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    POEM ON AMERICAN CULTURE - I badly need some background knowledge!

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    POEM ON AMERICAN CULTURE - I badly need some background knowledge!

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    Hi Guys - I want to understand the poem "Jinglejangle" by Haryette Mullen. I`d really appreciate any kind of help.

    In the poem, several persons, places & expressions are mentioned -unfortunately, only a few sound familiar to me. What I`m interested in, in particular:
    Which of these person- / place- names & expressions are commonly used in the US?
    Which of the nicknames refer to real persons - which ones are used as collocations or in an idiomatic way in everyday language?
    Which (brand)names do actually exist? Which word-combos were probably made up by the author?

    Thank you in advance :)

    Action Jackson, Annie's Cranny, Annie Fanny.
    Bahama Mama, Battle in Seatle, BestRest, Betsy Wetsy, Better Cheddar, Big Dig, Bone Phone Bonton, Bony Maroni, Boozy Suzy, Busty Rusty.
    Care Bear, Chatty Cathy, Chilly Willy, Choco Taco, Chubby Hubby, Chuck & Buck, Chunky Monkey, Cinni Mini, Click & Clack, Coca-Cola, Cool Yule, Cracker Jack, Crunch & Munch.
    Dizzy Lizzy, Don Juan, Donut Hut.
    Earl the Pearl, Eat a Pita, Etch-a-Sketch, Evel Knievel, Even Stephen, Eye in the Sky.
    Fakin` Bacon, Fast Gas, Fax Pax, Fay Wray, Flavor Saver, Fleet Street, Flirty Gerty, Flo Jo, Foxy Roxy, Freaks & Geaks,
    Froot Loops, FuBu.
    Geechee, Georgie Porgie, Gorgeous George, Greek Week, Green Jeans.
    Hackensack, Handy Andy, Happy to be Nappy, Heckle & Jeckle, Hegel`s Bagels, Henny Penny, Hobson-Jobson, HoJo,
    Hokey Pokey, Home Alone, Hong Kong, Hotel No Tell, Hottentot, Hubba Bubba, Huckabuck, Hewey/Dewey/Louie, Hully Gully, Humpty-Dumpty, Hurry Curry.
    Icky Ricky, I like Ike, Increase the Peace.
    Janet`s Planet, Jeez Louise, Juicy Lucy.
    King Kong, Kit Kat, Koo Koo Roo, Krik? Krak!, Kundun.
    Laffy Taffy, Lazy Daisy, Lean Cuisine, Leggo my Eggo, Lexis Nexus, Lickin` Chicken, Liddle Kiddle, Looney Toons, Loopy Doopy,
    Lynyrd Skynyrd.
    Mac Attack, Magilla Gorilla, Mango Tango, Manila Thriller, Mantan, Maui Wowie, May Day, Meal Deal, Meals on Wheels,
    Messy Bessy, Micmac, Mighty Aphrodite, Milli Vanilli, Mingus Among Us, Missy-Pissy, Mod Squad, Money Honey, Mork from Ork.
    Nut Hut, Nutter Butter, Nutty Buddy.
    Ocean Potion, Oingo Boingo, Only the Lonely, Oshkosh B'gosh.
    Paco`s Tacos, Parappa the Rapper, Patel Hotel, Phantom Anthems, Pick Up Sticks, Piggly Wiggly, Plain Jane, Pop Shop,
    Post Toasties, Puff`n Stuff.
    Queen of Mean, Quick Pick.
    Ragin` Cajun, Randy Andy, Reese`s Pieces, Rhymin` Simon, Rin Tin Tin, Rock around the Clock, Rolled Gold, Ronald McDonald,
    Rufty Tufty.
    Sally` Alley, Scrapple from the Apple, Sea & Ski, Shake`n Bake, Shedd`s Spread, Shy Di, Sin Den, Slice o`Rice, Slick Rick,
    Slim Jim, SmarteCarte, Smothers Brothers, Spamarama, SpecTech, Spruce Goose, Stan the Man, Stinky Pinky, Stix Nix, Hix Pix, Stormin` Norman, Cupid Style File, Suds your Duds, Superloopers, Swiss Kriss, Swiss Miss.
    Tears for Fears, Temporary Contemporary, Texas Exes, Tex-Mex, Throat Coat, Tictac, Tragic Magic, Tricky Dicky, Twine Time.
    Ubby Dubby, Ugh Bug.
    Vanessa the Undresser.
    Wacko Jacko, Wavy Gravy, Weegee Whack Pack, Wicked Pickett, Wilt the Stilt, Winken & Blinken, Wooly Bully.
    X-sex.
    Yak Pak, Yertle the Turtle.
    Zoo Doo, Zulu.

    That`s it ! Sure, I could google them all, but maybe you can save me some time :-)
    Authorfritz19 Dec 08, 21:02
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    I'd be interested to know where you found the poem. I would guess that all of the references are genuine: to expressions that others have used, to brand names, to advertisements, etc.
    #1AuthorMartin--cal19 Dec 08, 21:18
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    fritz: Why is your time so precious and ours so consumable?

    A few picked at random:
    Ronald McDonald: McDonald's mascot
    Eviel Knievel: late stunt artist
    Flo Jo: late Olympic athlete
    Hackensack: New Jersey town
    Humpty Dumpty: nursery rhyme character (fell off a wall!)
    Lean Cuisine: brand of low-cal frozen meals
    Pick Up Sticks: children's game
    Reese's Pieces: brand of candy
    Shy Di: late Princess of Wales
    Stormin' Norman: was he the #1 general in the first Iraq war?
    Only the Lonely: song recorded by Roy Orbison
    Lynyrd Skynyrd: rock band
    Wacko Jacko: Michael Jackson

    I'm having a hard time believing you don't know any of these!

    #2Author SD3 (451227) 19 Dec 08, 22:01
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    I would be interested in that poem as well. So far I found brand names, cartoon characters, rock (or pop) groups, titles of kiddies poems, tv programmes and so on. I can't see how such a poem would make sense.

    PS: Happy Xmas
    #3AuthorKarin19 Dec 08, 22:05
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    fritz, You're asking the almost impossible. Betsy Wetsy and Chatty Cathy were baby dolls when I was a child 45-odd years ago. Cracker Jacks is a brand name for carmelized popcorn mixed with nuts and a surprize in every box. Donut Hut sells donuts...duh, Evil Knievel a world-famous daredevil http://images.google.de/images?gbv=2&hl=de&sa... on and on and on...Now we're even Steven is an expression I grew up with, probably my parents and grandparents, too - whether it's still around, I can't say for sure.
    #4Author Carly-AE (237428) 19 Dec 08, 22:42
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    Wooly Bully - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHF558u6Q_8
    Mod Squad war ein Fernsehserie, die ca. 1970 rauskam - "cop show" - slogan: One white, one black, one woman (in etwa) - habe ich anno damals SEHR gerne geschaut. Froot Loops ist falsch geschrieben - Fruit Loops, cereal.
    #5Author Carly-AE (237428) 19 Dec 08, 23:05
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    THX @ everybody 4 ur fast response!

