend
    Suggestionintermedia
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    ich denke, intermedia debate heisst mehr, dass die medien untereinander diskutieren. soll aber wohl heissen, dass sich alle arten von medien mit der debatte beschäftigen oder?
    #1Authorb23 Apr 06, 11:46
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    ja, genau. Würde denn aber "intermedia debate" ausschließlich eine Debatte innerhalb der Medien bezeichnen?
    #2AuthorTim23 Apr 06, 11:53
    Suggestionintermedia
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    meiner bescheidenen persönlichen meinung nach ja. prefix "inter" bezeichnet grundsätzlich, dass zwischen den betroffenen was abläuft (zb. interpersonell). wie wär's mit "a debate throughout the media"?
    #3Authorb23 Apr 06, 11:56
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    ah, okay. wie wäre es denn aber dann mit "transmedial debate"? hm. gibt's bei google aber auch nicht..."debate throughout the media" passt nur sehr schlecht in meine Satzkonstruktion.
    #4AuthorTim23 Apr 06, 12:04
    Suggestionganzer satz
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    na dann her mit dem ganzen satz ;-)
    #5Authorb23 Apr 06, 12:05
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    Okay. Also hier:
    Die Installation "Zentrum" von Dorit Margreiter in der Kiesler Stiftung Wien liefert uns einen Zwischenbericht zu einer medienübergreifenden Auseinandersetzung mit der sozialistischen Architektur des „Brühlzentrums“ in Leipzig (2004/2005).

    Meine Übersetzung soweit:
    The installation Zentrum by Dorit Margreiter in the Kiesler Foundation Vienna provides us with a preliminary report about an "intermedia debate" with the socialistic architecture of the “Brühlzentrum” in Leipzig (2004/2005).
    #6AuthorTim23 Apr 06, 12:08
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    a debate encompassing all different media channels
    a debate involving multiple media outlets
    Comment
    agree with b. Never heard the term "intermedia debate", but I would understand it as b describes. What you need is a "pan-media" debate, but I have never heard of that either and it sounds a little wierd to my ears.
    Your best bet is probably to resort to a description here.

    Maybe someone else can think of a single word translation?
    #7Authorwpr23 Apr 06, 12:12
    Suggestionconcerning all the media
    Comment
    Never underestimate the importance of the context, guys ;-)
    #8Authorunknown_spirit23 Apr 06, 12:14
    Suggestionpan-media
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    well, i think pan-media - even though a new word formation - would be perfectly fine. good idea!
    but it is definately not a debate with. it should be a "debate on".
    #9Authorb23 Apr 06, 12:16
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    @Tim: sorry, I just now saw your context.
    #10Authorwpr23 Apr 06, 12:16
    Comment
    Okay, how does this sound then?

    The installation Zentrum by Dorit Margreiter in the Kiesler Foundation Vienna provides us with a preliminary report of a debate concerning/encompassing all the media with the socialistic architecture of the “Brühlzentrum” in Leipzig (2004/2005).

    Is this okay?
    #11AuthorTim23 Apr 06, 12:21
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    @b: I also think that it should be "debate on"- but I didn't write the German sentence, I'm just supposed to translate it. And "debate with" and "debate on" seem to have very different meanings.
    #12AuthorTIm23 Apr 06, 12:23
    Suggestionsorry
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    ..to have to repeat it. it is not "with" but a "debate on" something.
    apart from that it sounds fine to me, even though i'd still suggest the following:

    The installation "Zentrum" by Dorit Margreiter in the Kiesler Foundation Vienna provides us with a preliminary report of a debate throughout the media on the socialistic architecture of the “Brühlzentrum” in Leipzig (2004/2005).
    #13Authorb23 Apr 06, 12:25
    Suggestiondebate with
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    would be a verb, not a noun.
    #14Authorb23 Apr 06, 12:26
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    Ah, yes, you're right. I think I got confused by the German expression.

    Thank you very much to all of you!
    #15AuthorTim23 Apr 06, 12:30
    Suggestionpleasure
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    it was a pleasure to me. i like those kind of challenges.
    #16Authorb23 Apr 06, 12:32
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    If you are going to use "debate" for Auseinandersetzung, then it is definitely debate on or over. A debate "with" would mean that one form of media was debating with another form.. That is not what is meant here. I think "over" sounds best.

    Seeing it is a relatively educated text, I would consider "pan-media". The sentence is already long and a little clumsy(but not wrong) so using a whole phrase here is a little cumbersome, IMO.

    Also, maybe "preliminary account" would be better than "preliminary report" in this context. A work of art is not really a report, but it can function as an account of something.
    My 2 cents
    #17Authorwpr23 Apr 06, 12:39
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    So, "pan-media" should be fine, even though it's not an entry in the dictionary?
    Thanks again!
    #18AuthorTim23 Apr 06, 12:52
    Suggestionword-formation
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    da bin ich mir ganz sicher. neue wortbildungen sind an der tagesordnung - und waren es immer schon. das ist die sprachkreativität die uns faszinierenderweise allen zu eigen ist. wörterbücher können immer nur einen ausschnitt bringen. und v.a. immer nur punktuell sein. aber sprache ändert sich permanent. sorry für diese exkurs. aber hier spricht die linguistenseele, die ach in meiner brust wohnt.
    #19Authorb23 Apr 06, 12:55
    Suggestiongoogle
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    ausserdem: google mal "panmedia"
    #20Authorb23 Apr 06, 12:56
    Comment
    @b: I like your attitude. :-)
    #21Authorwpr23 Apr 06, 12:58
    Suggestionthanks
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    couldn't possibly hold it back anyway. open for further discussions on this subject any time ;-)
    #22Authorb23 Apr 06, 13:00
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    an die Linguistenseele: vielen Dank für diesen Exkurs. Einem Linguisten traue ich sehr gern über den Weg. ;)
    #23AuthorTim23 Apr 06, 13:08
    Suggestionlinguistin
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    freut mich! dann mal ran ans pan-mediale!
    #24Authorb23 Apr 06, 13:10
     
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