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    great shot from/by Dirk Nowitzki.

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    great shot from/by Dirk Nowitzki.

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    Ich höre in Sportübertragungen oft Konstruktionen wie

    "What a great shot from Nowitzki" oder "The fade-away from Nowitzki went in" etc.

    Sind das nicht alles Passivkonstruktionen und anstelle von from müsste by verwendet werden?

    thx
    Author Wundertuete72 (299296) 08 Mar 17, 20:39
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    No, it's fine.

    The underlying thought is probably something about the shot coming from Nowitzki (and going to / toward the basket).

    You can also use this kind of 'from' in other contexts where there's the idea of something originating from someone and going out to the public. E.g,, a new movie from Martin Scorsese, or the latest book from John Grisham -- the idea is that it's a contribution, moving out from the person who is a frequent or common source out to the public.

    Grammatically the difference may be that the verb, which is what includes that idea of movement, is understood or omitted. You're right that you would not use 'from' in other contexts -- for example, with a 'be' verb.

    This movie is by Martin Scorsese.
    The book is by John Grisham.
    The shot was made by Dirk Nowitzki.


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    And 29,999 other shots, and hopefully still many more to come. (-:

    I sometimes wonder if Mr. Nowitzki ever looks at LEO. Congratulations to him once again in any case.
    #1Author hm -- us (236141) 08 Mar 17, 21:03
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    An outstanding achievement ! Except for posts on FB there hasn't been much on German TV unfortunately... I think he deserves more appreciation. Jordan, Jabbar, Chamberlain, Malone and Bryant... and the German Wunderkind amongst them... Something like that will never ever happen to German basketball again.. Well, at least people in the States and other countries all over the word pay him the respect he deserves.... well done Dirkster!
    #2Author Wundertuete72 (299296) 08 Mar 17, 21:33
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    Es gibt eine anderthalbstündige Doku über ihn, die 2014/2015 hier im Fernsehn lief ...
    #3Author no me bré (700807) 08 Mar 17, 21:56
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    habe die DVD :)
    #4Author Wundertuete72 (299296) 08 Mar 17, 22:04
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    I'm afraid that here too, that happy sports item has been overshadowed by big unhappy news -- the announcement of the attempted replacement for the health care law, and of the latest batch of national security leaks. It did at least make the front page of the sports section.

    But just in general, there is a lot of respect and appreciation here in the US for Nowitzki. A player who will be remembered for character and work ethic as well as for record achievements.

    And of course an adopted Texan. (-: These days, it's nice when names from Texas make the news for positive accomplishments, instead of stupidities like the bathroom bill, another depressing distraction in the headlines.
    #5Author hm -- us (236141) 08 Mar 17, 22:05
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    Ja, so allmählich wird er eine Legende.
    Aber er hat es verdient.
    Wird sich Dennis Schröder ein Beispiel an ihm nehmen?
    #6Author Emil 14 (299747) 09 Mar 17, 01:34
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    Hi, Emil.

    I had never heard of Dennis Schröder, and I'm afraid I had largely forgotten about the Atlanta Hawks, but he does indeed sound like a very promising younger player, so who knows, maybe he will break out and make a name for himself. Or maybe among real aficionados he already has. Anyway, thanks for the tip. (-:

    http://www.tagesspiegel.de/sport/dennis-schro...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Schröder



    So, would you say basketball is still growing in popularity in Germany? Or still struggling for recognition as a niche sport, perhaps not unlike soccer in the US?

    I'm far from a big basketball fan or expert, but I get the impression that the focus on accuracy and 3-point shots has had an effect on the American game, even if not all Americans might associate it with a more European style of play. (Or maybe I would be wrong to make that association -- again, I don't really follow the game, sorry.)
    #7Author hm -- us (236141) 09 Mar 17, 08:27
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    I can't prove it with numbers, but I think that the sport of basketball is not growing in popularity anymore here in Germany. But it has become more than just a niche sport. I think it's more popular than handball or volleyball. Some TV channels broadcast matches on a regular basis, which has not always been the case.
    However, the real boost happened after 1992, after the US Dream Team impressed the word at the Olympics. After that, everyone seemed to play basketball. Street tournaments were nearly everywhere and clubs rose in numbers. Cable and satellite TV showed NBA games and there was a real hype about the sport. Unfortunately, this trend did not last, even though the German national team occasionally did well. I don't know why but basketball in Germany seems to have reached a plateau. I don't think that it will ever be remotely as popular as soccer/football. I guess it's a cultural thing. Kids play soccer/football. Seems to be set in stone.

    As for Schroeder, he exceeds everyone's expectations. Incredibly fast. Amazing how he takes the ball to the hoop. But he will never become a basketball legend like Nowitzki. Different players, different characters. Can't be compared. Schroeder will keep improving and if everything runs smoothly, he might even be an All-Star one day. But his jersey will never be retired.
    #8Author Wundertuete72 (299296) 09 Mar 17, 15:04
     
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