    @ martin-cal: We discussed the poem in poetry class lately. Unfortunately, only the 1st 2 stanzas are online:
    http://www.raintaxi.com/online/2002fall/mulle...

    @ SD3: You asked: "fritz: Why is your time so precious and ours so consumable?" I didn`t say that - certainly, your time is just as precious as mine. But sometimes, asking people 4 help is more sufficiant than using a search engine. I also `waste` a lot of my time online, answering other peoples questions, because I have already gained the knowledge they are searching 4...

    Anyway - thank you for sharing your knowledge. I appreciate that.

    Certainly I knew Ronald McDonald, Humpty Dumpty, Only the Lonely (though I didn`t know it was by Roy Orbison), and I guessed that Whacko Jacko refers to Michael Jackson. But the rest was completely new to me... As I said, some of these expressions sound familiar.
    #6Authorfritz20 Dec 08, 04:22
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    @ Karin: Thx 4 the info - If you would: Can you give me some more details - that`d be cool :)

    To get an impression of the poem, check the link above.

    Re: merry Xmas - enjoy yourself + take care!

    @ Carly-AE: Awesome! A lot of useful information, thank you so much!

    PS: That was not MY spelling-mistake. It`s actually written like that - `Froot Loops` - , in the poem.
    #7Authorfritz20 Dec 08, 04:35
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    @fritz: Thanks for the reference!

    I recognize the source of quite a few of the phrases, as I'm sure most other English speakers do (especially Americans), but I don't know where to start to write explanations. If you made a shorter list -- perhaps a dozen or so -- you might find people more willing to help.
    #8AuthorMartin--cal20 Dec 08, 08:10
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    Give us the ones not yet found, and we'll work on it.
    #9Authoran American20 Dec 08, 08:18
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    Okay - I´ll try to compile a selection:

    Action Jackson, Annie's Cranny, Annie Fanny,Bahama Mama, Battle in Seatle, BestRest, Betsy Wetsy, Better Cheddar, Bone Phone Bonton, Bony Maroni, Boozy Suzy, Busty Rusty, Chilly Willy,Chubby Hubby, Chuck & Buck, Chunky Monkey, Click & Clack,Cool Yule, Cracker Jack, Crunch & Munch,
    Dizzy Lizzy,Earl the Pearl, Etch-a-Sketch,Fay Wray, Flavor Saver, Fleet Street, Flirty Gerty, Flo Jo, Foxy Roxy, Freaks & Geaks,FuBu, Georgie Porgie, Gorgeous George, Greek Week, Green Jeans,Hackensack, Handy Andy, Henny Penny, Hobson-Jobson, HoJo,Hokey Pokey,Hotel No Tell, Huckabuck, Icky Ricky,Janet`s Planet, Juicy Lucy, Koo Koo Roo, Krik? Krak!, Kundun, Laffy Taffy, Lazy Daisy, Leggo my Eggo, Lexis Nexus, Liddle Kiddle, Loopy Doopy,Lynyrd Skynyrd, Magilla Gorilla, Mango Tango, Mantan,Messy Bessy, Micmac, Mighty Aphrodite,Mingus Among Us, Missy-Pissy, Mork from Ork, Nutter Butter, Nutty Buddy, Oingo Boingo,Oshkosh B'gosh, Parappa the Rapper, Patel Hotel, Phantom Anthems, Piggly Wiggly, Post Toasties, Puff`n Stuff, Queen of Mean, Quick Pick,
    Ragin` Cajun, Randy Andy,Rhymin` Simon, Rin Tin Tin, Rolled Gold, Rufty Tufty, Sally` Alley, Scrapple from the Apple, Shake`n Bake, Shedd`s Spread, Sin Den, Slice o`Rice, Slick Rick,Slim Jim, SmarteCarte, Smothers Brothers, Spamarama, SpecTech, Spruce Goose, Stan the Man, Stinky Pinky, Stix Nix, Hix Pix, Cupid Style File, Suds your Duds, Superloopers, Swiss Kriss, Swiss Miss, Temporary Contemporary, Texas Exes, Tex-Mex, Throat Coat,Tricky Dicky, Twine Time, Ubby Dubby, Ugh Bug, Vanessa the Undresser,Wavy Gravy, Weegee Whack Pack, Wicked Pickett, Wilt the Stilt, Winken & Blinken, Wooly Bully, X-sex, Yak Pak, Yertle the Turtle,Zoo Doo.

    Still quite a list :-) ... those ones I really don`t get.
    Further help is much appreciated!

    [By the way - U guys have a happy Xmas!]
    #10Authorfritz20 Dec 08, 08:33
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    @Carly - the spelling is now "Froot Loops"; see here http://www.toucansam.com/

    Here are a few more:
    Earl the Pearl: former US basketball player (Earl Monroe)
    Etch-a-Sketch: toy that you could use to "draw"; by turning two knobs at the bottom, you caused lines to appear on a screen; by turning the unit upside down and shaking it, you erased everything
    Heckle and Jeckle: an old cartoon, they were magpies and always getting into trouble
    Hokey Pokey: a dance "you put right foot, you put your right foot out, you put your right foot in and you shake it all about; you do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around; that's what it's all abou'
    Hubba Bubba: bubble gum brand
    Huey/Dewey/Louie: Donald Duck's three nephews (Tick, Trick, Track)
    Hully Gully: another dance this time from the 60s
    I like Ike: Campaign slogan for Dwight D. Eisenhower when he ran for president
    King Kong: a really big ape; in the original movie he falls in love with Fay Wray and climbs the Empire State Building
    Piggly Wiggly: a children's board game; also a supermarket chain in the South
    Stormin' Norman: Norman Schwarzkopf - commander in the first Gulf War
    Oshkosh B'Gosh: brand of children's clothes, especially coveralls
    (Big) Mac Attack: craving for a "Big Mac" (or probably anything else) from McDonald's
    Rin Tin Tin: name of the German shepherd that was the "hero" of a children's TV program in the 50s; he was constantly rescuing "Rusty", the little boy; they were attached to a military fort in the "Wild West" (Probably inspired by "Lassie"; another animal program was "Fury", featuring a horse)
    Wilt "the Stilt" Chamberlain: American basketball player - one of the all-time greats
    Meals on Wheels: a program that brings meals to shut-ins and others who need assistance with meal preparation (My father benefitted from this for a couple of years before his death; it ensured that he had one hot meal and a light meal per day - he was able to prepare his own breakfast but would not have eaten nutritiously otherwise)

    I'm surprised "Spin and Marty" weren't on the list: two characters in a recurring series on the Mickey Mouse Club; speaking of the Mickey Mouse Club, it should be on the list, too!

