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    Guessing game: where is German in third place?

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    Guessing game: where is German in third place?

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    German is the third most commonly spoken language (after English and Spanish) in nine states in the US. Does anyone want to try to guess which are those states?


    Hint: Pennsylvania is not one of the nine; the compilers consider "Pennsylvania Dutch" to be a different language (!), rather than a dialect of German.


    For those who don't want to play, the answer is here: https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-the-m...

    Author Martin--cal (272273)  23 Jan 20, 19:07
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    Ich tippe mal folgende:

    • Utah
    • Washington
    • Maryland
    • Maine
    • Tennessee
    • Virginia
    • Oregon
    • Wyoming
    • Wisconsin

    Die Karte sagt: Ein Treffer ist dabei.

    #1Author Pottkieker (871812) 23 Jan 20, 19:58
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    Wyoming is right - German is the third most widely spoken language at home there.

    (But not in Maine, Maryland, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, Washington, or Wisconsin)

    Eight more to go.

    #2Author Martin--cal (272273)  23 Jan 20, 20:07
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    North and South Dakota, Indiana

    #3Author Chrysalis66 (1189140) 23 Jan 20, 20:15
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    North Dakota and Indiana are correct.

    (But not in Maine, Maryland, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, Washington, or Wisconsin)

    Six more to go.

    #4Author Martin--cal (272273) 23 Jan 20, 20:39
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    New Jersey

    Texas

    Arizona

    California

    #5Author Dragon (238202) 23 Jan 20, 20:51
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    Illinois and Ohio

    #6Author Tricia2212 (723107) 23 Jan 20, 20:54
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    Yes, people speak German at home in Ohio.

    But not so much in Arizona, California, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, New Jersey, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, or Wisconsin


    Five more states to guess where German is the 3rd most commonly spoken language.

    #7Author Martin--cal (272273) 23 Jan 20, 21:14
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    Ich spendiere Minnesota.

    #8Author mbshu (874725) 23 Jan 20, 21:30
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    Nope - Somali is the third most frequently spoken language at home in Minnesota.

    #9Author Martin--cal (272273) 23 Jan 20, 21:38
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    I'm going to guess Iowa. Indiana too, but I see it's already been confirmed. Surprised about Wisconsin!
    #10Author Miss Anthropy (700297) 23 Jan 20, 21:41
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    Kansas ?

    #11Author no me bré (700807) 23 Jan 20, 21:55
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    A thought just came to me....
    Florida?
    #12Author Miss Anthropy (700297) 23 Jan 20, 22:00
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    No, No, and No. (Vietnamese is third in both Iowa and Kansas, Haitian Creole in Forida):


    Also, not Arizona, California, Florida, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Maryland, New Jersey, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, or Wisconsin



    #13Author Martin--cal (272273)  23 Jan 20, 22:07
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    Not a guess, but it's interesting to look at how the data has changed. On a map from 2014 (based on 2010 data), German was the third most commonly spoken language in 16 states! https://slate.com/culture/2014/05/language-ma...


    I'm surprised how many states have changed in ten years. In some states I'm familiar with, I would guess that many of the German speakers were older and are dying, while the speakers of Somali or Vietnamese, e.g., are more recent immigrants. They would tend to be younger, having kids and passing the language along. Comparing the two maps, Arabic, with an influx of recent refugees, has displaced German in one state and French in another.


    Maybe once this guessing game is over, Martin--cal would like to have people guess the states that switched from German as the third (or first) most commonly spoken language in 2010 to a different language in 2020.

    #14Author Amy-MiMi (236989) 23 Jan 20, 22:12
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    Oy, at this point I'd nearly be picking things at random. Florida struck me as a place where German-speaking snowbirds would live, but apparently not so much. Then I'll guess Colorado, Massachusetts, and Vermont.

    Edith says that's interesting, Amy! Thanks for that additional info.
    #15Author Miss Anthropy (700297)  23 Jan 20, 22:12
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    *OTopically waving across the pond*

    #16Author Amy-MiMi (236989) 23 Jan 20, 22:20
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    Colorado is right, but not Massachusetts (Portuguese!) or Vermont (French).

    Four left.

    #17Author Martin--cal (272273)  23 Jan 20, 22:29
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    Oregon? Do we have Montana yet? And I see Idaho hasn't been guessed yet. Idaho?
    *waving back*
    #18Author Miss Anthropy (700297)  23 Jan 20, 22:31
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    A double win! Montana and Idaho both. (Oregon had been guessed previously).


