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    lovely / would a man use this word?

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    lovely / would a man use this word?

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    I've found this small dialogue:

    'Do you think we could meet tomorrow?'
    'Yes, that would be lovely.'

    Would a man answer like this using the word 'lovely'? It sounds like an answer given by a woman or am I mistaken?

    Thanks for your help!
    AuthorSaba08 Mar 10, 13:51
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    I think it's lovely that you ask such a question. The answer is yes.
    #1AuthorA man08 Mar 10, 13:52
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    That would be great...das wäre prima
    That would be lovely....das wäre sehr schön
    #2Authordeirjon (672370) 08 Mar 10, 13:54
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    Hier hab ich gerade etwas Interessantes gefunden. Man kann einen Text (mindestens 300 Wörter) eingeben, und dann wird analysiert, ob der Text eher von einem Mann oder einer Frau stammt.

    Probiert habe ich's noch nicht, aber deine Frage, Saba, finde ich sehr interessant und absolut nicht trivial.

    Hier der Link:
    http://www.hackerfactor.com/GenderGuesser.html
    #3Author wupperwolf (411909) 08 Mar 10, 14:19
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    Luvverly jubberly!
    #4AuthorDel Boy08 Mar 10, 14:35
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    @ Wupperwolf

    thx, a lovely link!
    #5Authormike the man08 Mar 10, 14:40
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    sure, why not?
    #6AuthorJARRED08 Mar 10, 14:41
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    this is a lovely thread. :-)
    #7Author dude (253248) 08 Mar 10, 14:43
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    Pal: Hey dude, beer tonight?
    Me: Yeah, that would be lovely.
    I find that rather unlikely.

    Girl: Hey Asdf, fancy a drink tonight?
    Me: Yeah, that would be lovely.
    Can imagine it here.

    IMHO it depends on who you are talking to and what age you are.
    #8AuthorAsdf (481171) 08 Mar 10, 14:50
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    Vielen Dank für Eure interessante Beiträge!

    Saba
    #9AuthorSaba08 Mar 10, 23:07
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    Lovely to me sounds very much like a British colloquialism.
    #10Author maxxpf (361343) 08 Mar 10, 23:11
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    you'd be fooling yourself, maxxpf.
    #11Author dude (253248) 08 Mar 10, 23:14
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    http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/a/...

    To actually give an example: in the instances that Hugh Grant alias Will Freeman uses "lovely" in the British movie "About a Boy", I dare say an American script would have used other words.
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    #11 - I mean "lovely" not necessarily in the sense of beautiful or nice, but with the meaning of "fine with me, practical, useful" and not used by women!! :-)
    Anyway I would argue that most American men do not frequently use "lovely" in general, as opposed to American women. :-)
    #12Author maxxpf (361343) 08 Mar 10, 23:44
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    could you qualify your statement just a bit more, maxxpf? How about "lovely" as used by American homosexuals who have an affinity for flowers but aren't gardners themselves and who eat vegetarian food at least twice a week unless they're invited to a free steak dinner on Saturdays and who are between 5-foot-4 and six feet tall with no to little facial hair?
    #13Author dude (253248) 09 Mar 10, 00:14
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    "Would a man answer like this using the word 'lovely'? It sounds like an answer given by a woman or am I mistaken?"

    I think you're right - it's very unlikely a man would answer that way. (At least in American English.)
    #14AuthorMartin-cal in the wild09 Mar 10, 00:14
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    Dearest Dude, you are in rare form tonight!

    It is always lovely to read your witty side...:)
    #15Author missmiddlemarch (641716) 09 Mar 10, 00:48
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    #16Authornoli (489500) 09 Mar 10, 00:58
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    Another American here...

    Not a trivial question! These fine details of word usage are important to us all on both sides of GermanEnglish.

    American men don't often use the word "lovely" be it figuratively or actually.

    An American man will typically use "nice, great, cool, fine," almost any word BUT lovely.

    An exception might be a man paying his wife a sincere compliment, "You look lovely tonight, baby."

    (Notice how he jokes it off by following it with "baby" instead of "darling" or "dear")

    "Lovely" tends to sound either very British, effete or effeminate, which Americans tend to categorize pretty much as the same thing ... sadly.
    #17AuthormikeS (366927) 09 Mar 10, 04:45
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    But mikestorer, you've just used the word lovely four times yourself! Or perhaps you're a woman.
    #18Author??09 Mar 10, 09:07
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    #19AuthorRobbie09 Mar 10, 09:09
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    a man?
    #20Authornoli (489500) 09 Mar 10, 09:14
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    I would say that women use the word "lovely" more often in BE. There are some men who use it all the time, but some use it almost as a joke because it is a more typically feminine thing to say. Hugh Grant not setting the standard for hairy-chested masculinity.
    #21AuthorCM2DD (236324) 09 Mar 10, 09:20
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    #21 - I don't want to argue with that. Still, British men, we all agree I think, use "lovely" much more often on average than American men do.
    The thing that I clearly remember that I really was a bit surprised when I was in England for the first time that "lovely" was much more abundantly used by either men or women than I had been used to and in situations when I "normally" would have rather expected something like fine, nice, great, cool, if at all, in situations like these:
    "I'd like four tickets for the 8 o'clock show." - "Oh, lovely!"
    ...
    That seemed very strange to me indeed.
    #22Author maxxpf (361343) 09 Mar 10, 14:02
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    #22 I can't say that the lack of the word "lovely" in American men's conversation has ever come to my attention :-) I suppose it's a difference that is only likely to be spotted by Americans.
    #23AuthorCM2DD (236324) 09 Mar 10, 14:10
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    Sure. That would be lovely is like saying that would be great. Men use it all the time, why not? Never gave it a thought.
    #24AuthorDoug09 Mar 10, 14:17
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    Interesting how different the perception is: If you compare #17, for example. I can only say that I spent one year in the Middle West and really did find the frequent usage of "lovely" in Britain strange at first.
    #25Author maxxpf (361343) 09 Mar 10, 15:17
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    it has occurred to me on different occasions that you seem to find a lot of things strange, maxxpf.
    #26Author dude (253248) 09 Mar 10, 15:23
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    Well, I guess I'm not the only one in this regard. :-)
    #27Author maxxpf (361343) 09 Mar 10, 15:27
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    re #17: I'm often a little suspicious of contributors who speak so authoritatively about other people if not entire peoples:

    "American men don't often use", "An American man will typically use", "An exception might be a man paying his wife a", "Americans tend to"

    Either mikestorer is jetting round the North American continent like crazy or he's a professional in the word business. I would never dare to say things like that except about standard vocabulary features ("boot" vs. "trunk", etc.).
    #28AuthorPhillipp09 Mar 10, 15:32
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    I agree that it is used much more by British men than American men. For straight American men, it is pretty much limited to describing wives and daughters. American gay men use it somewhat more than straight me, at least here in NYC.
    #29AuthorRobNYNY09 Mar 10, 15:36
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    Fun thread. As an American, I absolutely agree with mikestorer. Unfortunately, American men rarely use the word, although it is indeed lovely. :-)
    #30Authorreader09 Mar 10, 15:38
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    I lived in Washington State up till a few months ago, I'm not gay, and it's quite common there.
    #31AuthorDoug09 Mar 10, 15:41
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    P.S.

    I wouldn't say lovely when a guy asks to join him for a beer

    But, like maybe after having a laugh about something, for instance
    #32AuthorDoug09 Mar 10, 15:43
     
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