    As Carly notes, you're pretty much asking the impossible. All of these items have associations and connotations far beyond any short answers we might give.
    #11Author Robert -- US (328606) 20 Dec 08, 08:35
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    [ignore: Flo Jo, Hackensack, Lynyrd Skynyrd - already explained by SD3 ("thx a lot, by the way!") \(^.^)/ ]
    #12Authorfritz20 Dec 08, 08:55
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    I assume you have heard of Google and Wikipedia? Anyhow, here are a few items that I think haven't been covered yet (although I didn't check carefully):

    Hobson-Jobson: An old dictionary of Anglo-Indian terms (British)
    Swiss Miss: A brand of hot chocolate
    Click & Clack: Tom and Ray Magliozzi, hosts of the radio show "Car Talk" on NPR
    Lynyrd Skynyrd: A rock band from the Southern US
    Smothers Brothers: A duo of musicians and comedians, real-life brothers (ca. 1960s)
    Yertle the Turtle: A character in a book by Dr. Seuss
    Piggly-Wiggly: A super market chain (I know them from South Carolina, probably operate in other states as well)
    Tex-Mex: A "crossover" cuisine combining elements of southwestern American cooking with Mexican cuisine
    LexisNexis: An online database of various documents that's been around since the 1980s (I think)
    Greek Week: A one-week event celebrating fraternities and sororities on university campuses
    Laffy Taffy: A brand of taffy candy (fruit flavors)
    Mork from Ork: A early 1980s sitcom with Robin Williams (one of his early roles)
    #13AuthorNorbert Juffa (unplugged)20 Dec 08, 08:58
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    @ Robert--US: You leave me speechless. This is amazing !!!

    It would have cost me hours+hours+hours 2 get the information you just posted! Gosh... my grammar-prof. told me last week that using LE0 is no good ...
    Your entry proves the opposite :-)

    THANx³ ;-)))
    #14Authorfritz20 Dec 08, 09:30
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    @ Norbert Juffa:
    "Jeez Louise! [<- that is: "Awesome!"... I figured it out on my own :-)] Thx 4 googling & wikipediaing...<br/>
    I could copy & paste the message I just dedicated to Robert--US... but insteead, I´ll type another big

    THANK YOU!!!

    ... & hope you believe that I really mean it ;-)

    I wish U an awesome christmas - honestly!

    #15Authorfritz20 Dec 08, 09:49
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    "Chunky Monkey" - Eiskremsorte von Ben und Jerry's

    http://www.benjerry.de/unser-eis/eis_chunky-m...
    #16Authorrori20 Dec 08, 11:18
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    Queen of Mean: Nickname of Leona Helmesley, real estate tycoon (died a couple of years ago)
    Tricky Dick: (No "y" at end as far as I know), nickname of president Richard Nixon
    Home Alone: A movie with (6-year old) McCauley Culkin (sp?). Mid 1980s, I think
    Rin Tin Tin: Dog in movies of the 1920s (?)

    Georgie Porgie and Mighty Aphrodite appear very familiar, but I can't place them.
    #17Author Norbert Juffa (236158) 20 Dec 08, 12:47
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    Hier ist das gedicht komplett abgedruckt.

    http://loki.stockton.edu/~stk32590/Book_Proje...
    #18Author Carola (236513) 20 Dec 08, 12:52
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    Rock around the clock: A rock&roll title of the 1950s by Bill Haley and the Coments (?)
    Hackensack: A town in New Jersey, best I know, but no idea what additional significance it may have
    Fleet Street: A street in London in which many newspapers were once located (although when I visited in the late 1990s, they were gone as I recall). Figuratively, the British press.
    #19Author Norbert Juffa (236158) 20 Dec 08, 12:55
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    "Comets" not "Coments". Time to hit the sack. Zzzzzz ...
    #20Author Norbert Juffa (236158) 20 Dec 08, 12:56
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    Es beginnt auf Seite 33.

    "Wynken, Blynken, and Nod" is a popular poem for children written by Denver journalist Eugene Field and published on March 9, 1889.
    #21Author Carola (236513) 20 Dec 08, 12:56
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    candy’s dandy kommt aus einem Aphorismus von Ogden Nash

    Candy is dandy but liqueur is qucker.
    #22Author Carola (236513) 20 Dec 08, 13:00
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    Battle In Seattle: amerikanisch-kanadisch-deutscher Film von 2007 ueber die "Battle Of Seattle"=die Ausschreitungen bei Protesten gegen die WTO-Konferenz in Seattle 1999. Siehe Wikipedia.
    Tears For Fears: britische New-Wave-Band ("Mad World").
    Viel Erfolg noch!
    #23Author imaginary woman (398289) 20 Dec 08, 15:16
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    Ich meine mal gelesen zu haben, "Little Annie Fanny" sei eine leicht pornographische 60er-Jahre-Parodie auf die Comicserie "Little Orphan Annie". Weiss jemand was Naeheres?
    #24Author imaginary woman (398289) 20 Dec 08, 15:19
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    Georgie Porgie - Nursery rhyme:Georgie Porgie, pudding and pie,kissed the girls and made them cry.When the girls came out to play,Geogie Porgie ran away.
    #25AuthorSumako20 Dec 08, 17:08
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    @Robert - Yeah, NOW I remember how Froot Loops is spelled (wasn't "into" cereal :-))

    Better Cheddar - brand of Cheddar cheese
    Bony Maroni - a song from around the 50s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj9N05e4Qx4 (ist bei youtube falsch geschrieben)
    Click & Clack - könnte high heels Geräusch bedeuten
    Fleet Street - Street in London, where the press is located Foxy Roxy - könnte eine Anspielung auf Jimi Hendrixs Lied "Foxy Lady" sein - Roxy wäre ihre Name
    Green Jeans - kenne "Mr. Green Jeans" von der Kinderserie "Captain Kangaroo"
    Missy-Pissy - meine Südstaaten Omi sagte früher hin und wieder "Miss PRiss", wenn wir Kinder frech waren
    Piggly Wiggly - was already mentioned, BUT we had one in Anchorage, Alaska, too :-)
    Smothers Brothers - comedy team - kenne ich von "Laugh-In", Klimbim war die deutscher Abklatsch davon: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klimbim
    Stan the Man https://www.stan-the-man.com/ baseball star (St. Louis Cardinals)
    Shake and Bake: That was (is?) a seasoned flour in a plastic? bag - you put chicken breast into bag, then Shake and Bake (pop into over) - when you opened the bag, you had gravy, too
    Tricky Dicky - If I'm not mistaken, Tricky Dicky was the press's name for Richard Nixon following Watergate

    #26Author Carly-AE (237428) 20 Dec 08, 17:52
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    OH - MY - GOD!!! What`s happening ? ? ! !

    This is so freakin` awesome... I can`t take it atm...
    shoot (!) ... so much information @ one spot....
    I guess I`ll have to invent a new word for "thanks" to express how much I appreciate your help!!!

    You guys, I wish you the most hilarious holidays ever...

