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    Thomas / Thompson: pronunciation

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    Thomas / Thompson: pronunciation

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    could one of the native speakers here advise me whether the tee-aitches in those names should be pronounced as in _th_eater or as in _t_om?
    Authorducky17 Jul 06, 09:50
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    As in _th_eater.


    #1Authorminu17 Jul 06, 09:53
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    No! As in _t_om.
    #2AuthorLK17 Jul 06, 10:00
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    Is that question directed at German or English native speakers?
    In English it is definately Thomas as in t_om.
    #3AuthorElle (GB)17 Jul 06, 10:02
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    @minu: Excuse me, that's nonsense!

    @ducky: It is pronounced like Thames (the river) and thyme (the spice, parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme, remember Simon and Garfunkel?). In your words: Like "Tom".
    #4AuthorAndreasS17 Jul 06, 10:03
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    @ AndreasS


    Then is "through" pronounced as "true"?
    #5Authorminu17 Jul 06, 10:04
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    @minu
    No, but English is renowned for not being sensible with its spelling.

    George Bernard Shaw said that fish could be spelled thus:

    GHOTI

    - GH like from "enough" (F)
    - O like from "women" (I)
    - TI like from "station" (SH)

    I think the pronunciation "troo" (with a dental /t/) does exist though, maybe in some American dialects/Irish?

    But generally, through = like theater, thompson = like tom
    #6AuthorAlex17 Jul 06, 10:09
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    Support LK, Alex and AndreasS.

    It is definitely a "t" as in "time," "Tom," "tube", etc.

    #7AuthorLara Chu (AmE)17 Jul 06, 10:15
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    @ Alex


    :-D


    That is ONE brilliant explanation!

    Thank you!
    #8Authorminu17 Jul 06, 10:20
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    erm, thanks :)

    If you'll excuse my French, English spelling is a bugger.
    #9AuthorAlex17 Jul 06, 10:21
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    Just out of curiosity:
    Minu, I often heard people from India pronounce the "th" and 't' very softly, thus both becoming similar to a 'd'. Might the confusion here have something to do with this? Please don't get me wrong, I do not want to criticize your English (which is great) nor foreign accents in general (having an accent myself ;-)! It just occurred to me, that regional provenance could be the reason for a specific perception of the sounds "th" and "t" (Germans for instance tend to miss slight differences between 'a' (had) and 'e' (head) or "v" (vine) and "w" (wine) sounds.)
    #10Authorbirgila / DE17 Jul 06, 10:41
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    IŽm surprised at the amount of follow-up this generated!

    Thank you very much, everybody!
    #11Authorducky17 Jul 06, 10:59
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    Yes birgila / DE.
    This change in pronunciation is due to regional accents, as sounds from mother-tongues peep into spoken English.

    --> Minu, I often heard people from India pronounce the "th" and 't' very softly, thus both becoming similar to a 'd'.

    This is particularly true of people from southern parts of India.

    :)

    Nice observation!
    #12Authorminu17 Jul 06, 11:13
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    thank you, minu :-)
    #13Authorbirgila / DE17 Jul 06, 11:22
     
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