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    Comments you make when a link is tenuous

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    I'm looking for the sort of thing you say when a link is very tenuous.
    What would fit in this gap, for example?

    A: My house looks a bit like Buckingham Palace!
    B: That's a .... comparison! It doesn't really look like Buckingham Palace just because it has lots of windows and is near a roundabout!

    Or what else could B say instead of the italicised part? "That's stretching it a bit!"? That's taking things a bit far!"? Or is there even an idiom? Specifically for tenuous links, not just things that mean "What a load of rubbish!" :-)
    Author CM2DD (236324) 08 Jun 11, 12:36
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    Suchst Du auf Englisch?
    #1Author Lady Grey (235863) 08 Jun 11, 12:39
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    Oh, sorry, yes.
    #2Author CM2DD (236324) 08 Jun 11, 12:40
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    No need to say sorry, CM2DD ;-) I just wanted to make sure ...
    #3Author Lady Grey (235863) 08 Jun 11, 12:42
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    far-fetched?

    (Mind you, CM2DD, I think your own suggestion are anything from fine to perfect.)
    #4Author teflsimone (655257) 08 Jun 11, 12:44
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    presumptuous?
    (apart from the ones I suggested in the other thread)

    oder auch "hubris, thy name is (person who made the ridiculous statement)"
    #5Author Spinatwachtel (341764) 08 Jun 11, 12:53
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    Would anyone else say "That's straining it"?

    And what comparison might you use? That link's as thin/weak as ...?
    #6Author CM2DD (236324) 08 Jun 11, 13:00
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    #5: apart from the ones I suggested in the other thread

    Where's the other thread? :-O
    #7AuthorKinkyAfro (587241) 08 Jun 11, 13:08
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    @#6: Would anyone else say "That's straining it"?

    Yes.

    Also "That's pushing it."

    And what comparison might you use? That link's as thin/weak as ...?

    (I stumble over your use of "link" here, although I know what you mean. I suppose because of its Net use.)

    "That connection's about as flimsy as your négligée."
    "That connection's as tenuous as they come."
    "That connection's as weak as can be."

    @#7: Where's the other thread?

    Other thread:

    related discussion: weit hergeholt (of link/comparison)
    #8AuthorPhillipp08 Jun 11, 13:12
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    I like that flimsy.

    Thanks for all the ideas. Still can't help thinking there's something else I've forgotten - but it might just be, as I sometimes find, that the phrase at the back of my mind is in German, and is possibly even the very one I was trying to translate in the first place :-D
    #9Author CM2DD (236324) 08 Jun 11, 14:05
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    And what comparison might you use? That link's as thin/weak as

    as weak as a really weak thing is our usual cop-out when we can't really think of a proper comparison. Or non-comparisons such as "as weak as a cucumber/pancake/house on fire"...

    (a bit) desperate might be another word I'd use in the circumstances.
    #10Author Spinatwachtel (341764) 08 Jun 11, 14:07
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    I say "That's stretching it."
    It seems to be a trope on sitcoms to something like "If by 'Buckingham Palace' you mean 'one-bedroom dump near the train tracks with an avocado-green kitchen from the 50s" or however you choose to sarcastically describe the inferior house.
    #11AuthorStrawberry (357492) 08 Jun 11, 14:13
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    I'd say:
    Yup, like two peas in a pod!
    Uncanny!
    :)
    #12Authorlaalaa (238508) 08 Jun 11, 14:27
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    :-))
    #13Author Lady Grey (235863) 08 Jun 11, 14:29
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    That's a bit rich!
    Yeah, sure!
    You wish! / In your dreams!
    That's a shonky/dodgy/wild/... comparison
    That's going a bit far
    That's pushing it (a bit)

    #14Author Everytime (425100) 08 Jun 11, 14:36
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    shonky? :-) Nie gehört. Woher kommt das?
    #15Author Lady Grey (235863) 08 Jun 11, 15:20
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    #15: shonky? :-) Nie gehört. Woher kommt das?

    I was wondering that, too, and thought it might be Australian (cf. Everytime's profile). And, what's more: Dictionary: shonky

    :-)
    #16AuthorKinkyAfro (587241) 08 Jun 11, 15:40
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    Vielleicht: a preposterous comparison?

    Das war jedenfalls das erste, was mir in den Sinn kam - bin allerdings kein AE/BE Native Speaker...
    #17Author SueDE (236323) 08 Jun 11, 15:47
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    "Really.
    "That wouldn't have been exactly the first thing that came to mind."

    "Ah.
    "Which Buckingham Palace were you thinking of again?"

    (-;

    In another case where there really is some reason to take the argument or the speaker more seriously, if not the particular example, maybe

    That's really pushing it.
    That's a little much.
    That's really over the top.
    That's an exaggeration.
    I think you're blowing things out of proportion.
    That comparison seems pretty forced / strained.
    I don't think that comparison really holds water / holds up.
    That comparison is out of place / inappropriate.
    That's really straining / that's a bit of a strain.
    (but not 'straining it,' I don't think)

    If the comparison can't be taken seriously at all, you could just say it's ludicrous, ridiculous, silly, patently untrue ...

    'Tenuous' seemed fine for the Mozart example, or a step further, maybe artificial, spurious, inauthentic ...

    The last category might be where the comparison is actually beyond the pale, appalling, pathological -- like the example with Tadic in the other thread comparing Serbians to real catastrophe victims. In that case you wouldn't even dignify the statement by responding to it, or would just say that it's highly offensive and utterly irrational.
    #18Author hm -- us (236141) 08 Jun 11, 15:51
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    Looking at the LEO-translation for shonky (thanks KinkyAfro) -
    what about dubious?
     
    That's a dubious claim/comparison

    Or

    Come on! *Then repeating the tenuous assertion in an incredulous voice*
    Are you serious?
    #19Author Everytime (425100) 08 Jun 11, 16:30
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    #18 nothing dubious about it - Buck House is on a roundabout and has a back garden

    vague.
    fatuous is a word I am a bit too fond of, weak, lame or trivial in some circs - far too general, commonplace
    #20Authornoli (489500) 08 Jun 11, 16:39
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    .
    #21Authornoli (489500) 08 Jun 11, 17:01
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    B might say "And I'm the Queen of Sheba."
    #22Author escoville (237761) 08 Jun 11, 18:02
     
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