    Gotta write an email to my poetry class members right now -
    they`ll be so amazed - big time!
    #27Authorfritz20 Dec 08, 18:31
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    Looney Toons - hatte ich übersehen - "Vater" von Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck & Co. "Toons" als Abkürzung für "cartoons" - aber ich bin mir (fast) sicher, daß es tatsächlich "Loony Tunes" geschrieben wird. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looney_Tunes
    #28Author Carly-AE (237428) 20 Dec 08, 19:01
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    May Day - Ein Notruf - verbinde ich mit Piloten und Schiffskapitäne
    Pick-up-Sticks = Mikado
    Nutter Butter = brand-name cookies
    http://images.google.de/images?hl=de&q=nutter...
    Milli Vanilli - verbinde ich mit einem Duo, die in Deutschland populär war - stellte sich aber dann heraus, daß sie garnicht selbst singen http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milli_Vanilli
    #29Author Carly-AE (237428) 20 Dec 08, 19:18
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    Henny Penny: character in the story "The Sky is Falling"
    Cracker Jack: a snack food
    Quick Pick: a New Jersey lottery game (apparently it's also a movie title)
    Leggo My Eggo: advertising slogan for Eggo waffles
    Spruce Goose: airplane made by Hughes - as in Howard (it made only one flight!)
    Post Toasties: breakfast cereal
    Nutter Butter: brand of cookie
    Shake`n Bake: revolting stuff you put on chicken before baking it
    Shedd`s Spread: kind of margarine
    Slim Jim: brand of beef jerky

    Why are there so many food items? Is that what defines us - processed food?
    #30Author SD3 (451227) 20 Dec 08, 19:39
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    FuBu [For Us, By Us]? FUBU took the fashion industry by storm when its label, specializing in urban gear, helped define the look of young America. FUBU -- "For Us, By Us" -- is considered one of the hottest urban clothing lines in the fashion industry..
    http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2002/black.histor...
    http://www.snopes.com/business/names/fubu.asp

    Fay Wray: Actress played damsel-in-distress in original 'King Kong'..
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles...

    Freaks & Geaks? Freaks and Geeks?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freaks_and_Geeks



    #31Authorme1 (236101) 20 Dec 08, 20:24
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    @Norbert Juffa #17:

    Mighty Aphrodite was a 1995 film by Woody Allen. It was based on the Greek story of Pygmalion and starred Helen Bonham Carter and Woody Allen.

    @Fritz: If you made a list of the terms that haven't been explained yet, that would save some time and the effort of checking all the posts so as not to duplicate entries.
    #32Author Robert -- US (328606) 20 Dec 08, 21:13
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    @Norbert Juffa #17 (again):

    Rin Tin Tin was the dog star in the movie (20s and 40s) and the TV series (50s), and they even tried a "revival" in the late 90s/early 2000s with a "New Adventures" TV series and a couple of movies.

    @Fritz:
    If you want to know more about any films or TV programs that are mentioned here, check out the Internet Movie Database: http://www.imdb.com/ - just type the name, title, or keyword into their search engine, and you'll get entries with cast, plot, director, release date(s), title(s), etc.
    #33Author Robert -- US (328606) 20 Dec 08, 21:20
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    A few more that I don't think have been mentioned yet:

    Gorgeous George: a wrestler (WWF style); he was famous for his blond hair
    Koo Koo Roo: a chain of chicken restaurants
    Rold Gold (not "Rolled"): a brand of pretzels from Frito-Lay
    Plain Jane: reference to a girl who is not ugly but not beautiful, just rather ordinary (Plain); the Jane probably comes from "Jane Doe", the female counterpart to "John Doe" referring to an unknown person. "XX is a real Plain Jane" without her makeup.
    Zulu: either a tribe in Africa ("Shaka Zulu" was as a mini-series and then movie about Shaka, the greatest Zulu leader in history) or the standard English word to represent the letter Z (Alpha, Baker, Charlie . . . Zulu - though I think they have changed some of the words since I first learned this; Alpha used to be Able) or the airline term for Greenwich Mean Time (Flight Niner-Niner-Four will be arriving at Oh-eight-hundred hours Zulu time).
    Sea and Ski: a brand of suntan lotion
    Betsy Wetsy: a children's doll that could be given a bottle with liquid in it; a little bit later it would "wet its pants"
    Tic Tac: a brand of mint candy that came in the form of small "pellets" in a plastic container; the Tic Tacs could be shaken out of the container. Advertising line: "Put a Tic Tac in you mouth and get bang out of life".
    Lean Cuisine: a brand of frozen dinners for dieters
    Home Alone: movie starring Macauley Culkin (Kevin: Allein zu Hause)

    Okay, I need to do something else today; I'll leave a few for the rest of you. :-)
    #34Author Robert -- US (328606) 20 Dec 08, 21:36
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    OK, I'll do a few too.
    Gorgeous George = a professional wrestler who wore outlandish costumers
    HoJo = nickname for Howard Johnson's, a chain of restaurants and hotels
    Hotel No-tell = not any specific hotel, but commonly, any hotel where you could meet a partner for illicit sex without being identified
    Spruce Goose = Not sure, I think this was a prototype warplane (partly of wood?)
    Tex-Mex: Mexican-styled food for some American tastes
    Wavy Gravy = rock singer of the 60's
    #35Author Martin--cal (272273) 20 Dec 08, 21:48
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    ...and, if I got it right, here's the ones that remain (hope this gets reasonably formatted when it appears...)

    Action Jackson, Annie's Cranny, Bahama Mama, BestRest, Betsy Wetsy,Bone Phone, Bonton, Boozy Suzy, Busty Rusty, Chilly Willy, Chubby Hubby, Chuck & Buck, Cool Yule, Crunch & Munch, Dizzy Lizzy, Flavor Saver, Flirty Gerty, Flo Jo, Foxy Roxy, Handy Andy,
    Huckabuck, Icky Ricky, Janet`s Planet, Juicy Lucy, Koo Koo Roo, Krik? Krak!, Kundun, Lazy Daisy, Liddle Kiddle, Loopy Doopy, Magilla Gorilla, Mango Tango, Mantan, Messy Bessy, Micmac, Mingus Among Us, Nutty Buddy, Oingo Boingo, Parappa the Rapper, Patel Hotel, Phantom Anthems, Puff`n Stuff, Quick Pick, Ragin` Cajun, Randy Andy, Rhymin` Simon, Rolled Gold, Rufty Tufty, Sally` Alley, Scrapple from the Apple, Shedd`s Spread, Sin Den, Slice o`Rice, Slick Rick, SmarteCarte, Spamarama, SpecTech, Stan the Man, Stinky Pinky, Stix Nix, Hix Pix, Cupid Style File, Suds your Duds, Superloopers, Swiss Kriss, Temporary Contemporary, Texas Exes, Throat Coat, Twine Time, Ubby Dubby, Ugh Bug, Vanessa the Undresser, Weegee, Whack Pack, Wicked Pickett, Wooly Bully,
    X-sex, Yak Pak, Yertle the Turtle, Zoo Doo.
    #36Author Martin--cal (272273) 20 Dec 08, 21:57
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    Flo Jo = Flo-Jo
    Florence Griffith-Joyner (born Florence Delorez Griffith[1]), also known as Flo-Jo (December 21, 1959 – September 21, 1998) was an American track and field athlete.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Griffit...

