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  • Source Language Term

    Sehr geehrte Frau

    Correct?

    Dear Miss

    Examples/ definitions with source references
    Ist das richtig so?
    Comment
    Dear Miss Babutzu,

    my Name is Anna Müller. Im searching for a work-experience in cape town in financial services or more likely in a bank.
    Entry date should be in the beginning of October 2007 for 3-4 months.
    Im wane know if it is probably possible to find a place for me? And if not, what should I do to start the progress?


    Best wishes from the rainy Germany

    Anna Müller
    AuthorAnna10 Jul 07, 14:41
    Context/ examples
    ups :-8*rotwerd ich meine natürlich "if yes" anstatt "if not"
    Comment
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    #1AuthorAnna10 Jul 07, 14:44
    Comment
    I am looking for some work-experience in Cape Town in the financial services field, and, more specifically in a bank.
    My preferred entry date is early October 2007 and the duration 3-4 months.

    Is such a place available for me? If not, what would you recommend?


    Best wishes from Germany
    #2AuthorD.S.10 Jul 07, 14:57
    Suggestions

    Ms.

    -

    Frau



    Comment
    In a business setting, one never uses "Miss" or "Mrs." unless the person is known to prefer this title.

    Dear Ms. Babutzu:
    My name is ...

    Colon (:) after greeting with a last name.
    My (First word always capitalized)
    name (only proper nouns are capitalized in English)
    three to four (write out all numbers up to and including twelve)
    work experience (no hyphen necessary)
    #3AuthorRupe (AE)10 Jul 07, 16:38
    Comment
    But, Rupe (AE) Ms. is just an abbrevation of Miss! What are you trying to say? Only the abbrevation is acceptable?
    #4AuthorLore10 Jul 07, 16:45
    Comment
    Was sollen uns die Links sagen, Mattes? Eine Antwort auf Lores Frage (Abkürzung oder nicht) enthalten sie ja nicht.
    #6AuthorM-A-Z (306843) 10 Jul 07, 17:04
    Comment
    Lores Frage war
    >What are you trying to say? Only the abbrevation is acceptable?
    Die Links sagen: Ja.
    #7AuthorMattes (236368) 10 Jul 07, 17:05
    Comment
    Ms. is NOT an abbreviation of Miss!

    Miss = Single woman
    Mrs. = Married woman
    Ms. = Marital status not specified (can be either married or unmarried)

    As stated earlier, if you're not absolutely certain if the woman is married or what her preference is, use Ms. It's neutral.
    #8AuthorNicole <AE> (236963) 10 Jul 07, 17:19
    Comment
    What does the abbreviation Ms. then stand for, Nicole?
    #9AuthorLore10 Jul 07, 18:30
    Comment
    Ms is NOT an abbreviation - hence no '.'

    ...if you read some of the linked discussions, you would find the answer to your questions (that's what the links 'want to tell us')
    #10Authorbike_helmut (82341) 10 Jul 07, 18:51
    Comment
    As I said Lore, it is NOT an abbreviation, which means it's not short for anything, doesn't stand for anything, etc. It's a neutral, third form of address and entirely different from Miss and Mrs.

    And bike_helmut: it does have an period in American English, just as Mrs. does. It's British English that uses "Mrs" and "Ms" (no period).
    #11AuthorNicole <AE> (236963) 11 Jul 07, 17:44
    Comment
    Nicole: yes, I realize that AE convention seems to be Ms with a period, even though it's not an abbreviation - I just can't bring myself to do it - it just feels wrong.
    Anyway, I guess it's more of a personal preference and I shouldn't have made it sound like a general rule.
    #12Authorbike_helmut (82341) 11 Jul 07, 18:33
    Comment
    "Ms." is actually a made-up word, so I wouldn't argue the grammar of it too much. It was invented in the 60's or 70's from the women's liberation movement. Women fought having to be labelled by their marital status (Miss or Mrs.) when men didn't have such a distinction. So they came up with Ms. (pronounced "mizz"). Today it is the norm in business correspondence.
    #13AuthorBill (US) (236753) 11 Jul 07, 19:39
    Comment
    Would you adress a female co-worker in spoken English as "MIZZ" as well, or does that sound as artifical als "Studierende" (euphemism for "Studenten" which is labelled "sexist" by feminists)?
    #14AuthorGerhard12 Jul 07, 08:29
    Comment
    No, you would address all co-workers by their first names.

    Yes, you would address a female client, high-level boss or any business contact you do not know well as Ms., unless you know that she prefers Mrs., Miss, or Dr.

    It will not sound strange unless the "z" is not clearly pronounced. It should not sound like the "s" of "Miss".
    #15AuthorEmily P.12 Jul 07, 09:02
    Comment
    So, a "German" pronunciation would expose you to the risk of putting your foot in it! Good to know!
    #16Authords12 Jul 07, 09:11
     
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