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    dichten und trachten

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    Dann wurden sie muessig, fingen an zu dichten und zu trachten.
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    Religious context.
    AuthorDalek03 Nov 07, 12:41
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    For 'dichten', Dictionary: dichten . . .

    for 'trachten', check:

    to aspire = trachten |trachtete, getrachtet|
    to strive after = nach etw. trachten |trachtete, getrachtet|
    to strive for nach etw. trachten |trachtete, getrachtet|
    to endeavorAE, endeavourBE to = trachten zu |trachtete, getrachtet|
    to aspire to do sth. = danach trachten, etw. zu tun
    to seek to do sth. = danach trachten, etw. zu tun [form.]
    . . .
    #1AuthorDaddy03 Nov 07, 12:47
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    Thanks, but I thought there might be some special use here. When they are together in this context, how can they become lazy if they have aspirations?
    #2AuthorDalek03 Nov 07, 12:50
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    Actually, you are right. It doesn't make sense.
    "Dichten und trachten" in a religious or old-fashioned poetic context does mean "planning, striving", that is correct. It does not really go together with being lazy.
    Maybe you can give us a bit more context?
    #3AuthorAnna03 Nov 07, 13:35
    SuggestionThey got tired of (whatever they were doing) and started thinking up some other nonsense
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    Could that be it (not a very literal translation of course)?

    "Dichten" in this context does NOT mean "to write poetry" or any of the other usual translations. In the old-fashioned poetic context of "trachten" it is used synonimously.
    #4AuthorAnna03 Nov 07, 13:43
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    Ist ein bisschen alt.
    s. Grimm 4. nach etwas, auf etwas dichten, trachten etwas zu erreichen. (Dort letztes Beispiel von Schiller, 1759-1805)

    #5Author manni3 (305129) 03 Nov 07, 13:48
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    ANNA thanks very much - that really helps.

    Yes, I know it's old, it's from 1840!
    #6AuthorDalek03 Nov 07, 13:51
     
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