    #37Authorme1 (236101) 20 Dec 08, 22:22
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    Rajin Cajun - a chain of Cajun style restaurants in Tx
    Rhymin Simon- ugly (abusive) rapper in Germany
    Randy Andy- nickname (years ago) for Prince Andrew, before he got married to Sarah (Fergie)
    #38Authorwitch (AE)20 Dec 08, 22:22
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    Stan the Man: see #26
    Yertle the Turtle: see #13
    Quick Pick: see #30
    Spruce Goose: Largest wooden airplane ever built, commissioned by Howard Hughes (late 1930s, I believe)
    Bahama Mama: A song by group Boney M., early 1980s (?). It may have other connotations
    #39AuthorNorbert Juffa (unplugged)20 Dec 08, 22:32
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    Vanessa the Undressa 1984 adult movie with Vanessa del Rio

    Weegee was the pseudonym of Arthur Fellig (June 12, 1899 – December 26, 1968), an American photographer and photojournalist, known for his stark black and white street photography.

    Yertle the Turtle and Other Stories is a picture book collection by Theodor Geisel, published under his more commonly-known pseudonym of Dr. Seuss. It was first released by Random House Books on April 12, 1958, and is written in Seuss's trademark style, using a type of meter called anapestic tetrameter.

    #40Author Carola (236513) 20 Dec 08, 22:34
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    Betsy Wetsy: see #34
    Koo Koo Roo: see #34
    Rolled Gold = Rold Gold: see #34

    Bone Phone: a radio marketed in the early 80s; it draped around your neck, and you "heard" the music partly through your skeletal structure; it was one way to be able to have a portable device in the car without earphones (illegal in California while driving)
    Magilla Gorilla: cartoon character from Hanna-Barbera in the 60s
    Oingo Boingo: American New Wave band
    Puff n Stuff: as spelled, a chain of tobacco stores; spelled Pufnstuf, it refers to H.R. Pufnstuf, the mayor of Living Island, who just happens to be a dragon and the star of the series H.R. Pufnstuf, a cartoon from the late 60s to early 70s
    Shedd's Spread: margarine/oleo - a "butter substitute"
    SmartCarte: rented luggage carts at airports (not the big carts that skycaps use)
    #41Author Robert -- US (328606) 20 Dec 08, 22:58
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    I explained Betsy Wetsy in #4 - was my very first baby doll. Wooly Bully #5 Offered a tentative explanation for Foxy Roxy in #28

    Could Icky Ricky and Juicy Lucy be in reference to Ricky Arnez and Lucille Ball?
    Lucy & Ricky Arnez - Apple Celebrities @ The Apple Collection - [ Diese Seite übersetzen ]16 Feb 2000 ... In 1951 Lucille Ball teamed up with her Cuban-born, bandleader husband, Desi Arnaz, to play the zany middle-class couple, Lucy and Ricky ...
    www.theapplecollection.com/various/Celebrity/ricky_lucy.html - 24k -
    #42Author Carly-AE (237428) 20 Dec 08, 23:45
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    me1 - I should have recognized FuBu, as my son wore nothing but oversized FuBu pants and sweatshirts for a couple of years :-)
    #43Author Carly-AE (237428) 20 Dec 08, 23:47
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    Micmac: The Micmac are a First Nations people in Eastern Canada.
    #44AuthorAika (236276) 21 Dec 08, 00:08
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    Wicked Pickett - A Wilson Pickett album: Amazon.com: The Wicked Pickett: Wilson Pickett: Music - [ Diese Seite übersetzen ]"The Wicked Pickett" is Pickett's third for the label, a terrific set mostly ... "The Wicked Picket" captures Pickett in his stride, and the four star ...
    www.amazon.com/Wicked-Pickett-Wilson/dp/B000024JIX - 310k - Im Cache - Ähnliche Seiten
    #45Author Carly-AE (237428) 21 Dec 08, 00:15
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    HOW COOL IS THAT !?!?!

    TTTTTTTHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNKKKKKK-YYYYYYYYOOOOOOOUUUUUU!!

    (Duntno how 2 articulate my appreciation atm)....

    The list seems 2 shrink by the minute. I have never learned so much new stuff `bout American Culture in such a short amount of time :) !!

    [...]
    #46Authorfritz21 Dec 08, 04:15
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    OT: @ Carly-AE 'wink'. :-)

    Could 'Mingus Among Us' = Charles Mingus?
    Charles Mingus (1922-79), US jazz bassist and composer. A
    leading figure of the 1940s jazz scene, he experimented with atonality and was influenced by gospel and blues. [NOAD]

    Donald Walden: In 1992, he released: A Portrait of You and 5 years later 'A Monk' and 'A Mingus Among Us', a tribute to Thelonious Monk and 'Charles Mingus'.

    http://www.jazzreview.com/articledetails.cfm?...

    http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?i...

    @ all, 'Merry Christmas' 'Season's Greetings'.
    #47Authorme1 (236101) 21 Dec 08, 04:47
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    @Carly #42: Sorry I missed your first mention of Betsy Wetsy. But just for fritz's sake: as I mentioned, Betsy Wetsy was designed to wet her pants. Chatty Cathy had a ring in her back at the neck. When you pulled on the ring, an attached cord caused her to talk (hence the "chatty" part).

    Chilly Willy: another cartoon character, this time a penguin who lived in Fairbanks, Alaska (even though penguins are native only to the southern hemisphere). He was part of the cartoon set under the direction of Walter Lantz, who also presented Woody Woodpecker (a "redheaded" woodpecker with a very obnoxious laugh).
    Cool Yule: Christmas greeting from the 60s (I think) - instead of saying "Merry Christmas", some people said "Have a cool Yule".

    I think a few of the entries are a kind of rhyming slang - adding a name that rhymes with the adjective. I would put the following in that category: Boozy Suzy, Busty Rusty, Dizzy Lizzy, Flirty Gerty, Foxy Roxy (though a connection with "Foxy Lady" has also been suggested in #26), Slick Rick. Icky Ricky and Juicy Lucy could also be in this category, though Carly also suggested a connection to the Ricardos (Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz) in #42.

    Lazy Daisy is an embroidery stitch that results in a pattern that looks like a daisy blossom, but there could be other meanings as well.

    OT: Carly, I really hope the freelance work pans out! I'll keep you in my prayers.
    #48Author Robert -- US (328606) 21 Dec 08, 05:08
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    Texas Exes - a humorous name for the alumni (association) of the University of Texas (at Austin)
    Ubby Dubby - a children's 'secret' language like pig Latin, but adding the sound 'ubby' to every syllable/letter (or something like that); see the PBS children's TV show Zoom for examples
    #49Author hm -- us (236141) 21 Dec 08, 05:26
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    Hackensack

    "I am not from Hackensack" - Zitat aus Death of a Salesman, meaning: Ich bin keine dumme Kuh/ kein Bauerntrampel vom Lande.
    #50Authorshake, rattle and roll21 Dec 08, 06:13
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    @imaginary woman, #24: Yes, you hit the nail on the head :-)

    http://www.toonopedia.com/anniefan.htm it was a cartoon

    Saisonale Grüße an alle!
    #51Authormuzu21 Dec 08, 10:37
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    @Robert - I hadn't even seen your "Betsy Wetsy" explanation - mine was in reference to Norbert Juffa's herioc attempt to filter out "answered/not answered" :-)) My sister had Chatty Cathy, and I got Betsy Wetsy. Robert, thank you - I'll need all the prayers available :-)
    #52Author Carly-AE (237428) 21 Dec 08, 15:00
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    Thanx 2 your support, we`re almost there!!!
    Only few cases remain unsolved :)

