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    verdict vs. decision

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    Kann mir jemand erklären, wann man das eine, wann das andere verwendet?

    "This problem needs careful examination in light of the recent verdict / decision (?) of the German Constitutional Court on the legality of the German ratification of the Lisbon Treaty."

    Vielen Dank und viele Grüße,
    Patrick
    AuthorWalkerTXRanger (642403) 28 Oct 09, 14:20
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    verdict itself has at least three distinct, but subtlely different meanings, depending on whether you're an AE or BE speaker.

    Askoxford defines verdict as:

    1 a decision on an issue of fact in a civil or criminal case or an inquest. 2 an opinion or judgement.
    http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/verdict?...

    Cambridge as:
    an opinion or decision made after judging the facts that are given, especially one made at the end of a trial
    http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?ke...

    and AHD as:
    1. Law The finding of a jury in a trial.
    2. An expressed conclusion; a judgment or opinion: the verdict of history.
    http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictiona...

    in summary:
    for decisions made by a court of law, I think the meaning 2 is too general.
    for decisions made by a court of law in BE verdict I would normally associate with a preceding trial, and the verdict is the decision made at the end of this trial. This might be different for AE, if the AHD definition is as narrow as it seems.

    For the type of scene described in your example, I would only ever use 'decision', since the process leading up to it was not a trial, there was no jury involved, and I would consider that the normal choice of words in English.

    "...the recent decision of the German ...."
    #1Authorodondon irl28 Oct 09, 14:33
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    "Verdict" sounds like a criminal case to me (which is not the situation here with the German Constitutional Court), so I agree with #1 that it has to be "decision".

    Is there really an AE-BE difference on use of "verdict"?
    #2AuthorKinkyAfro (587241) 28 Oct 09, 14:40
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    @KinkyAfro:

    if AHD is to be believed, then only a jury can make a verdict.

    In British law, a judge can make a verdict.

    I'd question whether this is really the case for AE, but M-W.com supports AHD:

    1 : the finding or decision of a jury on the matter submitted to it in trial
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/verdict

    which appears to indicate that American judges don't make verdicts.

    But I'll leave it up to the Americans to correct me on this - don't believe it until they confirm it - :o)
    #3Authorodondon irl28 Oct 09, 14:50
     
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