    Only two left, but not Arizona, California, Florida, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, or Wisconsin

    #19Author Martin--cal (272273)  23 Jan 20, 22:35
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    *freu*
    Think I'll leave the last two to someone else and head to bed. ;-)
    #20Author Miss Anthropy (700297) 23 Jan 20, 22:36
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    Taking a break myself; back around 18:00 Leo time. Feel free to carry on ... (Maybe some Rightpondian will act as referee.)

    #21Author Martin--cal (272273)  23 Jan 20, 22:53
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    If no one else is going to guess then I'll try Kentucky and New York (though I fear Italian might be more prominent there).
    #22Author Miss Anthropy (700297) 24 Jan 20, 14:32
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    Wieso hat eigentlich noch niemand Michigan erwähnt.

    #23Author bluesky (236159) 24 Jan 20, 14:52
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    Connecticut?

    #24Author corbie (745439) 24 Jan 20, 15:16
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    Alaska. Would not take many Germans to score there ...

    #25Author mbshu (874725) 24 Jan 20, 15:17
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    Nebraska?

    #26Author corbie (745439) 24 Jan 20, 15:19
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    Hi, I'm back. Thanks for your patience, and for the amusement. And no, it's not New York (Chinese), not Michigan (Hmong!), not Connecticut (Portuguese), not Alaska (“Aleut/Eskimo” they say – really a language family, not a single language--), and not Nebraska (Nepali – who would have guessed that!).


    But Kentucky is right. Good sleuthing, Miss Anthropy!


    That leaves just one more state in the US, not yet guessed, where German is the third most commonly spoken language at home. And, to summarize, it is not Alaska, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Nebraska, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, or Wisconsin...

    #27Author Martin--cal (272273)  24 Jan 20, 18:46
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    Georgia?

    #28Author corbie (745439) 24 Jan 20, 19:35
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    Nepali?? That really makes me wonder.
    I have a feeling that, at least in many states, the third language is so uncommon that all it takes is an extended family to emigrate and all live in the same state and that already clinches it.
    #29Author Miss Anthropy (700297)  24 Jan 20, 20:13
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    I'll try Nevada.
    #30Author Miss Anthropy (700297) 24 Jan 20, 20:16
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    And I‘ll try Delaware

    #31Author Dragon (238202) 24 Jan 20, 20:43
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    Not Georgia (Korean, from an extended family, no doubt), not Nevada (Tagalog, same as California), and not Delaware (Haitian Creole).


    To summarize, the missing state is not Alaska, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, or Wisconsin (28 wrong guesses)

    #32Author Martin--cal (272273) 24 Jan 20, 22:10
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    South Carolina?

    #33Authorlaalaa (238508) 24 Jan 20, 22:51
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    Missouri?

    #34Author Norbert Juffa (236158) 24 Jan 20, 23:02
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    ♬♪♬ Ta-da! ♬♪♬ South Carolina is the tenth state!


    (Chinese is the third language spoken in Missouri.) Once again, here's the map with the data: https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-the-m...


    Thanks for playing, everyone.

    #35Author Martin--cal (272273)  24 Jan 20, 23:04
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    Having been to S.C., I find that surprising. I wonder whether S.C. is on the list because there is a large BMW plant near Spartanburg.

    #36Author Norbert Juffa (236158)  24 Jan 20, 23:09
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    https://www.newsweek.com/three-most-spoken-la...

    Diese Seite stammt von 2018.

    Wenn ich das alles richtig notiert und zusammengezählt habe, waren es 2018 noch 12 Staaten.

    Iowa, Kansas, Alabama und Missouri sind rausgefallen.

    Montana ist ein Zugewinn in der Karte aus dem OP, gehörte aber nicht zur Liste von 2018.

    Macht zusammen neun für 2019 (OP).



    #37Author Emil 14 (299747) 24 Jan 20, 23:21
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    Just wondering what German forum users (in case anyone is still up in Germany at this hour) what you think is the second most common language spoken in homes in your town in Germany (or Austria or Switzerland)?

    #38Author Martin--cal (272273)  25 Jan 20, 00:03
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    #23: Michigan does have a lot of German speakers. The number of Amish people has grown markedly since I moved back to Michigan about 30 years ago. However, German speakers are surely outnumbered by Arabic speakers.


    So I have to correct Martin from #27. The language for Michigan is not Hmong, it's Arabic.


    The 2014 map (using 2010) data had German spoken as the second most common language in North Dakota and the third most common language in Idaho, Montana, Colorado, Wyoming, Utah, Kansas, Iowa, Wisconsin, Missouri, Arkansas, Georgian, Tennessee, Kentucky, Indiana and Ohio.


    Thanks for the interesting game, Martin.

    #39Author Amy-MiMi (236989) 25 Jan 20, 00:56
     
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