    Action Jackson, Annie's Cranny, BestRest, Bonton, Chubby Hubby, Chuck & Buck, Crunch & Munch, Flavor Saver, Handy Andy, Huckabuck, Janet`s Planet, Krik? Krak!, Kundun, Liddle Kiddle, Loopy Doopy, Mango Tango, Mantan, Messy Bessy, Nutty Buddy, Parappa the Rapper, Patel Hotel, Phantom Anthems, Rufty Tufty, Sally` Alley, Scrapple from the Apple, Sin Den, Slice o`Rice, Spamarama, SpecTech, Stinky Pinky, Stix Nix, Hix Pix, Cupid Style File, Suds your Duds, Superloopers, Swiss Kriss, Temporary Contemporary, Throat Coat, Twine Time, Ugh Bug, Whack Pack, Wooly Bully, X-sex, Yak Pak, Zoo Doo.

    @ All: Sincere thanks, aufrichtiger Dank, many thanks!Besten Dank! Thank you very much indeed - herzlichen Dank! Many thanks! Vielen Dank! Thank you very much... vielen Dank, thanks a lot!!!

    You guys, have a real "Cool Yule" :-)))

    @ Carly-AE: I just sent a mindmail to
    support@heaven.god... I hope there will be a response soon (anyway, be patient - you know, the Big Boss has a lot of work to do, these days :)

    And sometimes, even the busiest business(wo)man deserves a little procrastination-time...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_p3IkCD-1M&fe...

    (to view English subtitles, click "^" in the lower right corner of the video display, then click "cc")
    #53Authorfritz21 Dec 08, 18:30
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    http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=pkqaUAhK28k

    Ich habe "Action Jackson" noch nicht gesehen - Entschuldige falls jemand ihn schon gefunden hat. Eine Action Man ähnliche Figur!
    #54Author suziq (315879) 21 Dec 08, 18:48
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    #55Authorme1 (236101) 21 Dec 08, 19:46
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    #56Authorme1 (236101) 21 Dec 08, 19:52
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    Chubby Hubby: According to Wikipedia, yet another flavor of Ben&Jerry ice cream [not one I had been aware of]
    BestRest: I believe this is (was?) a chain of hotels, although I wasn't able to get immediate confirmation via Google.

    I am drawing a complete blank with regard to all other unresolved items.
    #57AuthorNorbert Juffa (unplugged)21 Dec 08, 21:35
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    I think Flavour Saver was a chewing gum brand in the 70ies and 80ies, but there also is a band of that name and a rather unsavioury urbandict entry.

    (Der deutsche Werbespruch zu Tic Tac war übrigens "Tic Tac ist die neue Tak-tik.)

    Kundun is the title of a film about the Dalai Lama: la recherche de Kundun avec Martin Scorsese (1998)
    aka "In Search of Kundun with Martin Scorsese" - USA vgl. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundun)



    #58AuthorCJ unplugged21 Dec 08, 22:03
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    I had always associated Tic Tac with Germany :-))

    OT@fritz, Thank-you, too, for your prayers - yes, I realize He has much to do, and losing my new job right before Christmas will not break my faith in Him - 228 of my colleagues will be loosing their jobs by mid-January, and most of them have been there for decades, and not just months (like me).
    #59Author Carly-AE (237428) 21 Dec 08, 22:29
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    P.S. fritz - I've mentioned Wooly Bully twice already at #5 and #42 :-)
    #60Author Carly-AE (237428) 21 Dec 08, 22:32
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    OT: @ Carly, sorry to hear that. *keeping my fingers crossed for you* *good luck*

    Just a guess.
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=lang_en...

    Swiss Kriss: Swiss Kriss - Natural Herbal Laxative Tabs??


    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=lang_en...

    So, ich muss etwas erledigen.
    #61Authorme1 (236101) 21 Dec 08, 22:59
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    Hi,
    My first time here.
    Slick Rick is a rapper from the 1980's one of the first to crossover to pop.
    Bahama Mama is a cocktail.
    Crunch and Munch is caramel corn with peanuts.
    Flavor Saver is a beard.
    Whack Pack is a group of characters on the Howard Stern radio show.
    Oingo Boingo is a band, shoegazers.
    Puff n Stuff is a magical creature from a kid's show in the 1970's.
    Quick pick is a machine picked lottery number.
    Scrapple from the Apple is a brand of scrapple, a pork parts spread.
    x-sex is sex with your ex.
    Shedd's spread is a fake butter.
    Is slice o'rice some kind of rice cake?

    #62Authorcabin fever in Seattle22 Dec 08, 01:05
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    http://www.janetsplanet.com/

    Never heard of it until now.
    #63Authorhi22 Dec 08, 01:12
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    BestRest is registered as a trademark in the US for "adjustable motorcycle luggage carrier and seat back"

    I don't know if that is meant here though...


    http://www.uspto.gov/main/trademarks.htm
    #64Authormuzu22 Dec 08, 09:55
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    hi, thanks for finding that. Wird meinem Sohn das "Warten aufs Christkind" verkürzen :-)

    OT: Das hier funktioniert auch prima: http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/special/pape...
    #65Authormuzu22 Dec 08, 10:00
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    "Dizzy Lizzy" bezieht sich auf den Beatles-Song "Dizzy Miss Lizzy" (letztes Lied auf "Help".
    #66AuthorReinh62 (536689) 22 Dec 08, 11:56
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    "Wooly Bully" ist ein Lied von Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs. War 1965 ein Hit.
    #67AuthorReinh62 (536689) 22 Dec 08, 11:59
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    "Busty Rusty" ist ein Transsexueller aus dem Film "Flawless", gespielt von Philip Seymour Hoffman.
    #68AuthorReinh62 (536689) 22 Dec 08, 12:05
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    "Boozy Suzy" ist die 31jährige Ex-Weltmeisterin der "Pillow Fight League". Ja, das gibt's wirklich - eine Art "Alles ist erlaubt"-Kampf mit großen Kissen. Also eine Art Kissenschlacht.
    #69AuthorReinh62 (536689) 22 Dec 08, 12:10
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    "Flirty Gerty" ist ein Lied von Jazz-Musiker Hank Mobley (von der CD "Hi Voltage").

