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    I am enjoying... "doing something" - or - "to do something"?

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    I am enjoying... "doing something" - or - "to do something"?

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    Which is the right version?

    "I am enjoying eating pizza."
    or:
    "I am enjoying to eat pizza."

    Die erste Variante fühlt sich richtiger an, klingt aber blöd.

    Wäre es anders bei einer Formulierung im Sinne von:

    "..., apart from enjoying...", "..., besides enjoying...", etc.

    ? Denke nicht, oder?

    Authornick30 Sep 08, 22:13
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    You can say "I enjoy eating pizza," but if you're doing it right now, I'd suggest "I'm enjoying this pizza."
    #1Authordude (unplugged)30 Sep 08, 22:42
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    Wenn es um generelle Aussagen geht, dann sollte es

    "I enjoy eating pizza." heissen (=>"Ich esse gern pizza.")

    "I am enjoying..." bedeutet ja, dass man es gerade in diesem Moment tut. In dem Fall würde ich einfach "I am enjoying the/my pizza." sagen (=>"Die Pizza schmeckt mir gut.")

    Kommt wirklich immer auf den Kontext an.
    #2Author Rotkehlchen (460629) 30 Sep 08, 22:45
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    Man, am I slow tonight... dude got there first ;-)
    #3Author Rotkehlchen (460629) 30 Sep 08, 22:46
    SuggestionO.k this isn't really about pizza.
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    I just thought, I can use it as a neutral example. It's really about the combination of two verbs in continuous from. Maybe I should have chosen a verb, that doesn't go with an object.

    How about "talking"? Or "shopping"? "...apart from enjoying talking"? Sounds really strange to me and would even get wors with "shopping". Or is your advice, to rephrase the whole sentence and simply prevent the combination of two verbs in such a way?
    #4Authornick30 Sep 08, 22:53
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    I wouldn't combine two "ing" verbs unless one of them is used as a gerund, like for example: "I'm enjoying the acting in this play."

    Otherwise, I would simply drop the second verb and say "I'm enjoying ... (whatever it is)." If that makes it unclear what you want to say, you could also try saying it differently: "I'm enjoying swimming" ->> "I'm enjoying the water." for instance.
    #5Authordude (unplugged)30 Sep 08, 22:57
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    For example, you're obliged to say:
    I'm looking forward to meeting you.
    #6Author maxxpf (361343) 30 Sep 08, 23:01
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    @maxxpf: but that's different. You don't have two verbs directly following each other.
    #7Authordude (unplugged)30 Sep 08, 23:05
    SuggestionMy gut feeling just says the same.
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    Do not combine two -ing verbs. But what could I chose instead of talking then?

    "...apart from enjoying talking to xy"

    Discussion wouldn't work in my context.
    #8Authornick30 Sep 08, 23:08
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    since it's happening right now, you could say "I'm enjoying our conversation," for instance.
    #9Authordude (unplugged)30 Sep 08, 23:09
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    sorry, I misread your sentence. Here maybe: "Apart from the fact that I enjoy talking to ..."
    #10Authordude (unplugged)30 Sep 08, 23:11
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    Isn't it quite okay then, still, stylistically and grammatically, to say, for example:
    "I'm really enjoying talking to you!"
    #11Author maxxpf (361343) 30 Sep 08, 23:12
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    Let's count the google hits again:
    at least around 1400 for "enjoying talking to you", mainly in informal situatios such as blogs.
    #12Author maxxpf (361343) 30 Sep 08, 23:22
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    @maxxpf: anything can be said, but whether its good form/style is another question. And google is not the authority on good style. I wouldn't recommend it, or write it myself if at all possible.
    #13Authordude (unplugged)30 Sep 08, 23:24
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    I don't have the time to learn vocabulary or read about grammar nowadays. But I use the English language as good as I can and I listen carefully to my gut feeling, because usually if it tells me, that something sounds wrong, it is wrong. Most of the time I write informal letters, so it doesn't really matter, if there are mistakes or not. But if I don't care about mistakes, I will make them again and again and I might even get used to them.

    So I prefer to ask, everytime something sounds wrong. That's how I learn and improve my skills, no matter, if it's for something informal or if I am going to publish something.

    And I wouldn't trust the majority of the Google results either. A few hundred years ago, the majority would have said, the earth is flat.
    #14Authornick30 Sep 08, 23:55
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    Good evening, dude :-) I would second you on this point - I am enjoying this conversation as opposed to the other version (which you will indeed hear spoken without it turning anyone's head)
    #15Author suziq (315879) 30 Sep 08, 23:56
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    @nick - then just a quick correction: I use the language as well as I can (adverb describing "use")
    #16Author suziq (315879) 30 Sep 08, 23:58
    SuggestionAutsch!
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    Thanks. Well, but you believe me, that I do know that. Normally...;)
    #17Authornick01 Oct 08, 00:07
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    @suziq: and a good evening to you, too. It's been a while. :-)
    #18Authordude (unplugged)01 Oct 08, 00:09
     
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