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    exempli gratia - zum Beispiel

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    exempli gratia - zum Beispiel

    Examples/ definitions with source references
    e.g. (latin) is commonly use in English
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_ph...
    Exempli gratia (e.g.) and id est (i.e.) are commonly confused and misused in colloquial English. The former, exempli gratia, means "for example", and is used before giving examples of something ("I have lots of favorite colors, e.g., blue, green, and hot pink"). The latter, id est, means "that is", and is used before clarifying the meaning of something, when elaborating, specifying, or explaining rather than when giving examples ("I have lots of favorite colors; i.e., I can't decide on just one"). In British style, the stops may be omitted: "I have lots of favourite colours, eg blue, green and hot pink". "I have lots of favourite colours; ie I can't decide on just one"


    http://btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tpv2guides/guide...
    The Latin phrase exempli gratia, meaning "for the sake of example," is abbreviated e.g. and written in lower case with periods, always preceded and often followed by a comma, although the second comma may be omitted. Do not italicize e.g. In a list of examples, avoid using e.g. (or for example or including) in the same sentence with etc., since etc. would be redundant.

    If you wish to bring a domestic animal, e.g. a cat, please let us know in advance.
    The Minister received the representatives of many African countries, e.g. (or including) Angola, Mali, Tanzania, Zaire and Zimbabwe.
    Redundant usage:
    The Minister received the representatives of many African countries, e.g. Angola, Mali, Tanzania, Zaire, Zimbabwe, etc.
    Comment
    e.g. sollte in einem so guten Wörterbuch wie leo verzeichnet sein. Es zwar indirekt unter Abkürzungen zu finden, dürfte aber ob des Ausmaßes seiner Verwendung einen eigenen Eintrag beanspruchen und sollte direkt zu finden.
    Author max_meer (809284) 29 Aug 12, 11:32
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    Ich finde Wörterbucheinträge für e.g., für zum Beispiel und für z. B. Ganz direkt und ohne Probleme. Lediglich die ausgeschriebene Form exempli gratia findet sich nicht als Eintrag im Wörterbuch wieder, das muss sie aber m.E. auch nicht, weil man den Ausdruck a) nie ausgeschrieben sieht und er b) nicht englisch ist.
    #1AuthorDragon (238202) 29 Aug 12, 11:45
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    Die lateinische Phrase findet sich als Erklärung der Abkürzung in Leo:

    for example [abbr.: e.g.] - e.g.: abbr. of Latin "exempli gratia" - zum Beispiel [Abk.: z. B.]

    Das finde ich mehr als ausreichend. Wenn es Belege gibt, dass "exempli gratia" ausgeschrieben in ernstzunehmenden englischen Texten vorkommt, wäre ein eigener Eintrag zu überdenken. Mir ist das allerdings noch nie untergekommen. Wenn man nicht die Abkürzung verwendet, oder in einem gesprochenen Text heißt es m.E. "for example" oder "for instance".
    #2AuthorRE1 (236905) 29 Aug 12, 12:44
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    I can't support this suggestion.

    The Latin expression is used only as an abbreviation; the words 'exempli gratia' are never (or should not ever be) spoken or written out, and 'e.g.' is pronounced as individual letters.

    The same is true of 'id est'; you may learn it as etymology, or use it in your Latin class, but the words themselves are not used in English, only the abbreviation.

    The two sources cited are both poorly written, because they take the Latin phrase as their topic, not the abbreviated expressions actually used in English. Wikipedia can be helpful with vocabulary, but on grammar and usage it's a relatively weak source and often a glaringly poor example, as it is edited by so many non-native speakers.

    It is a little confusing that the existing LEO entry suggests that 'e.g.' is an abbreviation of 'for example,' instead of just giving it its own line. It means 'for example,' but it's not in fact an abbreviation of the words 'for example.' It might be better to split it into two separate entries:

    for example - zum Beispiel
    e.g. [abbr. of Latin "exempli gratia"] - zum Beispiel [Abk.: z. B.]

    I would assume that 'e.g.' is simply an entry in its own right in most English dictionaries.


    #3Authorhm -- us (236141) 29 Aug 12, 18:20
    Context/ examples
    http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/engl....
    e.g. Pronunciation: /iːˈʤiː/

    http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/engl....
    i.e. Pronunciation: /ʌɪˈiː/
    Comment
    Agree with hm. See the OED entry pronunciations.
    #4AuthorAgalinis (714472) 29 Aug 12, 18:35
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    #0 In British style, the stops may be omitted: (eg)

    can you provide some evidence please
    #5Authormikefm (760309) 29 Aug 12, 19:13
     
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