    Roberts Meinung in Post 48 ("I think a few of the entries are a kind of rhyming slang - adding a name that rhymes with the adjective.") würde ich widersprechen. ALLES in diesem Gedicht scheint sich auf etwas zu beziehen.
    #70AuthorReinh62 (536689) 22 Dec 08, 12:31
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    Moreover, I would like to contradict Carly (post 26).
    Stan the Man may be a rather well known baseball player. But surely more famous is Stan "the Man" Lee - creator and author of Marvel super heroes like Spider-Man, the Fantastic Four, Hulk, X-Men etc. etc.
    I'd even think that this baseball guy named himself after Stan Lee - who called himself "the Man" since the early sixties.
    #71AuthorReinh62 (536689) 22 Dec 08, 12:44
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    "Krik? Krak!" is a book by Edwidge Danticat, published 1996.
    #72AuthorReinh62 (536689) 22 Dec 08, 12:48
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    I remember Action Jackson as an Action Movie or Series of the 80s...
    #73AuthorJack Black22 Dec 08, 13:58
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    "Mango Tango" könnte ein Getränk sein, siehe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tango_(soft_drink)
    Und im Zoo Doo war ich in Tasmanien, da war es ein kleiner Tierpark, siehe http://www.zoodoo.com.au/

    #74Authorzwieselhaar22 Dec 08, 15:03
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    Reinh62, Well, I lived in St. Louis in the early 60s, when the Cardinals won the World Series, so I'm rather partial :-)) I've mentioned Wooly Bully 3 times already - must be invisible :-)
    #75Author Carly-AE (237428) 22 Dec 08, 15:21
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    @Reinh62 #70: My post (#48) was a speculation, since English does use that type of rhyming ("He was real loosey-goosey" http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/loo...) as well as alliteration ("Gloomy Gus"). I am happy to learn more about aspects of my own culture that I missed, but since the names are "Terms of Art" (pun alert), don't you think their creators were aware of the connotations when they chose/created them? For example, is it a coincidence that a doll that wets itself was named "Betsy Wetsy" or a doll that talks was "Chatty Cathy"? I think not.

    Also, re #71: Until the recent blockbuster films based on Marvel Comics came out, I am certain that most Americans would have identified "Stan the Man" as Stan Musial, not Stan Lee. That may still be the case. I just googled "stan the man", and the first two hits were for Stan Musial. Stan Lee doesn't even appear in the first ten hits. (I know that isn't "proof", but it should indicate something of the perception.) Even with the Marvel-based hits, people know the names of the characters not the creator. (Similarly, most Americans are more interested in the stars of films than the directors.)
    #76Author Robert -- US (328606) 22 Dec 08, 20:25
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    By the time Stan Lee came along to call himself "the man," my Stan Musial had helped win the World Series, and then retired. I was THERE, and he had long been Stan the Man :-))
    Stanley Frank Musial (born November 21, 1920), originally Stanisław Franciszek Musiał, (pronounced /ˈmjuːziəl/), nicknamed "Stan the Man" and "The Donora Greyhound", is an American former player in Major League Baseball who played 22 seasons for the St. Louis Cardinals from 1941 to 1963. He is considered the greatest player in the history of the St. Louis Cardinals[1] and one of the greatest baseball players of all time.[2]

    #77Author Carly-AE (237428) 22 Dec 08, 22:45
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    Ich sollte eigentlich arbeiten.

    How could I forget Nutty Buddy?

    Nutty Buddy Cone Crunch Ice Cream..
    http://www.petdairy.com/subpage.php?pageId=436

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutty_Buddy
    Nutty Buddy is an ice cream cone topped with vanilla ice cream, chocolate and peanuts, manufactured in the United States.



    Herbal tea "Throat Coat"??

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    • What will Throat Coat® do for me? Throat Coat provides a rapid, temporary relief of sore throat pain

    http://www.gnc.com/sm-traditional-medicinals-...

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_qdr=all...

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=lang_en...

    Back to work.
    #78Authorme1 (236101) 22 Dec 08, 23:21
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    @ Carly: Okay, Stanley Frank Musial was first. I bow my head and apologize. It's just that I've grown up with Marvel Comics in the 60ies and 70ies and they had "Stan the Man Lee" plastered all over their splash pages (first page with the credits).
    Their total print run was enormous (over a million copies). A whole generation has grown up with these comics. (They were - and still are - on TV, too.)

    @ Robert: Your're absolutely right, of course. This type of rhyming is very common. I only surmised that the author is not simply playing with rhymes but that everything in this poem is a reference to something "meaningful".
    #79AuthorReinh6223 Dec 08, 09:33
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    #80Authornoli23 Dec 08, 10:48
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    patel hotel
    Mr. Patel = the Indian Mr. Smith
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3177054.stm
    #81Authornoli23 Dec 08, 10:58
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    Reinh, Right, and I grew up with Superman, Batman, Riichie Rich, Caspar the friendly Ghost :-)) Spiderman was never really "my thing" - but my Dad liked him :-)
    #82Author Carly-AE (237428) 23 Dec 08, 13:12
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    Seems to me fritz went on holiday while we keep guessing.

    The Marvels in the 70/80ties certainly plastered Stan Lee's name all over them (was slightly addicted to The Avengers and Spiderman at that time, Fantastic Four were interesting too - but back then, they were all nice guys - and a few girls - who knew the good guys acted good - that was what made them good guys. Nowadays, no superhero goes out of his way to rescue a bad guy in distress or tries to avoid killing the bad guy. Never dared to see the films.

    @carly: That's bad news about your job. I'm sorry. keeping my fingers crossed for you. (The companies in the US market are really hit hard, my life would be easier, too, if the subprimes didn't cave in and took a lot of other things with them.)
    #83AuthorCJ unplugged23 Dec 08, 13:48
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    @CJ, Thank you! Yeah, my salary was being paid through US HQs and the German site had no idea I was to be laid off, until it happened. Not quite sure what "subprimes" are, but hope all works out for you, too. For me, anyway, free-lancing is much more promising than the certainy of being a HarzIV-Empfängerin in 4.5 months....got one new potential customer, yesterday and one definite :-))
    #84Author Carly-AE (237428) 23 Dec 08, 17:02
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    I think Flavor Saver, before acquiring its other meaning referenced in the Urban Dictionary, was an off-brand of Tupperware like plastic storage containers. I'm not 100% sure, but mostly sure.

    BestRest strikes me as a brand of mattresses, but I have nothing definite to base that on, other than it seems like something I might have heard once.
    #85AuthorAmy-MiMi, unplugged23 Dec 08, 18:15
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    Phantom Anthems.

    Just a guess.

    Edition #24: Robert Grenier Interview, Pt. 1
    listen | listen with RealPlayer
    First broadcast October 30, 2006

    Robert Grenier in conversation with Charles Bernstein. Grenier discusses his development as a "poet", his breaking away from conventional book publications, his movement toward handwritten "drawn" poems, and his relation to Larry Eigner. Grenier is a poet who lives in Bolinas, California. His works include Sentences, A Day at the Beach, and "Phantom Anthems".. Over the past decade, Grenier has created handwritten poems that cross the upper limit of inscription to be both writing and drawing.
    http://www.wps1.org/new_site/component/option...

    Grenier is the author of several books, including "Dusk Road Games" (1966), "Sentences" (1978), and "Phantom Anthems" (1986).

    http://media.www.mainecampus.com/media/storag...

    http://www.wps1.org/new_site/component/option...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Grenier_(poet)

    http://content.cdlib.org/view?docId=ft5k4005j...

    #86Authorme1 (236101) 23 Dec 08, 18:19
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    @Reinh #79: And your surmise was right - so far everything has a specific reference. As I said, I'm learning things about American culture that I didn't know before - and I was born and grew up here.

