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    geht nicht gibts nicht

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    „O8/15 geht nicht- gibt’s nicht!- "

    this is a marketing brochure for a company explaining their work ethic etc.
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    I'm clueless. so, 08/15 is either run-of-the-mill or standard.
    geht nicht-gibt nicht is maybe something like "don't try- do it!"

    or does anyone have a better English version? And I don't really understand the use of them together.
    is it something like:run-of-the-mill excuses have no place here in this great company? sorry I digress... been translating for too long today!!
    well, if anyone out there can understand me I'd really appreciate the help!

    thanks!
    Authortitelannie07 Sep 07, 16:59
    Suggestion08/15 is not an option
    #1AuthorWerner (236488) 07 Sep 07, 17:03
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    thanks Werner, it's not an option is very good. but what about 08/15? as this expression doesn't exist in English...

    commonplace is not an option ?
    #2Authortitelannie07 Sep 07, 17:07
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    unlike others, we never say never
    #3Author wundertype.de (243076) 07 Sep 07, 17:09
    SuggestionThere's no such thing as ordinary at (company)
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    Null-Acht Funfzehn was a designation of a standard issue WWI machine gun, and from this has come to have the meaning of "standard, run-of-the-mill, not special". (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_08)

    This doesn't translate directly, but "There's no such thing as ordinary at (company)" might be a way of expressing it in an english language marketing brochure. There are many ways of formulating this, it's not a translator you need, it's a copywriter.

    Ideas:
    There's no such thing as ordinary at (company)
    We don't know the meaning of the word "average"
    #4Authorhotmetal (BE)07 Sep 07, 17:11
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    #5Authorholger (236115) 07 Sep 07, 17:16
    Suggestiongeht nicht, gibt's nicht
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    What about: Doesn't function, not available??
    #6Authorkingpin07 Sep 07, 17:18
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    If the message is that their work is above average the "geht nicht" bit is out of place.

    If the message is that there is nothing they would not be able to perform, the "08/15" bit is out of place.

    So, first of all, titelannie, you will have to find out what the actual message is!
    #7AuthorBastian07 Sep 07, 17:18
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    thanks you guys! I especially like hotmetal (BE)'s idea:
    There's no such thing as ordinary at (company)
    We don't know the meaning of the word "average"

    I think that's the right direction.
    It just might do the trick!

    thanks for lightening the load!

    #8Authortitelannie07 Sep 07, 17:20
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    It's the context that should be lighening the road. Please make sure that the intended meaning is that of the phrase you like so much.
    #9AuthorHeather07 Sep 07, 17:26
    Suggestionordinary is not an option
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    muss ja nicht 1:1 sein

    Der vorschlag von Werner ist (abgesehen von 08/15) ja sehr gut.
    #10Authorsjm07 Sep 07, 17:33
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    Ja, das deutsche Original ist ziemlich krude. Ich verstehe es so: Das standardmäßige "geht nicht" gibt's bei uns nicht.

    Überdurchschnittlich wäre dann nur die Tatsache, dass man sich drum kümmert, aber nicht zwingend das Ergebnis.
    #11Author wundertype.de (243076) 07 Sep 07, 17:36
    SuggestionOrdinary is not an option- we just don't try, we succeed.
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    for all you all-knowing secretive translators out there,
    would you say this is something like what they meant?

    #12Authortitelannie07 Sep 07, 17:42
    SuggestionWe never say no?
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    Ich verstehe es so: Man kann nicht bei dieser Firma durchschnittliche Arbeitsqualität bestellen, weil die voll auf Qualität stehen. Daher "08/15 geht nicht". Eher dies als "Das übliche 'Es tut uns leid aber nein'".

    Entscheidend wäre der Kontext. Wenn der nächste Satz vorhanden wäre, denn hätten wir diesen Unterschied zu diskutieren. Mehr Text bitte, dann können wir die Übersetzung besser anpassen.
    #13Authorhotmetal (BE)07 Sep 07, 17:44
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    The best so far as far as I'm concerned!
    #14Authornicky07 Sep 07, 17:47
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    No, I think titelannie has already got the perfect translation - that's exactly as I understand it!
    #15Authornicky07 Sep 07, 17:48
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    Ich finde die Übersetzungen auch in Ordnung. Nach langem Überlegen verstehe ich den Slogan so:
    08-15 geht nicht (weil das ja langweilig ist) und daher gibt's das bei uns nicht.
    #16AuthorTraumvogel (353757) 07 Sep 07, 17:51
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    We make even the impossible possible.
    #17Author Selkie (236097) 07 Sep 07, 17:52
    Suggestionthinking inside the box? Not with us
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    Just to add my useless mustard ;-)
    #18AuthorBacon [de] (264333) 07 Sep 07, 17:53
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    @Bacon #18
    wäre das nicht genau das Gegenteil
    wenn man an eine "black box" denkt ??

