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    Translation correct?

    consequences on? - consequences for?

    Source Language Term

    consequences on?

    Correct?

    consequences for?

    Examples/ definitions with source references
    (excluding the poor) will have negative consequences on their long-term interests.

    (their = the industrialized nations)
    Comment
    Is consequences "on" correct?
    Authorratlos08 May 08, 23:48
    Comment
    "on" works fine, but you need to make certain whose long-term interests are meant, the poor or the industrialized nations?

    I would, however, write ". . . negative consequences for them", i.e. the people, whether the poor or the industrialized nations (personified).
    #1AuthorRobert -- US (unplugged)08 May 08, 23:58
    Comment
    "Consequences for" is correct, but not "consequences on". You could say "a negative effect on", though.
    #2AuthorSaskia09 May 08, 00:18
    Comment
    Thank you both, but who is right?
    #3Authorimmer noch ratlos09 May 08, 00:22
    Comment
    I agree with Saskia. "Consequences for" is certainly correct, but I wouldn't use "consequences on."
    #4Authordude09 May 08, 00:25
    Comment
    To refine my answer a bit:

    I would be more likely to write ". . . consequences on their [=the poor's] long-term interests" and ". . . consequences for their [=the industrialized nations'] long-term interests."

    From the Department of Linguistics, MacQuarie University, Sydney, Australia: "It is becoming increasingly clear, however, that this laissez-faire approach has had deep negative consequences on a whole generation of students and teachers."
    http://www.ling.mq.edu.au/centres/sc/june1995.htm

    A Google search of "consequences on" gives 1,850,000 hits. While certainly not a guarantee of accuracy, it does show usage.

    From msn.encarta: "It is clear that the killing of the albatross brings dire consequences on the mariner."
    http://uk.encarta.msn.com/sidebar_701610967/%...

    From the Journal of International Business Studies: "What are the necessary changes that might be needed to accommodate and deal with some of the destabilizing consequences on well established social and cultural practices?"
    http://www.palgrave-journals.com/jibs/asia_an...

    From the Graduate School of the University of Louisville, "Guidelines for the Preparation and Processing of Dissertations": "And Chapter Four links writing assessment as social change to ethical inquiry, arguing that vigorous inquiry into
    the validity of writing assessments— including their social consequences on individuals and writing programs—is imperative research to conduct, as it is a means of reflecting upon and changing the course of writing assessment."
    graduate.louisville.edu/pubs/theses-dissertations/dissertation.pdf

    I hope this helps you decide.
    #5AuthorRobert -- US (unplugged)09 May 08, 00:42
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    I'm in the "consequences for" camp or would say instead "impact/effect on". There may well be nearly 2 million google hits for "consequences on", but bear in mind that there are nearly 8 million hits for "consequences for":
    http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22con...
    #6AuthorAnne(gb) (236994) 09 May 08, 00:56
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    Perhaps this reflects a difference between BE and AE/Australian E usage.
    #7AuthorSaskia09 May 08, 01:04
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    @Anne(gb): I'm not exclusionary on this one. (-:

    Yes, "consequences for" is correct, and apparently more common. I'm just arguing that "consequences on" isn't wrong, contra Saskia. Nor did I rely solely on the number of hits from Google, although I mentioned it. I also referenced 1) Linguistics Department of a university; 2) online encyclopedia article (encarta); 3) an online journal (business) 4) Style Manual for the Graduate Department of a university. I figured they represented not just "Joe Blow" but relatively educated sources, especially the two universities. After all, if you are writing a Style Manual for theses or an article about grammar for a journal called "Australian Style" it behooves you to use accepted grammar and forms.
    #8AuthorRobert -- US (unplugged)09 May 08, 01:12
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    @Saskia #7: Could be. All my examples come from American or Australian sources (including the International Journal of Business Studies).
    #9AuthorRobert -- US (unplugged)09 May 08, 01:17
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    consequences for and on



    Comment
    Thank you very much! :-)
    #10Authornicht mehr ratlos09 May 08, 01:45
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    Robert--US: Yes, "consequences for" is correct, and apparently more common. I'm just arguing that "consequences on" isn't wrong.
    I appreciate that, but I just felt that citing Google hits for the expression "consequences on" alone did not give a balanced picture of actual usage, which is overwhelmingly in favour of "consequences for", no matter how erudite the source. Compare the phrases "consequences on" and "consequences for" on .edu or .ac.uk sites.
    #11AuthorAnne(gb) (236994) 09 May 08, 02:10
     
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