    Here's an updated list of terms not explained:

    Annie's Cranny, Bonton, Chuck & Buck, Huckabuck, Loopy Doopy, Mantan, Messy Bessy, Rufty Tufty, Sally` Alley, Slice o`Rice, SpecTech, Stinky Pinky, Stix Nix, Hix Pix, Cupid Style File, Superloopers, Twine Time, Ugh Bug, Whack Pack, Yak Pak.

    Crunch & Munch: a candy-coated popcorn and peanuts mix from Con-Agra; apparently a competitor of Cracker Jacks
    Handy Andy: a brand of children's play tools (among other things)
    Liddle Kiddle: a line of dolls from Mattel
    Sin Den: I just know this as a rhyming term for place of iniquity
    Slice o' Rice: I'm leaving this one because the reference was so tentative. Anyone?
    Spamarama: an annual festival in Austin, Texas, that celebrates Spam (the food, not the internet plague)
    Temporary Contemporary: Former name of "The Geffen Contemporary at MOCA". The Los Angeles Museum of Contemporary Art was waiting to get into their new location. While waiting they rented a building as an interim exposition space. Thus, "Temporary Contemporary". The location proved so suitable that they continued renting even after opening the new location. The David Geffen Foundation later donated a great deal of money to MOCA, so they renamed the space.

    @CJ #83: Yeah, whatever happened to fritz? He was so enthusiastic at the start of this thread.
    #87Author Robert -- US (328606) 23 Dec 08, 19:36
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    Chuck & Buck

    Just a guess.

    http://www.amazon.com/Chuck-Buck-Mike-White/d...
    Chuck & Buck (2000)
    Starring: Mike White, Chris Weitz Director: Miguel Arteta

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=Chuck...

    http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title.jsp?stid=442895
    Overview for Chuck and Buck (2000)
    Brief Synopsis:
    Two friends, inseparable in their youth, have grown up to be complete opposites. Charlie Sitter (aka Chuck) is living the American Dream. A fast-rising executive in the music business, he's not yet thirty but, ambitious, confident, and handsome. Chuck has already acquired all the trappings of success...

     
    Back to work.
    #88Authorme1 (236101) 23 Dec 08, 20:03
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    Yak Pak seems to be a company that produces daypacks and totes.
    See http://www.yakpak.com/

    And really funny is the meaning of "stix nix" and "hix pix" (yes, these two belong together). I quote from wikipedia:

    STICKS NIX HICK PIX is one of the most famous headlines ever to appear in an American publication. It was printed in Variety, a newspaper covering Hollywood and the entertainment industry, on July 17, 1935, over an article about the reaction of rural audiences to movies about rural life.

    Using a form of headlinese that the newspaper called slanguage, "Sticks Nix Hick Pix" means that people in rural areas ("the sticks") reject ("nix") motion pictures ("pix") about rural life ("hicks"). [end of quote]

    Later versions (i.e. parodies of the original headline) transformed the "cks" and "ck" to "x" - e.g. (I quote again):

    A 1984 novel by David Burdett was titled 'Hix Nix Stix Pix'.
    In the Tiny Toon Adventures episode, "Thirteensomething" while Plucky reads the newspaper (Varietoon, obviously a parody of Variety) one of the headlines is "Hix Nix Stix Pix".

    #89AuthorReinh62 (536689) 23 Dec 08, 21:18
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    "stinky pinky" can be found in the... uh-oh... "Dictionary of sexual terms".
    (All minors please avert your eyes...)
    It means: "Digital stimulation of a woman's vagina with one or more fingers."
    #90AuthorReinh62 (536689) 23 Dec 08, 21:33
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    "Messy Bessy" is a series of children's books by Pat McKissack.

    Volumes include "Messy Bessey and the Birthday Overnight", "Messy Bessey's Closet", "Messy Bessey's Family Reunion", "Messy Bessey's Garden", and so on.

    These books are meant for very young readers - or "rookie readers" as it says on the covers.


    #91AuthorReinh62 (536689) 23 Dec 08, 21:43
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    I suppose stinky pinky as cited in #90 is named after something else that was there before - I do not think this poem would include things with only aduld-only meanings.

    Merry Cristmas, BTW.


    (Carly: The subprimes, i.e. loans to people who were earning not much and whose paying them was dubious, were what started this unholy mess of an economic downward spiral.)
    #92AuthorCJ unplugged24 Dec 08, 01:08
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    A stinky pinky is also a "riddle" where he answer is two rhyming words. (For fans of the game show Jeopardy!, this corresponds to the category "Rhyme Time")
    Examples:
    What's a large feline? (Fat Cat)
    What's a smelling finger? (Stinky Pinky)

    http://library.thinkquest.org/J0111282/stinky...
    #93Author Robert -- US (328606) 24 Dec 08, 01:21
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    Twine Time.
    As usual, just a guess.

    The following is taken from a newswire report
    Alvin Cash, reached the USA pop charts in 1965 with Twine Time died in his sleep on Nov. 21, 1999, in Chicago. Cash in no small way helped to provide the music and inspiration by which black America danced in the 1960s, not only with Twine Time but with other notable dance hits such as The Barracuda (#15 R&B Cash Box) in 1965, the "Philly Freeze" (#7 R&B Cash Box) and Alvin's Boogaloo (#38 R&B Cash Box), both in 1966.
    Cash was born Alvin de Forrest Welch on Feb. 15, 1939, in St. Louis. There he attended Sumner High. When he was around 21 he formed a dance team, the Little Step Brothers, with his brothers Robert, Rubin, and George. The Little Step Brothers moved to Chicago in 1963 and changed their name to Alvin Cash And The Crawlers. There, they met famed producer Andre Williams, who launched Cash's career. For George Leaner's Mar-V-lus label (a subsidiary of One-derful), Williams wanted to record a dance record after a popular dance, The Twine, and recruited Cash. The result was Twine Time, released in November 1964 The song was essentially an instrumental with Cash chanting out the occasional lyrics. By early 1965, the record had gone to #1 R&B in Cash Box and #14 Pop in Billboard), thereby launching Cash's career.

    http://www.soulbot.com/Alvin%20Cash.htm

    Twine Time
    by Alvin Cash & The Crawlers
    From the Album An Introduction To Chicago Soul

    http://www.amazon.com/Twine-Time/dp/B0011GC9P...


    books.google.com/books?id=2kkcmS0AzMEC&pg=PA227&lpg=PA227&dq="Twine+Time"&source=bl&ots=5hBKvRF-Cc&sig=RVLB1JC_KG0otyVePhaXe6-4KH8&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=10&ct=result#PPA227,M1

    http://books.google.com/books?id=2kkcmS0AzMEC...

    #94Authorme1 (236101) 24 Dec 08, 04:20
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    Vielleicht kam es schon vor, aber wenn nicht: Janet's Planet KÖNNTE eine Anspielung auf den Song "Planet-Schmanet-Janet" aus der "Rocky Horror Picture Show" sein.
    #95Author imaginary woman (398289) 15 Jan 09, 13:51
     
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