    Zur Frage:
    -- ich grüble noch :-)
    #19Authorkris7 (350608) 07 Sep 07, 18:00
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    Naja, ich dachte an dieses "to think outside the box" für "um die Ecke denken, unkonventionelle Lösungen, etc." Hab ich hal umgedreht, um das abgedroschene "we think outside the box" mal zu vermeiden ;-)
    #20AuthorBacon [de] (264333) 07 Sep 07, 18:03
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    @Bacon #20
    "stattgegeben" - dann habe ich wohl "doppelt-quer" gedacht ;-)

    - und mein Technik-Affinität kann ich halt nicht verstecken ..
    #21Authorkris7 (350608) 07 Sep 07, 18:06
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    @Traumvogel: "Nach langem Überlegen verstehe ich den Slogan so"

    Schön und gut, aber es bleibt eine Interpretation. titelannie sollte endlich mehr Kontext herausrücken!
    #22AuthorWouldyoubelieveit07 Sep 07, 18:07
    Suggestioncontext
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    okay,okay!I had to eat something. here is some context:
     

    „O8/15 geht nicht- gibt’s nicht!- Um Nischenprodukte langfristig erfolgreich zu vermarkten, kennen wir die Wünsche unserer Kunden- B2B und B2C- und besitzen die Fähigkeit, Markttrends frühzeitig zu erkennen und die Marketingstrategien entsprechend auszurichten.
    #23Authortitelannie07 Sep 07, 18:28
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    @titelannie
    Ohne dem Werbetexter zu nahe treten zu wollen, aber schon der deutsche Satz ist mMn "Schmarrn"

    08/15 geht nicht -- o.k.
    dann aber wohl ein: wir wir haben die Lösung oder sowas

    m2c
    #24Authorkris7 (350608) 07 Sep 07, 18:32
    SuggestionWe don't do 'no can do'
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    If the stress is more on the fact that they go the extra mile and do the impossible and not so much on the 08/15.
    #25Author Carola (236513) 07 Sep 07, 18:50
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    I agree, the text is rubbish! I don't write 'em I just translate.
    anyway... it seems we all agree that it makes little sense but we get the idea. i guess I'll just leave it at that, and hope after finishing the rough draft I'll have a better feel for the whole thing and will have some brilliant idea that sounds better in English than it does in German. but I sure couldn't do it with out you!
    well, thank you for all your help. it was fun!
    hope to "see" you all again soon.

    #26Authortitelannie07 Sep 07, 19:06
    SuggestionThere's no such thing as "no can do."
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    #27Authordrj07 Sep 07, 20:45
    SuggestionNo way for "no way"
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    http://www.bluebiotech.de/com/profil/vertrieb.htm
    Our Marketing-Motto: There's no way for ''no way!''

    http://www.bluebiotech.de/de/profil/vertrieb.htm
    Unser Motto: Geht nicht - gibt's nicht!

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    I thought I had something new - but Google listed the above. I'd go without the "There is", though. For me it destroys the rhythm.

    I'd read the original phrase "08/15 geht nicht - gibt's nicht" as: If there is a solution, we will find it. Just saying no ("08/15 geht nicht") because there is no easy way is not an option.
    But we do not promise the impossible. Along the line: "We try hard - but if you insist on a perpetual motion machine, even we can't help."

    @titelannie_#12 "Ordinary is not an option- we just don't try, we succeed."
    Not sure, that fits. I'd translate that as "... wir versuchen's einfach nicht, wir schaffen's" whereas you seemed to want "... wir versuchen's nicht einfach/nur, wir schaffen's".
    #28Authordie waldfee (365005) 07 Sep 07, 21:17
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    @titelannie: I disagree that we get the idea. The following sentence doesn't shed any light on the meaning of the strange phrase. The company is doing their homework - that's what we can deduct from sentence 2, but it doesn't provide any clue as to the message of the preceding phrase. I guess you have much more context than just one additional sentence (what kind of company it is, what product(s) they are promoting, what message they want to convey). Can't you enlighten us a bit more?
    #29AuthorOprah07 Sep 07, 23:17
     
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